Three Good Reasons Why Saddam is responsible for 9/11

Vanity | March 10, 2003 | A_perfect_lady

[A_perfect_lady]

I've been thinking about what to say to those who insist that the War on Terrorism and the war with Iraq are separate, that we have no reason to attack Iraq, and that Saddam has nothing to do with 9/11. I am working on rebuttal remarks and I hope Freepers will offer whatever additional thoughts they think relevant.

According to Peter Bergen's Holy War, Inc: Inside the Secret World of Osama bin Laden , Osama bin Laden's hatred of the USA stems from three main sources.

1) We have troops in Saudi Arabia.

2) We have enacted sanctions against Iraq.

3) We have supported Israel, who has not yet created a Palestinian state (and who can blame them, but that's another issue.)

All three of these issues are directly traceable to Saddam Hussein.

Why do we have troops in Saudi Arabia? Because Saddam invaded Kuwait, demonstrably was a danger to Saudi Arabia, and they wanted us there. If Saddam were no longer in power, we would have much less reason to be in Saudi Arabia.

Why did we enact sanctions against Iraq? We all know the answer to that as well: Saddam. Take away Saddam and those sanctions will vanish like puffs of smoke. (I mean, they will be completely gone as opposed to the ripped wet kleenex they resemble now, thanks to the Frankensteins [French & Germans]).

Why does Israel not create a Palestinian state (aside from "not wanting to be obliterated")? Because they have made it clear that until the terrorism and homicide bombings stop, there will be no state. Who funds this continuing terrorism? Well, Saddam funds quite a bit of it, and no one denies this. Not even Sean Penn.

Ergo, the attacks of 9/11 are directly traceable to policies and situations rendered necessary by the presence of Saddam Hussein.

[A_perfect_lady]

What do you think, Freepers? None of this info is new but I haven't seen anyone else lay it out this way. Of course, I only spend 10 hours on Free Republic a day, a lot can happen in those other 14 hours! (-:

[A_perfect_lady]

Ping?

[A_perfect_lady]

Thoughts?

[lmr]

A good take on the situation. I find the evidence of a shell of a jetliner in the middle of the iraqi desert in an area known as Salman Pak in which iraqi's were training jihadi's to hijack planes using small knives before 911 to be very creepy. My wife doesn't overanalyze things like I do, nor does she read as much information as I do, but she says 9-11 would never have happened were it not for the gulf war, I would describe her as your girl-next-door soccer mom type, like many others. I think more people 'get it' than the media would like to acknowledge. I think analysts and FReepers tend to overanalyze. It's really simple. The Media and the UN just complicated the damn thing.

[Cacophonous]

I think we need to re-examine our foreign policy.

[Cacophonous]

I think we need to re-examine our foreign policy.

[Radix]

You have come to inquire about the root of things!

The regular Media would have you think that Iraq is just another Nation that wants to get along!

Iraq is a vile and evil place where ordinary persons suffer daily.

In a different reality we might live in a place just like that!

http://www.teesdale.com/global/global.html

America is the greatest thing that has ever happened on this Planet!

I hope that you like my link!

[JustSayNoNWO]

Of course anyone with any sense can figure out that there is a direct connection with Osama,Hussein,Hamas, the Saudi's,...etc....You did very well in putting together the words in "black & white".

If anything, thank you for reminding everyone about something that should never be forgotten.

The sad thing is that the American people that should read this never will...."Their minds are already made up, don't confuse them with the facts".

As a "newbie" among freepers myself(but always writing my representatives and publications).....thanks again.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

I think a better question is, "are we willing to let Saddam be responsible for the next 9/11 that uses WMD's instead of 757's"?

[A_perfect_lady]

I think more people 'get it' than the media would like to acknowledge.

Yes, you're right. I'm trying to think of 1-2 punches for those who refuse to get it. I want to be able to leave anti-war protestors with their signs sagging, their mouths hanging open, and a light bulb coming on over their heads.

Well, I can dream, can't I?

[A_perfect_lady]

pey like to argue "he's been contained for 12 years, we can keep doing it." I want to point out that even if it's true, Saddam contained is still a big problem. Indeed, his "containment" is one of the things that provoked Al Qaeda to attack us.

[thoughtomator]

I think you're on the right track, somewhat... Iraq probably isn't directly responsible for 9/11, but you should read this -> http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2002/09/Whoisourenemy.shtml

[ricpic]

In the 19th century, when the Brits had an empire on which the sun never set, the Bin Laden's of that time hated them with the same irrational passion with which they hate us today. The difference was that lethal technology was not available to third world hotheads back then.
It may very well be that Bin Laden hates us for the reasons you list. But at bottom, we are dealing with the same seething resentment that the British faced over a hundred years ago. People living in futureless squalor, knowing in their heart of hearts that the thing that would get them out of their condition not to be found in their own culture, unwilling to make the changes offered them by western culture (symbolized by the US), and so turning on that culture with a ferocity born of self-loathing despair.
There is no dealing with such people other than to make it abundantly clear to them that any attack on us will be repaid ten times over.

[TADSLOS]

I'm certain that we will find irrefutable evidence linking Saddam to the 9-11 attacks in the coming weeks that will include his personal knwledge and support of the planning, training, funding, and logistical supporting of Al Qaeda in executing their operation. I'm convinced that President Bush has had enough evidence of this since 9-11 and it has been the driving force that has put the rush on disarming Saddam and taking him out of power. GW knows that Saddam has done it once and will do it again on an even grander and more diabolical scale. Al Qaeda is Saddam's ally of convenience who he considers an additional tool in his war with the U.S. He has attacked us indirectly by proxy and will continue to do so because he knows we're too strong for him to take us on in a conventional manner. He sees the U.S. as incapable of accepting large losses of its citizens to war and or terrorism and he is calculating that if enough attacks are taken, we will shrink away and leave him to his own devises in the region. He, has miscalculated again, of course.

GW knows that time is not on our side. Saddam has to go. He's the strongman kingpin with the resources, especially WMD. Bin Laden is the enigmatic, prophetic one. They both feed off each other.

The Palestinians will lose a major benefactor, there's no doubt, but they won't go peacefully into the night after Saddam's gone, either. In fact, we should expect an increase in terror in Israel during, and for a time, after we take down Saddam.

We've had troops and trainers in Saudi for quite some time, well before Desert Shield, in fact. This bothered Bin Laden and other Islamic fundamentalists, since we are considered infidels infecting one of the holiest regions of Islam. Saddam miscalculated by invading Kuwait. We flooded the place with troops to kick him out, enraging fundamentalists further and allowing Saddam to establish new alliances against a common foe(us)after the war.

[MHGinTN]

I think your clear and lucid points would be lost on the left's obstructionist appeaseniks. What they keep demanding is 'proof', so your clear proof of the correlation would be unacceptable in its finality! [BTW, I love this ... the Frankensteins [French & Germans]. So appropriate!]

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Q. Did "containment" work in North Korea?

A. No.

Q. How do you know that "contaiment" worked in Iraq?

A. We won't know until Iraq is liberated and the full extent of the regime's WMD program is known (this won't work with Hans Blix fans).

A. If "containment worked" in Iraq, why did the UN Security Council vote 15-0 to insist on continued forced inspections?

[texson66]

My wife doesn't overanalyze things like I do, nor does she read as much information as I do, but she says 9-11 would never have happened were it not for the gulf war,

It would have happened even if the US had "finished" the war in the first place! Islamists always want to get even, one way or another. With Klintoon as Prez, even he might have guessed that Iraq was out to get back at the US by way of terrorism...after all, the 93 WTC attack SHOULD have been a darn BIG clue..but WJC was keeping a breast of other things!

[Radix]

Well said.

Ty!

We are in one accord!

[A_perfect_lady]

There is no dealing with such people other than to make it abundantly clear to them that any attack on us will be repaid ten times over.

I agree 100%. But I'm trying to come up with things that our own little 5th column can't refute. They dismiss everything you said out of hand and there's no reasoning with them. I'm trying to come up with things that they can't simply dismiss. If OBL says these are his reasons (even if you and I know darn well they aren't) they have to deal with that. And as you know, they believe everything they hear... unless it comes out of a Republican's mouth.

[mr.pink]

..but she says 9-11 would never have happened were it not for the gulf war,...

I see it as more a result of a mishandling of the post Gulf War, than the Gulf War itself.

Bush 1 being defeated cost us a lot of goodwill and cooperation in that region. I didn't realize it at the time. Such a clumsy president media-wise, but he sure seemed able to cultivate friendships and inspire trust.

So we get 8 years of stoking hostility while cottage cheese ass was more interested in having the chubby chick polish his nob didn't help matters. We were all very busy having too good a time being swindled in the market.

The same folks who made throwing Bush 1 overboard a priority are setting up B2 to meet the same fate....post war of course . They're getting impatient as this war is way past their schedule.

I hope when we're done with the "foreign" part of the "all enemies foreign and domestic" schtick, we'll finally get around to the "domestic" part of that equation.

God Bless the President and God Bless our troops.