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Social costs of smoking are triple those of illicit drugs (Junk Science & Barf Alert)
British Medical Journal ^ | 2/1/03 | Christopher Zinn Sydney

Posted on 02/01/2003 6:58:57 PM PST by qam1

BMJ 2003;326:242 ( 1 February )

News roundup

Social costs of smoking are triple those of illicit drugs

Christopher Zinn Sydney

The financial impact of tobacco and alcohol far outweigh the impact of illicit drugs, with smoking costing the community almost three times as much as any other category of drug, according to a study on the social costs of drug use in Australia.

The report, produced for the federal government’s national drug strategy, estimates that tobacco accounted for 61.2% of the costs to society of drugs, or $A21bn (£7.6bn; $12.4bn; €11.5bn). For the first time the cost calculations included an estimate of the impact of passive smoking and newly available data to assess the effect on the Australian population of absenteeism, drugs, ambulances, fires, crime, and even litter.

Alcohol accounted for 22% of total costs ($A7.5bn) and illegal drugs for 17% ($A6.0bn). The calculations for the survey period, 1998-9, included both tangible and intangible costs to individuals, companies, and governments. Tangible costs included hospital care, road crashes, loss of productivity and tax revenue, and increased crime and policing. The intangible costs included pain and suffering.

The methods used in this report, the third of its kind, differed so much from the previous reports as to preclude comparisons. Long lists of conditions associated with different types of drug use—such as hypertension (associated with alcohol), ischaemic heart disease (smoking), and low birth weight (cocaine)—were compiled. The authors found it impossible to estimate the costs of the misuse of prescribed pharmaceuticals.

One of the authors, David Collins, a professor in economics at Sydney’s Macquarie University, said the report had, for the first time, measured the cost of passive smoking, assessing it at A$47m. Fires resulting from cigarettes were estimated to cost A$81m.

"A lot of the impact of . . . involuntary smoking is on the unborn child and on children under 14 years. It hits the young very hard because they have no control over their lives," he told the Sydney Morning Herald (21 Jan). "Tobacco is still the greatest killer by far and imposes the greatest costs."

The report said the costs were all net costs and, consistent with previous studies, were estimated conservatively. Lower cost alternatives were selected when there was a choice.

Cannabis, opiates, stimulants, hallucinogens, and anabolic steroids were listed as illicit drugs.

Alcohol was found to have prevented more deaths than it caused because of the beneficial effects of moderate consumption. In the survey period 4286 people reportedly died because of alcohol but 7029 deaths were avoided.

Drug agencies said that they had been aware that tobacco and alcohol were responsible for more problems than were illicit drugs, but they added that the report would show the general public how legal drugs had much more impact.

Professor Collins said the report showed that the costs of drug use are so high that the benefits from even a small reduction in consumption could be large.

"Antitobacco programmes yield very high rates of return, and the same is true for illicit drugs," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: austrailia; authordrankbongwater; cigarettes; junkscience; pufflist; smoking; wodlist
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To: wayoverontheright
the conclusions of this study just defy logic to me.

That never stopped the mainstream media from reporting it word for word or politicians using Junk Science such as this for justification for raising taxes or passing prohibition type laws.

41 posted on 02/02/2003 10:09:51 AM PST by qam1
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To: qam1
That never stopped the mainstream media from reporting it word for word or politicians using Junk Science such as this for justification for raising taxes or passing prohibition type laws.

You've got that right and the biggest reason is MONEY. they have lots of it to spend on high profile advertising and "get out the word" campaigns.

42 posted on 02/02/2003 10:45:27 AM PST by Gabz (Anti-smokers speak with forked tongues.)
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To: qam1
#36...... Well done, thank you.
43 posted on 02/02/2003 11:03:08 AM PST by Great Dane
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To: mrfixit514
I am a smoker too, and I think last time I looked, it was not illegal to be one. I do know that certain types are trying to take that freedom from me however, and pretending it is for my own good.
44 posted on 02/02/2003 11:05:38 AM PST by ladyinred
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To: Myrddin
My father-in-law enjoyed that legal commodity and copious volumes of alcohol too. Diabetes, cirrhosis of the liver, emphysema and ultimately congestive heart failure just before breakfast one morning. Room temperature at age 53. My wife's grandmother took an early exit with emphysema from the same legal commodity. Room temperature at age 58. Good stuff.


Non smokers die in mass everyday in their teens, 20,30's.
What's your point?
A kid wrapping a car around a tree wasn't a preventable cause of death? Should we raise the minimum driving age up to 30?
When will you extremists come to terms with the fact that you will still die. Maybe young. Even if you don't smoke.
This spew of preventable deaths is hysterical.
I wonder how many of the 3000 that died on 9/11 just quit
smoking a few days before, because you told them quitting would prevent their death..
Idiot.
45 posted on 02/02/2003 1:41:19 PM PST by Bogey
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To: Myrddin
Sounds like inferior genes to me!
46 posted on 02/02/2003 1:45:05 PM PST by Mears
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To: qam1; SheLion; Gabz
So basically if you die or get sick and you smoke, The smoking caused it and it cost society.

Hmmmmm... SO can we turn that around, and say that if you DON'T smoke and get anal cancer, that NOT smoking caused it?

Geezus. Calling this dreck "junk science" is a slam on the field of junk science.

PUFF

47 posted on 02/02/2003 1:49:37 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: qam1
Lucky Strike Bump!
48 posted on 02/02/2003 2:12:09 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: maxwell
Hmmmmm... SO can we turn that around, and say that if you DON'T smoke and get anal cancer, that NOT smoking caused it?

I think you're on to something here.............

49 posted on 02/02/2003 3:18:19 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smokers speak with forked tongues.)
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To: Gabz
I think you're on to something here.............

Bwaha, it takes a Ph.D. in physics... ;)

50 posted on 02/02/2003 3:25:40 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: maxwell
Hmmmmm... SO can we turn that around, and say that if you DON'T smoke and get anal cancer, that NOT smoking caused it?

Unfortunately the Anti-smoking Nazis have that covered. If you don't smoke and get anal cancer of course it was Second hand smoke that caused you to get anal cancer.

51 posted on 02/02/2003 3:39:49 PM PST by qam1
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To: qam1
I wasn't trying to justify any laws to take away your freedom. Perhaps Maine Rebel or SheLion can explain it to you.
52 posted on 02/02/2003 6:33:34 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin; SheLion
I cannot believe you said that.

You are the lowest form of life.
53 posted on 02/02/2003 7:56:53 PM PST by Max McGarrity (Anti-smokers--still the bullies in the playground they always were.)
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To: Myrddin; Max McGarrity
Perhaps Maine Rebel or SheLion can explain it to you.

Let me bring you up to date: Maine Rebel passed away on the 13th of January. You will have to deal with "me" now.

54 posted on 02/02/2003 8:33:47 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Myrddin
There is probably a genetic component that predisposes some individuals to develop cancer or heart disease as a consequence of smoking. Until you can definitively tell an individual that he or she has no such predisposition, it is irresponsible to advocate that smoking is unconditionally safe.

It's LEGAL. Which makes it none of your business WHO buys and smokes it!

55 posted on 02/02/2003 8:36:22 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Myrddin
Perhaps Maine Rebel or SheLion can explain it to you.

You truly are disgusting.

56 posted on 02/02/2003 8:37:49 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: Myrddin
How DARE you.......................
57 posted on 02/02/2003 8:38:26 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smokers speak with forked tongues.)
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To: wayoverontheright
I am not a smoker, the conclusions of this study just defy logic to me.

Well, if all that junk science about smoking and second hand smoke were really really true........why is it still a legal commodity, after hundreds of years? Where's the logic in THAT?

58 posted on 02/02/2003 8:40:54 PM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
My apologies to you personally for referencing the recent loss of your husband. The loss of my family members to smoking related illness was counted as simply another insignificant anecdote.
59 posted on 02/02/2003 9:14:09 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: SheLion; Max McGarrity; Great Dane; Myrddin
Which makes it none of your business WHO buys and smokes it!

It seems our "FRiend" Myrddin is no different than the rest of the anti's here.

they seem to be in 3 categories:

1. hit and run (make a nasty comment and refuse to answer)
2. ad hominem attacks at smokers (low lifes, addicts, child abusers, etc.)
3. parrots (repeat all the appropriate phrases from the paid press releases of the antis)

60 posted on 02/02/2003 9:17:41 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smokers speak with forked tongues.)
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