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French aircraft carrier heads home
BBC News ^ | 02/17/2003

Posted on 02/17/2003 3:04:47 PM PST by dighton

The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle is returning to France next week, say French officials, apparently scotching suggestions that it might be heading for the Gulf.

The vessel set sail on 4 February from its Mediterranean home port of Toulon, amid speculation that its final destination might be the Gulf.

Officially the vessel was heading for exercises off Crete, but some military analysts believed that it would subsequently join the build-up of military forces in the Gulf.

However, a senior French naval spokesman said on Monday there was “no question” of the Charles de Gaulle going to the Gulf.

“As planned, we will leave Crete again on 21 February and we should arrive back in Toulon on 25 February,” said Lieutenant Commander Bertrand Bonneau of the Charles de Gaulle battle group.

“There is no question at all of us going to the Gulf,” he told the French news agency AFP.

France has been leading European resistance to an early conflict with Iraq, but has been expected to eventually back a war if it believes all diplomatic routes have been exhausted.

Its confirmation that the Charles de Gaulle was returning home appeared to suggest that even in the medium future, it saw no place for conflict.

“I assumed the Charles de Gaulle would steam on to the Gulf,” said Ewan Southby-Tailyour, editor of Jane’s Amphibious and Special Forces.

“I think the statement about it returning home might be just “today’s statement”.

“It is almost certainly directed at the Americans, to try to add credence to their political statement in the UN Security Council.

“They are trying to show the US they really don’t believe we should be going to war yet.”

The French Government had not confirmed speculation that the Crete exercises would lead on to a Gulf deployment, but the Defence Ministry had stressed that the Charles de Gaulle was set for any mission.

“When a ship sails, it goes battle-ready - in terms of its crew, its weaponry and its aircraft, in times of peace or crisis,” said spokesman Christophe Prazuck at the time the vessel set sail.

“A ship like the Charles de Gaulle is not half-operation, or giving an illusion of being operational. It is totally operational.”

The Charles de Gaulle’s three weeks of exercises have included some with a US aircraft carrier, the Harry S Truman, deployed in the Mediterranean ahead of a possible war.

The exercises have taken place between Sicily and Crete, with the Charles de Gaulle based at Souda Bay on Crete, about 250 kilometres (150 miles) south of Athens.

Fighting power

If, as analysts suspect, the Charles de Gaulle eventually turns round once again and sails back towards the Gulf, it will take around two days’ extra sailing to get back to the eastern Mediterranean.

From there - or from closer to the Gulf - the French vessel could be used to deploy French aircraft to join any war on Iraq.

Around 40 aircraft are on board, including fighter jets and reconnaissance planes.

The nuclear-powered Charles de Gaulle has been beset by technical problems over the years, but is a potent symbol of French military power.

It returned in July 2002 from a seven-month mission in the Indian Ocean as part of the war against terror.

Although France is still strongly backing extended weapons inspections, it sees war as a last resort, and is thought to fear being sidelined militarily if war does finally come.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; lebateaumaudit; shipmovement
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1 posted on 02/17/2003 3:04:47 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
Probably forgot to wind it up ...
2 posted on 02/17/2003 3:05:18 PM PST by strela (Magog Brothers Atlantis Carpet Reclaimers)
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To: dighton
Must have gotten low on wine and cheese (but still plenty of whine).
3 posted on 02/17/2003 3:06:48 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: strela
Practicing surrendering?
4 posted on 02/17/2003 3:08:21 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: dighton
Didn't the CDG lose a screw while underway recently?
5 posted on 02/17/2003 3:08:26 PM PST by Riley
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To: dighton
could be used to deploy French aircraft to join any war on Iraq.

Question is - on which side?

6 posted on 02/17/2003 3:09:02 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (I've made money on the internet and you can too! Call me at 1-900-555-1212 for helpful tips!)
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To: dighton
I think the're not heading to the Gulf because they know the Iraqi's can out surrender them, and the French don't want to look bad at one of the few things the're world class at.
7 posted on 02/17/2003 3:10:32 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: dighton
They are French. They were undoubtedly afraid of getting too close to potential hostilities. They weren't sure they had a white flag big enough for a ship that size.
8 posted on 02/17/2003 3:10:43 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (HHE)
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To: dighton
Merde! And thees propellor was supposed to ave a one year guantee!
9 posted on 02/17/2003 3:10:55 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Normal4me
There is of course no truth to the rumor that French sailors must be over 6 feet tall to enlist. That way, they can walk home when their ship sinks.
10 posted on 02/17/2003 3:11:05 PM PST by strela (Magog Brothers Atlantis Carpet Reclaimers)
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To: dighton
Probably running low on coal.
11 posted on 02/17/2003 3:11:28 PM PST by greydog
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To: dighton
From there - or from closer to the Gulf - the French vessel could be used to deploy French aircraft the French airplane to join any war on surrender to Iraq.
12 posted on 02/17/2003 3:12:30 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: dighton
Haha...

The article comes off like "Awe man, the French arent gonna play".

I say go the hell home and dont come back! Punk!

Haha...my earnest prayer is that the French arent "given" a place in this fight. I am not concerned with what they want...I dont want us to "give" them a spot on the team.

13 posted on 02/17/2003 3:12:52 PM PST by VaBthang4 (c)
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To: Riley; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart
Didn't the CDG lose a screw while underway recently?

As the article says, "a potent symbol of French military power."

;-)

14 posted on 02/17/2003 3:12:57 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
The U.S. Navy has "vessels."

The French Navy has "weassels."
15 posted on 02/17/2003 3:13:24 PM PST by martin_fierro (oh, did I say that out loud?)
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To: dighton
Ahh, those wacky french, and their dinghys.
16 posted on 02/17/2003 3:13:34 PM PST by widgysoft (< Woo and Yay! >)
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To: dighton
The French are retreating, having realized they are out-manned in the Gulf.
17 posted on 02/17/2003 3:13:58 PM PST by balls
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To: dighton
A more fundamental question is:

Why does France even have an aircraft carrier?
18 posted on 02/17/2003 3:14:11 PM PST by aquitaine
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To: dighton
Well when the war gets going and the French roll over for Iraqi....I hope Tony Blair does a Churchill and sinks the damm French Navy again.... lest in fall in enemy hands
19 posted on 02/17/2003 3:14:40 PM PST by tophat9000
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To: dighton
I think a midnight mission is in order... A couple decent sized paint ballons filled with yellow should suffice...

SR

20 posted on 02/17/2003 3:14:47 PM PST by sit-rep
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