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My Niece is Scheduled to Have an Abortion Today
Skooz | 1.30.2003 | Skooz

Posted on 01/30/2003 5:06:38 AM PST by Skooz

Please forgive the vanity.

I received this email from my mom yesterday morning. Amanda is my niece. She is 18 years old and she lives with my parents. She just started college on a full paid academic scholarship:

Hi, Just wanted to fill you in on the latest around here. Miss Amanda is dropping school because she's...............................are you ready................ take a breath....................pregnant. She's going with her boyfriend tomorrow for counseling before having an abortion. His folks told him that unless she has an abortion he can never see her again. She wants him more than anything, so that's probably what she'll do. It's been a bad few days around here. She was going to wait until the end of the quarter (March) to tell us, but she got real sick a few weeks ago and came home. I think part of it was the flu, and part "baby" sickness. She still doesn't feel well. One of the worse things is he won't be 17 until April. So anyway.......I thought I'd give you a little shock to have with your coffee. I'll keep you updated.

Of course, we are stunned. I am really seeking some advice about what I can do or say. My entire family (except for Amanda) is staunchly pro-life. Her mother is beside herself.

Oh, and how about the "His folks told him that unless she has an abortion he can never see her again" thing? How about it pro-choicers? She is being coerced into having an abortion she doesn't really want. She has said (in other correspondence) that she wants to keep the baby. Her "choice" is being made by the father's parents, who want to be spared the embarassment.

She went to see a "counselor" at an abortion clinic yesterday, and they scheduled the "procedure" for today. Of course, the "counselor" at the abortuary is just a salesperson whose job it is to sell abortions.

Anyway, I have run out of options. I have prayed and will continue to do so. I have offered to adopt the baby and have referred her to a wonderful woman who has dedicated her life to finding good homes for children who would otherwise have been aborted, but my niece is not interested. She is ready to have her baby killed to make her boyfriend's parents happy.

I really don't know what else to say. God help us.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; prayerrequest
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To: biblewonk
Somebody: His folks told him that unless she has an abortion he can never see her again.

biblewonk:OK what's wrong with this statement?

Please, are you saying that there is nothing wrong in this; that the woman should go ahead and kill the baby - per boyfriend's parents ultimatum?

201 posted on 01/30/2003 5:19:35 PM PST by don-o
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To: Skooz
How incredibly sad.

This is awful. Please, someone get it into her head that if your boyfriend's parents won't let you see their son without an abortion, they are not classy folks and she should just say forget the guy.
202 posted on 01/30/2003 5:24:07 PM PST by rwfromkansas (What is the chief end of man? To glorify God and enjoy Him forever. --- Westminster Catechism Q1)
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To: Skooz
I have to say, I do not know what would work in this situation.......the best bet would be to have another teen who aborted a child tell her how bad it was.

Unfortunately, it appears like it is too late.....I pray the doctor was ill today and could not make it to work.
205 posted on 01/30/2003 5:32:24 PM PST by rwfromkansas (What is the chief end of man? To glorify God and enjoy Him forever. --- Westminster Catechism Q1)
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To: Skooz
I take great pity on the pain that you and your family is feeling right now. I pray that someday your niece will realize the folly of her "right to choose" and repent of her sins.
207 posted on 01/30/2003 5:37:06 PM PST by Kuksool (Jesus Heals Fallen Souls)
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To: don-o
Please, are you saying that there is nothing wrong in this; that the woman should go ahead and kill the baby - per boyfriend's parents ultimatum?

No, he's not saying that.

208 posted on 01/30/2003 8:26:05 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Skooz
I am very sorry about your niece. Other than prayer, I have a few suggestions, if there is still time. Appeal to her intellect. Make her understand about the personhood of her precious baby. She should read http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/tul/psychtoday9809.html Show her pictures of babies waiting to be born. Provide her with as much scientific evidence that you can. Find a good pro-life counselor to speak with her. Get clergy involved if she is receptive?
209 posted on 01/30/2003 9:51:47 PM PST by cpforlife.org
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To: cpforlife.org
There's no way to test this assumption but, I'm convinced that the societal tacit acceptance of the 'ocassional need' for abortion has led to this state of expedient use of killing to solve difficult problems. It's still an individual human being that will have life support withdrawn. I've tried to address this tacit acceptance in the essay posted now at my FR profile page. I've yet to find a media outlet willing to handle so long an essay from an unknown. I pray that if essays like the one offered could be found more readily for resource, our nation would withdraw from our current culture of death for expedience. Alas, we are a deeply troubled nation. Our lack of understanding for the reality of prenatal individual human life seems to compound daily. Young women such as Skooz's niece are the tragic survivors of abortion. Pray for her ... and pray for our nation for we are tacitly accepting cannibalism in the name of medical enlightenment.
210 posted on 01/30/2003 10:06:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: gopwhit
Where is our baby Margaret.
211 posted on 01/30/2003 11:47:03 PM PST by fatima
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To: Skooz
Don't take this wrong but shouldn't she be charged with raping a minor?
212 posted on 01/30/2003 11:57:13 PM PST by Crossbow Eel
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To: Skooz
Call her , tell her that you'll help her. If she doesn't want to listen she'll hang up. If she is insulted by your invasion in her personal life she may never speak to you again. Hard feelings versus a life ......Just my opinion as to what I'd try.

Stay Safe, hope it goes well for your family , the young mother and her unborn child !

213 posted on 01/31/2003 12:13:37 AM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: Skooz
SO sorry - how awful to almost observe a killing in progress.

I've read a lot of discussion forums. Many parents of both girls and boys say without hesitation they would use extreme pressure tactics to force their daughter or their son's girlfriend to have an abortion. That's America today (and for that matter, human selfishness goes back a long, long time so there's nothing unique about today really).


214 posted on 01/31/2003 12:41:10 AM PST by LPStar
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To: Wiser now
I've also read that there is also a condition called 'Ectopic Pregnancy', or a 'Tubular Pregnancy', can also occur in some people who have abortions. Of course, they can also occur after a natural miscarriage. I don't know if you've heard or read about this. But if not, it is when a egg gets fertilized, and gets trapped or stuck in one of the Fallopian Tubes.

It can get implanted there, and start to develop. It eventually causes the F. tube to explode, and the baby dies. If the woman doesn't get help when it happens, she can die too, as it causes internal bleeding. My Mom had this condition, and never had an abortion. But she had a miscarriage just before she had me. But I've heard it has a high likelihood to happen in women that have abortions also.
215 posted on 01/31/2003 1:01:39 AM PST by dsutah
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To: Crossbow Eel
Good point if I was the parents of the daughter I would prosecute her for sexual assault if she insists on going through with killing a baby.

See if the time in jail cools her down a bit..

216 posted on 01/31/2003 1:05:49 AM PST by ewing
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To: dsutah
I should have said in first paragraph, first line, that I know it can happen in some pregnancies, because my Mom had it happen.

But I didn't know of the connection to miscarriages, or to abortion. I just found out. And I remembered that my Mom, incidentally, lost a baby to a miscarriage just before I came along.
217 posted on 01/31/2003 1:11:28 AM PST by dsutah
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To: Skooz
She grew almost hysterical, begging her not to kill the baby; telling her that abortion is murder, and that those who commit abortions are murderers.

my god it sounds like amanda is the one living in a house of horrors. I hope she gets away from your family as soon as possible. Nobody should be forcing outrageous guilt trip opinions on her unless SHE asks for them. It's HER business not yours or anyone elses for that matter. The things being said to her are outrageous lies, simply disgraceful and sinful PERIOD! DISGUSTING! The only ones you all should be praying for is yourselves.

218 posted on 01/31/2003 2:09:34 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: snowstorm12
SNOWSTORM12 WROTE: "my god it sounds like amanda is the one living in a house of horrors. I hope she gets away from your family as soon as possible. Nobody should be forcing outrageous guilt trip opinions on her unless SHE asks for them. It's HER business not yours or anyone elses for that matter. The things being said to her are outrageous lies, simply disgraceful and sinful PERIOD! DISGUSTING! [Emphasis Concerned's] The only ones you all should be praying for is yourselves."

I have read and reread Skooz's post and haven't found ANYTHING in it that is a lie. Please point out what you think are lies.

BTW, do you REALLY believe your own statement that "Nobody should be forcing outrageous guilt trip opinions on her unless SHE asks for them?" Please tell me that you don't REALLY believe a teenager (or ANYBODY) is going to ask someone for a guilt trip, especially regarding something they KNOW is wrong.

219 posted on 01/31/2003 2:33:53 AM PST by Concerned
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