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Columbia Discussion thread
Feb 1, 2003

Posted on 02/01/2003 8:41:00 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/01/2003 9:11:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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On behalf of posters on Free Republic, I post this with deepest sympathy for the crew and their families.

Mission - sts107


This is a continuation of the original thread.

Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!

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TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: columbia; columbiatragedy; feb12003; india; israel; nasa; shuttle; spaceshuttle; sts107; unitedstates
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To: CyberAnt
No problem -- it was a no brainer about terrorism not coming from the ground -- too high up!
1,101 posted on 02/01/2003 6:02:53 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: TEXOKIE
That was a lovely prayer. My late Mother, and my three brothers all live in the Clear Lake, Nassa Bay area and know many people who work at the Space Center.
I've been praying each day for a safe journey for my son, who is traveling around Australia and New Zealand.
When I saw the news this morning, I thought of all those families who, I'm sure, had been praying for the safe return of their loved ones. I feel so sad, as all of you do.
1,102 posted on 02/01/2003 6:12:05 PM PST by potlatch (BUSH "ROCKS"!!!)
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To: hole_n_one; Tennessee_Bob
Thats the skirt of a PW RL-10, i believe. The type I worked on at PW and is still made there in WPB. This was not an engine failure. Burned up on re-entry, IMO.
1,103 posted on 02/01/2003 6:18:43 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (God Bless President Bush)
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To: Howlin; Tennessee_Bob
click here http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/nasatv/index.html
1,104 posted on 02/01/2003 6:21:25 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (God Bless President Bush)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Hey Buddy, Im sorry for all the Florida residents today who did not get to see their Eagle Come Home........
1,105 posted on 02/01/2003 6:23:17 PM PST by cmsgop ( Arby's says no more Horsey Sauce for Scott Ritter !!!!)
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To: All
"If we die, we want people to accept it. We're in a risky business, and we hope that if anything happens to us it will not delay the program. The conquest of space is worth the risk of life."

- Gus Grissom, Commander, Apollo 1, speaking a few weeks before his death in the Apollo 1 fire.


1,106 posted on 02/01/2003 6:25:37 PM PST by Semper911
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To: cmsgop
Well, I have been on the road all day and just got back from Titusville, was hoping to watch it land. The mood is very somber in the entire city.
1,107 posted on 02/01/2003 6:30:06 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (God Bless President Bush)
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To: TEXOKIE
Amen, TEXOKIE

I haven't looked at your personal page but are you a priest/preacher by any chance? (Guess I could go take a look but I'm using this as a bump to the thread.)

You compose the greatest prayers. I've noticed that on other FR prayer threads and now this one. Well done and Amen.

God Bless the crew and their families
Don
1,108 posted on 02/01/2003 6:31:02 PM PST by hattend
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A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen February 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. NASA (news - web sites) officials later removed the helmet. REUTERS/Rick Wilking

1,109 posted on 02/01/2003 6:32:41 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
My daughter and I were on the way to Crab Orchard to help a friend move when dad called me on the cell phone to tell me. Had to pull off the interstate to explain to her what happened. We went ahead and helped move Rick and his wife, but it was a somber day.

I think what really got me was to see that Nasa's Columbia mission page ( http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/resources/orbiters/columbia.html ) has already been updated with this:

28. STS-107 (1/16/03 - Crew and Vehicle lost during landing 2/1/03)
1,110 posted on 02/01/2003 6:35:08 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (We were "the thunder and the lighting of the storm...")
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To: TEXOKIE
"We are in a very crucial time in many levels and many fronts, Lord, and we have never needed your intercession more. Grant us that intercession, our Father!"

Father, we place all of this upon the altar and we give gratitude and praise to you that you do indeed hear and answer our prayers.

TEXOKIE,
Thank you for your prayer!!! I believe that Our Father heard you.

Dear Lord, You are in ultimate charge. I pray that we are always on Your side. Please have Mercy on us all. In Jesus' Precious Name. Amen.

1,111 posted on 02/01/2003 6:38:25 PM PST by Chong
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To: isthisnickcool
Thank you isthisnickcool,I will donate towards the flowers.Just freepmail me.
1,112 posted on 02/01/2003 6:39:09 PM PST by fatima
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To: Tennessee_Bob
holding my place in the thread
1,113 posted on 02/01/2003 6:41:18 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Arkinsaw
Like I said, "Your call."
1,114 posted on 02/01/2003 6:47:27 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
click this:
http://www.shuttlepresskit.com/index.html

1,115 posted on 02/01/2003 6:52:03 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (God Bless President Bush)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Searching for something else, I ran across this re the shuttle Columbia and . . . UFO'S:

SPACE SHUTTLE FIXES HUBBLE TELESCOPE AS UFOs WATCH

Jeff Challender writes, STS-109/Columbia has been a very interesting mission. Anomalies were seen during several phases of the flight, including post-ascent, rendezvous with Hubble, during spacewalks, and at the point of Hubble's release back to orbit. All of the goals of the mission were met in excellent fashion. The entire power system was overhauled, and the Hubble's deep space vision was improved ten fold. During rendezvous and capture, a reflection of HST's flat base appeared in a payload bay camera lens, which looked for all the world like a classic "flying saucer." To the untrained eye, it could easily have been mistaken for a UFO. A white object was seen several times during space walk activities, and although it had some resemblance to the Moon, it was in the wrong part of the sky. While astronaut Jim Newman was working on the HST power system, an object was seen from his helmet camera. This object came into view from ! underneath Columbia, came to a complete stop, and executing a 90 degree right angle turn, went back under the Shuttle. Some fifteen seconds later, this, or a similar object streaked past the astronauts at extreme speed, appearing to originate from the same area where the first object disappeared.

During the release of Hubble back into it's orbit, a strobing object was seen moving from 7 o'clock toward 2 o'clock. The camera operator tried several times to move the camera in order to eliminate the object from the field of view, to no avail. It continued to enter the screen. At this point, the feed was cut. Some time later, the tapes made by the crew from inside Columbia of the HST release were replayed in their entirety. The same strobing object was in the area of Hubble, but from a different angle. Disregard the incident involving Commander Altman and the capcom. It is a demonstrable case of ice chips caused by a small fuel leak. Thanks to Jeff Challender Jefchall@worldnet.att.net

A letter from Joe Love says, "I've been watching hours of the Shuttles STS 109 mission and I'm convinced I saw and recorded an awesome extraterrestrial craft that was imaged by the space shuttle camera at 3:30 AM Eastern time on March 1, 2002. It was a most graceful beautiful object in flight that I have ever seen. It seemed to be several hundred to a thousand feet from the shuttle and a hundred feet in length. Basically it was a glowing, golden colored, long and narrow band that kept a crescent shape most of the 38 seconds it was in view. It looked like a convulsing worm, tumbling nine times end over end. It straightened out once. The best part is the six bright, golden, brief flashes of light (unevenly timed) as if reflecting the sun, but the sun was on the opposite side of the Earth. During the mission press conference a reporter asked about the anomaly, Brian Austin-Lead Flight Director for STS-109 stated, "It was more than likely a piece of ice. Snip. It appeared much too far away and large to be ice. Thanks to Joe Love.

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From:

HERE: http://www.nationalufocenter.com/files/2002/index.php?id=16

1,116 posted on 02/01/2003 6:53:36 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Admin Moderator
During the NASA cuts of the 90's some were worried about safety in the future:

"It was born a research and development vehicle and it will die that way," maintains Jose Garcia, an outspoken shuttle engineer at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida who opposes the management contract. Garcia believes the shuttle is successful because of the vigilance built into the structure of its work force -- layers of civil servants and contractors that form a system of checks and balances that keep problems from slipping between the cracks.

Risking a career that spans three decades, Garcia outlined his concerns in letters last year to the White House and Congress. He fears that corporate managers responding to the profit motive will launch and fly when they should not, unchecked by significant government oversight.

Another Clinton caused disaster!!!!

1,117 posted on 02/01/2003 6:58:20 PM PST by eleni121
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To: spokanite
I agree with you ... if there were any hints of danger in re-entry, couldn't they use the return vehicle for the space station???? Alternatively, couldn't they wait in the space station for another shuttle to return them to earth??? Perhaps the other shuttle crew could also repair the Columbia if it were equipped for EVA. Why isn't this discussed?
1,118 posted on 02/01/2003 7:11:45 PM PST by dewaste (help from space station)
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To: hattend
Thank you for your very kind words, hattend.

No, I'm not an ordained minister or preacher. I havent put much info on my home page yet. Never dreamed anyone would be interested!

I join you in asking for God's blessing upon our 7 heroes and their loved ones.

1,119 posted on 02/01/2003 7:25:01 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: isthisnickcool
How beautiful for you to think of us and do such a wonderful thing.
1,120 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:06 PM PST by rintense (Go Get 'Em Dubya!)
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