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My Niece is Scheduled to Have an Abortion Today
Skooz | 1.30.2003 | Skooz

Posted on 01/30/2003 5:06:38 AM PST by Skooz

Please forgive the vanity.

I received this email from my mom yesterday morning. Amanda is my niece. She is 18 years old and she lives with my parents. She just started college on a full paid academic scholarship:

Hi, Just wanted to fill you in on the latest around here. Miss Amanda is dropping school because she's...............................are you ready................ take a breath....................pregnant. She's going with her boyfriend tomorrow for counseling before having an abortion. His folks told him that unless she has an abortion he can never see her again. She wants him more than anything, so that's probably what she'll do. It's been a bad few days around here. She was going to wait until the end of the quarter (March) to tell us, but she got real sick a few weeks ago and came home. I think part of it was the flu, and part "baby" sickness. She still doesn't feel well. One of the worse things is he won't be 17 until April. So anyway.......I thought I'd give you a little shock to have with your coffee. I'll keep you updated.

Of course, we are stunned. I am really seeking some advice about what I can do or say. My entire family (except for Amanda) is staunchly pro-life. Her mother is beside herself.

Oh, and how about the "His folks told him that unless she has an abortion he can never see her again" thing? How about it pro-choicers? She is being coerced into having an abortion she doesn't really want. She has said (in other correspondence) that she wants to keep the baby. Her "choice" is being made by the father's parents, who want to be spared the embarassment.

She went to see a "counselor" at an abortion clinic yesterday, and they scheduled the "procedure" for today. Of course, the "counselor" at the abortuary is just a salesperson whose job it is to sell abortions.

Anyway, I have run out of options. I have prayed and will continue to do so. I have offered to adopt the baby and have referred her to a wonderful woman who has dedicated her life to finding good homes for children who would otherwise have been aborted, but my niece is not interested. She is ready to have her baby killed to make her boyfriend's parents happy.

I really don't know what else to say. God help us.


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To: newgeezer
If I could have my way they would be allowed to marry and the 16 year old would be treated like an 18 yearold for the purposes of employment and all other thing that pertain to heading a household. This whole artificial 17.99 = child 18.00 equals adult is killing a lot of people.
161 posted on 01/30/2003 9:01:32 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Skooz
I haven't read the respones up to this point, so maybe this was already mentioned. But it's worth mentioning again.

Tell her that she will (not might, but WILL) be emotionally scarred for the rest of her life. This will be an event that she will have to reconcile herself with for a VERY long time. Now, as far as I can see, the scar of letting a "young love" go passes. But this type of scar will linger for ever.

I've seen adult women who had abortions years earlier still seeking spiritual and emotional help at church in an effort to deal with a decision that was made under "crisis" conditions.

162 posted on 01/30/2003 9:02:19 AM PST by peteram (Former tag traded for an unknown tag to be named later)
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To: AnAmericanMother
The boys' parents are completely blinded by their selfish desire to clean all this "problem" up without any mess. They are lying now to your niece, and they will lie in the future. Whatever it takes to save their precious reputation.

When I got married some years ago, my husband's son was paying child support for a child he had help conceive at 16. His mother wanted her son's girlfriend to have an abortion, but changed her mind after she held him after he was born (she died soon after and was glad to have had the opportunity to hold her only grandchild). My step-son was able to support the child and go to college because the entire family supported him--both emotionally and financially. This family could too. Now the young man is 27 and as it turns out, it's really the only responsibility he's ever had in his life. I shudder to think what he'd be like if he at least hadn't been forced to do that!

163 posted on 01/30/2003 9:04:04 AM PST by twigs
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To: Skooz
Pray
164 posted on 01/30/2003 9:05:02 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: unspun; Skooz
After reflecting on that, I'd have to adjust it, to strike "I don't know."

Whomever it is, this girl or any other, if she's lost track of the facts, facing her up to the facts is by far the most gracious and kind thing to do. Certainly such a thing can be refused by loving parents/guardians, with the consequences being very serious.

"Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses."
(Proverbs 27:6)

"A man [or woman] who remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed -- without remedy.
(Proverbs 29:1)
165 posted on 01/30/2003 9:07:16 AM PST by unspun (Compassionate Conservatism - beats the alternatives in either case.)
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To: VirginiaMom
You post #67: What a great story! Thanks. God bless.
166 posted on 01/30/2003 9:11:20 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: Skooz
Skooz--

You've gotten a lot of advice on this, and I'm not sure how much more helps, but here goes:

I'm in my early thirties and conservative Catholic. When I was 19 (and not a practicing Catholic), one of my best friends (also 19) got a 17 year-old girl pregnant. He wasn't religious either, but she was. She was from a lower-income family and didn't have the resources to support a baby, and had all kinds of emotional and dependency problems (she had been through rehab a number of times, both for drugs and alcohol). My friend fell for her because, well, she was strikingly beautiful.

Anyway, despite all the things she had going against her, despite her family's financial situation, they were devout Catholics and supported her in her decision to have the baby. Keep in mind--both she and my friend were the perfect example of "stupid, crazy kids"; they thought that love would conquer everything, that it was "them against the world" etc. After a while that wore off and they decided the best course was to have the baby and give it up for adoption.

I and my girlfriend at the time were there when she delivered the baby (not in the room, of course, but in the hospital). The adoptive parents were there as well; they were well-to-do professionals (both nursing professionals), very nice people. The look on their faces when they held their new baby girl for the first time was something that I'll never forget. They already had one adopted daughter, and this new child had been a "bolt from the blue" surprise for them; they'd been on the waiting list for another child for some time and couldn't stop thanking my friends for picking them to be the adoptive parents.

My friend and this young woman left the hospital after she recovered; their relationship lasted less than a month. After a few more reconciliations/breakups, they ended it for good and never saw each other again.

The point? This situation you describe sound a lot like tha situation that happened thirteen years ago (I can't believe it was that long ago--time flies). I don't know the exact situation here, but I would wager than in a year (probably much less) the young man who got your niece pregnant will be long gone...and she'll be left with a lifetime of guilt about this abortion.

But if she has the courage, she can do the right thing and make one of the tens of thousands of parents who are crying for children happier than they've ever been...

I'm praying on this...Christe Eleison

167 posted on 01/30/2003 9:19:23 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: ewing
"Not necessarliy true, putting that baby up for adoption would not hurt either party long term."

The baby would hopefully be the winner if adopted. But adoption doesn't always have a happy ending either. Certainly it would be the better choice than abortion. However, you can't tell me that giving a baby up for adoption, and never seeing that child again, isn't going to affect the mother long term. It will always be in her mind. As far as the 17 year old kid, it's too bad that he's learning the lesson that there are no consequences to having irresponsible sex out of marriage. I hope that if this child, his first child and his parents' first grandchild is aborted, that it haunts him and them the rest of rest of their lives. Why should the mother be the only one who ends up having to live with the results of her actions?

168 posted on 01/30/2003 9:21:28 AM PST by mass55th
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To: Skooz
What some people don't understand, is that FR can be a community of compassionate and caring friends. We can lean on each other for support in the good times and bad.

None of us want to see anyone in pain, and anything we can do to alleviate that pain, through advice or heartfelt prayer, is a welcomed relief.
169 posted on 01/30/2003 9:45:56 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Happy people live longer. I plan on living forever)
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To: Skooz
What a sad day for you Skooz, because it sounds like you won't be able to stop this. I'm glad you posted this here...this is just the kind of place to come for words of comfort and advice and it's OK to get serious and personal with this crowd---they can take it!

I used to be a lot more pro-choice than I am now (34), but I saw a lot of things in my college years and more than a few girls in our sorority made the same decision. I thought back then that you do the best with what you have at the time. But I look back and shake my head now, as I'm sure a few other gals, at our acceptance of abortion as "OK" because we were trying to make something of ourselves academically, etc.

Remember folks, that a single girl's confidence to accept her unplanned pregnancy, look a critical world in the eye and have it despite easily obtained options comes from a terrific, loving upbringing by strong parents. I agree with the above recommendations to take away her support.

That said, if this has indeed happened, remember to keep loving this girl as she will need your help. This will be painful for years....

My prayers for your family--

170 posted on 01/30/2003 10:33:09 AM PST by gopwhit
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To: Motherbear
If the niece disregards momma, she will ignore auntie.
171 posted on 01/30/2003 10:38:36 AM PST by verity
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To: Skooz
Take her for a sonogram.
172 posted on 01/30/2003 10:58:02 AM PST by Shethink13
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To: Skooz
I'll take the baby if she doesn't abort.
173 posted on 01/30/2003 11:01:09 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: Skooz
You have one last option - to let her see your face as she enters the medical facility or abortion clinic. It's pretty radical, I suppose, but if you truly believe that she is taking an innocent life . . . If she were carrying an infant or toddler into the building to have it killed, would you stand in the way? Just stand there and plead with her one last time. What have you got to lose? Your pride? Her respect for you? Just a suggestion. Plead with her to at least have an ultrasound before making the decision.
174 posted on 01/30/2003 11:04:09 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Poohbah
Of course, if I were her father, and this happened... That family would become my special hobby for the rest of their miserable lives

If I were her father, I would consider the fact that my daughter is apparently too... too {something} to make the right choice between young Prince Fahqwad and her baby. Also, there was her earlier choice of fornication over abstinence...

175 posted on 01/30/2003 11:12:33 AM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Bible)
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To: newgeezer
If I were her father, I would consider the fact that my daughter is apparently too... too {something} to make the right choice between young Prince Fahqwad and her baby. Also, there was her earlier choice of fornication over abstinence...

I've tried to teach my 16 year old daughter how much I value life and hate abortion. I hope that she realized on a scale of 10 getting pregnant as a 16/18 year old who is not married is about a 4 and having an abortion is a 9.5.

176 posted on 01/30/2003 11:14:54 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Skooz
I would do whatever you can to prevent this and prevent a life time of regreat for your neice.
177 posted on 01/30/2003 11:25:57 AM PST by The FRugitive
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To: Skooz
His folks told him that unless she has an abortion he can never see her again.

If she has the abortion, they will end up apart anyway. The parents can change their minds after the baby is born, but there is no way to reverse the abortion. I really hope you can convince your niece to at least see a counselor at a CPC to get more facts.

178 posted on 01/30/2003 11:44:35 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Skooz
Skooz:

You must tell your niece, if it isn't too late already, that this is the worst mistake of her life. Tell her that she will never regret anything more than this, and that nothing, not even her boyfriend, is worth the pain of taking a life. Tell her that God and her family will provide for her if she chooses life.
179 posted on 01/30/2003 11:52:21 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Skooz
I am so sorry. You should be praised for the lengths you went to help her. God bless.
180 posted on 01/30/2003 11:54:47 AM PST by amused (don't call them liberals, they're socialists)
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