[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

HUH?

The PUC is screwing up what they want to encourage for petes sake!!!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[NormsRevenge]

Unbelievable!

..a plan to impose fees on all solar generation statewide. The proposed fees, which the state Public Utilities Commission is expected to vote on later this month, are intended to help cover the billions of dollars California spent trying to avoid rolling blackouts during the past few years.

The Davi$ Depression Legacy :-\

[Myrddin]

The good news is that this stuff is portable. Offended Californians can put the gear on the truck with the rest of their personal effects on the way to a more reasonable state.

[First_Salute]

By right of fairness, I claim 50% of all the assets, and none of the debts, of the administrative law judge; that judge must share my burdens.

[First_Salute]

headlines:

Democrats claim authority to redistribute solar energy

[tubebender]

That's why state regulators are looking at imposing between 2 cents and 5 cents per kilowatt hour in fees for anyone with an off-grid system,

5 cents a kilowatt is about half of what big users pay for electricity isn't it ? I don't have my PG&E bill in front of me but I think we pay about 13 cents for peak use and 9 cents for off peak here at home. I'll find out in the morning.

[The Electrician]

Are those who now switch to solar passing along their share of the burden to others? That's what an administrative law judge concluded recently and what state regulators will be deciding on in coming weeks.

This is very telling - the guiding "principle" to these statists is that there should be no possible means of escape for anybody - in other words, bringing the Berlin Wall approach to a state government near you. We have already seen that mindset in many other guises - in the punitive regulations hastily enacted to punish corporations incorporating offshore, in the imposition of the Alternative Minimum Tax that each year ensnares more and more innocent taxpayers, etc. etc.

[Orange1998]

Next is probably "AIR".

[Skybird]

And now, they wanna TAX the sun (or at least the power privately derived from it). Only in Kalifornia...

[Centurion2000]

That's why state regulators are looking at imposing between 2 cents and 5 cents per kilowatt hour in fees for anyone with an off-grid system

There's the line in the sand.

[nightdriver]

"That's why state regulators are looking at imposing between 2 cents and 5 cents per kilowatt hour in fees for anyone with an off-grid system, which makes sense for big, industrial diesel setups but would cast a dark cloud over solar."

No, I'm sorry, but it doesn't make sense at all.

This means that the state of Calipooia is going to tax all co-generation. Nice move, you idiots!

[DoughtyOne]

Leave it to the leftists. I'm surprised they don't install some meter so they could tax the blood our hearts pump. To the guillotine!

[galt-jw]

just move to china and get it over with. a nice quake would solve lots of trouble.

[Dog Gone]

This is simply amazing.

[Grampa Dave]

Hey the Lunatic Libs in Kalifornicators legislature wants to tack an extra tax/fee on Pampers and other disposbable diapers.

Supposedly this is to help the land fills.

We know that it is just another attempt to tax everything we use and passes through us by the tax and spend rats.

[daviddennis]

Do either of you know what the actual cost per killowatt is to pay off the power bonds? The amounts being discussed seem punitive to the point of absurdity.

What percentage of California residents can afford to set up solar panels or even diesel co-generation? It seems to me that we should be encouraging both in view of the power crisis, as long as (in the case of diesel generators) the environmental impacts can be handled.

I woud think the number of people and companies going off-grid would be insignificant compared to the money needed. Rate payers would be paying a few cents extra a year if we left these people alone, but they'd be paying a lot more to enforce this silly law.

This also has invasiveness issues. Maybe you don't have much need for privacy in the amount of power you generate, but there's something offensive about having a State-provided power monitor in your home. And if this is really a $16/month fee, and the power monitor costs a few hundred bucks, they're never going to get their money back.

How stupid is that?

I can see their concern if a lot of high-usage businesses go off the grid, even though they should be encouraging this if they want to prevent another power crisis in the future. But if they insist on taking this short-sighted point of view, they should create a simple loophole: Use under a megawatt a year, forget it, the tax is not worth collecting. Otherwise, they spend absurdy more than they receive. Words fail me when describing their stupidity.

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[Lancey Howard]

John Nelson, a spokesman for Pacific Gas and Electric Co., said the utility is sympathetic to the plight of solar users but believes all Californians should be responsible for the state's electricity costs. "It's about paying your fair share," he said. "Exit fees are designed to protect all the other customers who can't afford to put solar on their roof."

HAHAHAAaa!! Spoken like a true socialist Democrat.
John Nelson.... what a scumbag!

[First_Salute]

California should pay the salt tax and snow plow tax for Ohio, because it's unfair that Ohio has snow while California doesn't.

[ChadGore]

Wait just a damn second. wet-wetting environs want to take MY MONEY (in for form of a subsidy to users of solar power) to get people to use something they'll be taxed for ? ?!?

Let me get this straight: A) I earn My Money.
B) I give my money to the government (taxes).
C) The government gives my money to Mr. and Mrs. Sheeaugoo (Prounced "ShareAYugo":)when they buy a solar heating system.
D) The goverment takes back the subsidy in the form of a tax, thus leaving Mr. and Mrs. 'ShareAYugo' with a solar heating system they have to give up money to operate, and pissing them off enough that want to RAISE the subsidy on solar power, thus creating, yet another, new and crative way for liberals to spend my money.

Will liberals never cease ?

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is why Dems like the death tax. It's unfair to leave the tax burden to others by dying. Hehe.