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Immigrants decry registration policy - Islam Group: "Muslims are now guilty until proven innocent"
Associated Press ^ | December 22, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 12/22/2002 4:21:18 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Immigrants decry registration policy

12/22/2002

Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - A post-Sept. 11 federal registration policy that led to the detention of hundreds of Middle Eastern immigrants hurts more than it helps the war on terrorism, critics charged.

The detention of some immigrants who showed up to register under a new security policy drew comparisons to the internment of Japanese-Americans in World War II.

"People are selected on the basis of their ethnicity without regard to any particular crime being committed," Ken Inouye of the Japanese American Citizens League said Friday.

Critics said the detentions probably failed to net a single terrorist but did rile law-abiding Muslims who already feared being made scapegoats. "Muslims are now guilty until proven innocent," said Sabiha Khan of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

About 3,000 males ages 16 and older from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan and Syria who had temporary visas were required to register at Immigration and Naturalization Service offices by last Monday to comply with new federal guidelines to be fingerprinted and photographed.

In announcing the registration policy in November, Attorney General John Ashcroft said, "we must have a better understanding of who is entering and existing in our country."

Those who failed to register risk being deported.

But some who showed up said they found themselves put into packed cells for overstaying visas or because their immigration papers were not in order, caused in some cases by government backlogs.

About 400 people had been detained in Southern California, said Jorge Martinez, a U.S. Justice Department spokesman. Southern California is home to large communities of Iranian-Americans and Iraqi-Americans. A minimal number were detained elsewhere in the United States.

Only 23 remained in custody Friday. Their names came up in law enforcement databases in connection with various crimes, Mr. Martinez said.

"We need this program to better protect our borders," said Francisco Arcaute, an INS spokesman. "I trust if there were any mistakes, they will be corrected for a future deadline."

Lawyers of detainees met Friday afternoon with Jane Arellano, INS acting deputy director of the Los Angeles district.

She promised to look into any complaints of mistreatment of the detainees and said the INS would provide cultural sensitivity training for its employees, attorney Patrick Ashouri said.

"There has been some use of physical restraints. There has been some inaccessibility to medicine," Mr. Ashouri said of detainees. He refused to provide specifics but said formal complaints would be made.

In the next phase, male visa holders from 13 additional countries - including Afghanistan, Algeria, Lebanon and North Korea - will be required to register by Jan. 10. Males from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan must register by Feb. 21.

In a letter Thursday, Rep. Jane Harman, D-Redondo Beach, asked acting INS Commissioner Michael Garcia to hold a series of town hall meetings to explain the detentions, which she said could "set back our nation's fight against terrorism."

Canada issued a travel advisory to Canadian residents from the Middle East in October because of the registration requirement. The Canadian government considers the policy discriminatory.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/nation/stories/122202dnnatdetentions.64347.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: immigration; ins; muslims
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Only 23 remained in custody Friday. Their names came up in law enforcement databases in connection with various crimes, Mr. Martinez said.

"Where's the beef?"

1 posted on 12/22/2002 4:21:18 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Cry me a river. For the last 35 years, terrorist acts have been committed against the US by Muslim males. We have a right to demand they register, since they have been one of the biggest offenders of our immigration laws in the past by ignoring visa limits,etc.

These aren't even citizens in many cases. Three thousand dead people on 9/11 was too high a price to pay for our own stupidity--so to register they will go. Tough.

As for Jane Harmen,D-Redondo Beach, you should be ignored like the sycophant you are. You are the setback to the war on terrorism, not this registration process. Idiot.


2 posted on 12/22/2002 4:41:38 AM PST by exit82
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To: MeeknMing
"Muslims are now guilty until proven innocent," said Sabiha Khan of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. (my emphasis)

I'll agree with that ;-)

3 posted on 12/22/2002 4:45:00 AM PST by varon
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To: MeeknMing
um, no. not guilty until proven innocent. guilty would require their being jailed and then executed.

dep

4 posted on 12/22/2002 4:45:46 AM PST by dep
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To: MeeknMing
Once again Inouye misses the point. Not all the JAs went to the concentration camps. For example, virtually no Hawaiian Japanese went. On the other hand, some Japanese went straight to jail, both from Hawaii and from Continental US areas (and some of them were comparable to the guys just now picked up in this INS action).

All JAs West of the Mississippi River were dragged off to concentration camps by the Democratic Party. Their property was then sold at tax auctions to "insiders". Some believe that was the whole purpose of the exercise.

Now, when it comes to the Iranians, there are 600,000 of them in California alone (according to news reports). Less than 1/6 of 1% were arrested. This is in no way comparable to the 100% of JAs West of the Mississippi! None of the JAs who were sent to camps were lawbreakers either, unlike the Iranians and other Middle-Easterners INS picked up. The JA community has always been the most lawabiding in American history. For a number of decades there were no JAs who had even been charged with a felony, and few with a misdemeanor.

Neither Inouye nor his Moslem buddies there have the slightest understanding of the enormity of the crime committed by the US government against the Japanese-Americans in CONUS West of the Mississippi. Else they would not compare the plight of Iranian lawbreakers to that of young children shipped off to Roosevelt's concentration camps.

The Senator can talk the JA talk, but he didn't walk the JA walk. Folks should honor his service during WWII, but his current allegiances raise serious questions about the soundness of his mind.

5 posted on 12/22/2002 4:46:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: MeeknMing
In a letter Thursday, Rep. Jane Harman, D-Redondo Beach, asked acting INS Commissioner Michael Garcia to hold a series of town hall meetings to explain the detentions, which she said could "set back our nation's fight against terrorism."

I really, really hope the RATs try to capitalize on this non-issue and continue their baseless policy of attempting to brand Republicans as racists.

Good post.

6 posted on 12/22/2002 4:47:13 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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To: MeeknMing
"Muslims are now guilty until proven innocent"

Hey, Muslims, if you think that's bad please realize that Mexican nationals are above the law when it comes to being here as undocumented, paper-less, visa-less, out of status, hard-working "immigrants" doing the jobs you won't do.

7 posted on 12/22/2002 5:15:25 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: muawiyah
Agree. How long can he be a victim ?
8 posted on 12/22/2002 6:26:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: MeeknMing
"Muslims are now guilty until proven innocent," said Sabiha Khan...

Sounds good to me.

Now, here's a quarter. Call someone that gives a...well, you know the rest.

9 posted on 12/22/2002 6:30:57 AM PST by OldSmaj
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To: exit82
None of these were citizens as citizens were not required to register. These are aliens in the United States of America and those who were detained were detained because they were not in full compliance with the laws. If anyone had a problem with their visas they should have already been in full contact with the INS and already have cleared up the problem or left the USA while they waited.
10 posted on 12/22/2002 7:34:00 AM PST by harpseal
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To: MeeknMing
Inshallah = Sh!t Happens
11 posted on 12/22/2002 7:40:02 AM PST by Diana Rose
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To: MeeknMing
Innocent? How can illegal aliens be "innocent"?
12 posted on 12/22/2002 8:13:25 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: muawiyah
"People are selected on the basis of their ethnicity without regard to any particular crime being committed," Ken Inouye of the Japanese American Citizens League said Friday.

I'm personally acquainted with more than a few Japanese Americans who are disgusted with what the JACL has become-- a mouthpiece of the ulraleft.

Also, I hate to break Mr. Inouye's bubble, but maybe he ought to take a trip back to his anscestral homeland and see how the immigration service there operated. Every foreign national, other than those on short-term visitor's visas, is required to register and carry an ID card. Those overstaying their visas are subject to fine, imprisonment and/or immediate deportation whether or not they've committed other crimes. Profiling is prevalent. A white engineer from the west, for example, get through an airport line much faster than one from the Middle East. A Taiwanese girl with 200,000 yen in traveler's checks get through a line a lot quicker than a Thai girl with 40,000 yen in cash.

One visible result of this policy is that you can still show up to an airport 20 minutes before a flight and get on it.

13 posted on 12/22/2002 8:22:55 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: muawiyah
The Senator can talk the JA talk, but he didn't walk the JA walk.

Please do me a favor and don't confuse this spokesperson with the real Senator, Dan Inoue of Hawaii (who could win re-election after he passes away).

14 posted on 12/22/2002 8:25:12 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: MeeknMing
" "Muslims are now guilty until proven innocent," said Sabiha Khan of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. "

Yes, they are. Starting with you Sabiha. Until proven otherwise, I consider you a terrorist and a traitor. How do you suppose I came to that conclusion?

15 posted on 12/22/2002 8:27:48 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: MeeknMing
I love liberal thinking. Because liberals have blocked implementaion of US immigration proceedures and federal law they now feel they now have a right to criticize "selective enforcement" in the face of a clear and present danger.

Go figure.

The obvious solution is to enforce the law uniformily. Alas the argument is that we have neither the resources (championed by both the left and the right) nor the need (a cause celeb for the left) to do this.

17 posted on 12/22/2002 8:43:19 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: varon
"Muslims are now guilty until proven innocent" Sounds prudent to me, in this war against Islamic terrorists. We did the same at the start of WW II when the Japanese hit Pearl. After the war things went back to Constitutional mandates. If Islamic people in America don't like it, they should blame their Islamic fanatic leaders.
18 posted on 12/22/2002 8:55:24 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Cachelot
DEPORT THEM NOW BEFORE THEY KILL US AGAIN!
19 posted on 12/22/2002 9:39:55 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: MeeknMing
Welcome to President George Dubya Bush's

Homeland Penitentiary

Where everyone is a suspect (except Muslims)

"We've got your number"

20 posted on 12/22/2002 9:50:50 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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