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Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??
The Sierra Times ^ | Dec. 20, 2002 | Jackie Juntti

Posted on 12/21/2002 8:57:28 AM PST by madfly

I have been surfing the many news pages for months, and all the headlines, for the most part on a daily basis, mention the "War" in the Middle East. It is either Iraq, bin Laden, Palestine, Saudi Arabia or the like. Many articles about America going to fight over in that part of the world - the pretext being that we are fighting "terrorism".

I have yet to see headlines about the Invasion of America on our Southern Border. The SILENCE is deafening on this topic. The only time I read articles related to the Mexican invasion is when one or another ILLEGAL INVADER is spotlighted as not being able to get "instate tuition" at some tax funded school, or one of them needs very expensive medical care. All of this type of "news" coverage is based upon the bleeding heart mentality that we rich Americans should be opening our national door and bringing in all who wish to come and benefit from our years of hard work.

We have laws regarding "immigration" and we have a procedure to be followed to legally enter America. Many foreigners follow those rules and eventually are able to enter - legally - and then apply to become citizens. I welcome each and every one of those people. Members of my family originally entered America in this manner, coming in through Ellis Island. Another part of my family was here to greet them, as they were native Americans.

I can't fathom the silence of the media in reporting on the stealth invasion of America by all those who avoid detection at legal entry points. I can't understand why they are not making this a daily headline, with the numbers in bold print as they did during the Viet Nam war with the body counts.

I can't fathom why Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Ashcroft, and all those in Congress are not doing daily press conferences, alerting Americans to the invasion that has been, and continues to take place every single day of the year.

Where is the OUTRAGE they had following Sept. 11th? Do we need planes diving into buildings and fires raging in order to stand in front of cameras saying that AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK!!!

Why are the leaders of this nation so silent on this INVASION at our Southern Border? What is the back room deal that has been cut to keep the Welcome Wagon Ladies standing there, tables heaped high with goodies paid for by the America taxpayer? Why are we not condemning Vicente Fox for sending in his stealth operatives as we condemn Osama bin Laden and his ilk? What is the difference?

We have almost daily "ALERTS!" about some threat of some kind from the "terrorists" but nothing about the INVASION of AMERICA from Mexico and elsewhere. Why is there such SILENCE on this matter?

Recently, Rudy Giulliani went to Mexico as a consultant to deal with the alarming crime rate there. In fact, he was alleged to be the target of a kidnapping attempt while there. I hope "dealing with the Mexican crime rate" doesn't mean sending them North to the U.S. Vicente Fox and his Coyotes have been doing that job already, and quite successfully.

I can hardly wait for Sen. 'Chatty' Patty Murray of Washington to hold a press conference exclaiming how Fox & Coyotes have built schools and all those same good things she is now applauding bin Laden for. Perhaps we will have Jim McDermott standing along side of her telling of his recent visit and how wonderful those folks are that just want to find a "better life" in America. Even better would be for all this to be "Bipartisan", and all those GOP politicians could stand with them pushing open the borders so everyone can have a miserable life when America is finally brought to her knees by the INVASION taking place before our eyes.

I am telling you, there is something mighty strange going on. America is being invaded and the leaders of America are pushing to open the gate even wider to the invaders. They have already granted AMNESTY to thousands and now want to grant more options for the last wave of invaders. They are keeping a lid on any news that exposes this invasion - twisting it to promote only the "plight" of those poor downtrodden ILLEGALS, so as to build up more bleeding hearts to open our homes to the invading troops. They won't even refer to them as what they are - illegal invading troops - they refer to them as "undocumented aliens" - that is supposed to make us feel sorry for them and to ignore the fact that our laws have been violated.

We also have George W. Bush - the president of AMERICA - opening the Social Security benefits to Mexicans. I guess welfare, education, health care, housing, unemployment, isn't enough. We need to send them SS checks too.

Maybe we should bring Rudy Giulliani back here to deal with the ALARMING CRIME RATE in the Federal Government. We have men in high places openly subverting American law and our Constitution. If nothing else, maybe Rudy, with his recent experience at attending funerals, could officiate over the death of America as we knew it.

Where is the OUTRAGE?

Bye, bye, Miss American Pie, Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry. Them good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye Singing 'This'll be the day that I die, 'This'll be the day that I die.'"

© 2002 SierraTimes.com (unless otherwise noted)



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: bushonetermer; hatefulbenficklin; hyperboleoverfact; idiotbenficklin; immigration; ussocialsecurity; yesitsinvasion
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To: Missouri
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181 posted on 12/22/2002 10:00:09 AM PST by timestax
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To: austinTparty
"...throw some gasoline on the fire:..."

Yeah, that's all you race-baiting disrupters have been trying to do on this thread.

"...give me LIBERTY instead!"

"Instead", you ought to be praying that you finally grow a pair of cojones you back-biting, sniveling, race-baiting, little, chicken-weasel.

LOL!

182 posted on 12/22/2002 10:18:26 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Fact is, CA judges are appointed by people who were elected by the people.

Oh, good fact nicollo.... Love that name, nicollooooooo.

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You never answered this simple question, which California state judge, declared Proposition 187 to be illegal? Looking forward to your response. Hehehe.

I decided to look at your profile. It seems your interested in Limousines? Easily impressed are we?

183 posted on 12/22/2002 10:49:43 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Brownie74
The sheeple think he smiles nice ...and they sleep...God, I am so scared for my beloved nation and the future of my grandchildren !
184 posted on 12/22/2002 10:58:24 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: austinTparty
>>I also reject as loathsome and anti-American those who would believe we must batten down the hatches<<


I wonder how the U.S. soccer team felt a couple of years ago when they were bood in a match with the Mexican team in L.A. ? Who was doing the booing ? Do you loath those anti-Americas or do you want more of them in your country ?
185 posted on 12/22/2002 10:59:48 AM PST by Missouri
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To: nicollo
Fact is, CA judges are appointed by people who were elected by the people.

Oh, good fact nicollo.... Love that name, nicolloooo.

You never answered this simple question, which California state judge, declared Proposition 187 to be illegal? Looking forward to your response. Hehehe.

I decided to look at your profile. It seems your interested in Limousines? Easily impressed are we? Hey what ever floats your boat.

186 posted on 12/22/2002 11:02:06 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Missouri
Mis-spelled booed. Someone was talking to me here and I lost track.
187 posted on 12/22/2002 11:04:47 AM PST by Missouri
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To: 4Freedom
There are two substantially different views on the issue and neither expects to change the other. It is , however, worthwhile to look at the credibility of each side.

On your side of the issue is a group whose opinions and beliefs are based information that they recieve from sources such V Dare, American Patrol, FAIR, Pat Buchanan, etc, etc.

On my side of the issue is a group whose opinions and beliefs are based on information that they recieve from sources such as the Dept of Labor, the Census Bureau, the Congressional Research Service, the CATO Institute and other free marketeers, the National Center for Policy Analysis, etc, etc.

Now let me point out two things to you regarding these two sets of "authority".

1. Several, most, if not all, of these nativist websites have been banned from Free Republic. Sure, you'll find pieces of info from these places scattered and unattibuted amongst the replies on almost all of the immigration threads, but the never appear as a stand alone article.

2. When information is considered by those who make decisions of policy, the nativist websites are not considered. When Alan Greenspan goes before Congress to make a presetation on the labor supply, immigration quotas, and inflation, he won't be using any statistics from V Dare. When Congress considers the pros and cons of illegal immigration as a relief valve, they won't be consulting Pat Buchanan.

You and the rest of your crowd are certainly entitled to your opinions, but don't expect those opinions to count for much.

188 posted on 12/22/2002 11:04:59 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Missouri
And don't forget the thousands of illegal aliens that were found looting stores in the LA riots. Thousands were arrested, thousands more were not.
189 posted on 12/22/2002 11:05:07 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Missouri
It's good you corrected it before the spelling police arrived.
190 posted on 12/22/2002 11:05:56 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: nanny
>>We have to call things as they are. The Republicans, especially our President, is very much in favor of this.<<


No agruement here. I guess thats why Pat B. left the party.
191 posted on 12/22/2002 11:10:59 AM PST by Missouri
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To: nicollo
I'm sorry, but you can't swing a cat in my town, or cut a lawn, without a latin immigrant. Try getting a cab.

Amazing, we keep getting this same argument from the "bring in the world" crowd, legally or otherwise.

This question has been asked a million times to the Wall St. Journal types, and the closest to an answer I've gotten so far is an "I don't know". Perhaps you can tell us: where I live there is very little illegal immigration as of yet, in fact our population is actually declining, but guess what? The toilets are getting cleaned, hotels are staffed, fast food places have plenty of teenagers working in them, and yes, I have no problem getting a cab, how about that? Canada has hardly any illegal immigrants up there, but someone is doing the work... hmmm, I wonder who?

Could you tell us please? Maybe these areas are on the verge of collapsing because of have all those jobs "no one wants to do" but, we just don't know it yet.

192 posted on 12/22/2002 11:13:45 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ben Ficklin
>>On my side of the issue is a group whose opinions and beliefs are based on information that they recieve from sources such as the Dept of Labor, the Census Bureau, the Congressional Research Service, the CATO Institute and other free marketeers, the National Center for Policy Analysis, etc, etc.<<

All mentioned groups operate within the beltway and are suspect to scrutiny. We read the Census Bureau, too. Look up what percentage of illegal Mexican nationals make up the prison population of California. I wonder how much it cost to feed, house, and watch over these non-American criminals just there.

193 posted on 12/22/2002 11:21:12 AM PST by Missouri
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To: 4Freedom
Yeah, that's all you race-baiting disrupters have been trying to do on this thread

Do you know I am really beginning to get a picture here.

When we have a thread on immigration, we try to discuss what the thread is about - either work, SS, welfare, education or just border problems. There are some 3 or 4, some very recent, who have this outline for disrupting discussion.

First,they come on and post

Now when we refute those statements one by one each time - then they begin with the

Now keep in mind, we are discussing illegal immigration - but when the fallacies regarding illegal immigration are pointed out - then they pretend we have been discussing legal immigration all along. When we show them that is not the case they,

Now our mistake is in giving them the time of day in the first place. HOw do you respond to a charge of RACISM? You can't. All you can do is show how ignorant and evil people are who make the charge in connection with anything that affects our country. They can find racism in anything - believe - if they can't 'find' it, they will invent it. Of course, the silly thing is, they don't know what our ethnicity is, or that of our family members - you see it doesn't matter - they know it is untrue - but truth is not the issue with them. Now when you attempt to point out certain facts they begin childish taunts and childish retorts. The problem with us - we are actually attempting to have a discussion on something that is vital to the survival of this country and they are just attempting to distrupt and get us off track.

Some of these must have come straight out of the James Carville Book of Personal Destruction and Outright Lies

194 posted on 12/22/2002 11:25:01 AM PST by nanny
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To: Dust in the Wind
Thanks for posting that map. Let me tell you, where that corridor crosses thru west Texas, the is much competition regarding its exact location. You might find interesting this page on that corridor. Note that there is a menu of all the Congressional High Priority Corridors.

In recent weeks Congress has appropriated money for upgrades to US 287 as it moves NE from DFW to Amarillo and points north from there. This funding definately included upgrades on the spur to Raton, NM that is shown on your map. My memory fails me on exactly how far north these upgrades were to be applied but it is possible they were to extend up US 385 to Rapid City.

195 posted on 12/22/2002 11:25:14 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Thanks Joe.
196 posted on 12/22/2002 11:26:46 AM PST by Missouri
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To: Ben Ficklin
You and the rest of your crowd are certainly entitled to your opinions, but don't expect those opinions to count for much.

That's nice and wise of you to allow the 80% of us who want the borders closed and laws enforced (read the polls) to have our opinion. Thank-you so much Karl.

Btw, you're wrong about American Patrol.com, most of the info anyone can gather from that site are links to news stories that report the heinous crimes illegal aliens are committing. The people of California for example don't need studies to know they're 35 billion dollars in debt thanks in large part to millions of lawbreakers and the pandering politicians you support.

197 posted on 12/22/2002 11:33:45 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ben Ficklin
You tell us we need all this illegal immigration because of declining birth rates, so if you think you're up to it could you answer my question on post 192:

My area has very few illegal aliens YET, but all the work is getting done. Same with Canada. Why is that Ben?

198 posted on 12/22/2002 11:53:22 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ben Ficklin
Hey Ben, I just went to American Patrol, you know the site where we get all our information. Here's a link from there, yes I'd say we definitely need more illegal aliens to come in and do the work we lazy, racist, "knuckledraggers" just don't want to do:

‘GANG RAPE' PACK BARES EVIL SCHEME

199 posted on 12/22/2002 12:22:05 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Read the article and theres a thread running on this starting yesterday. Seems like the police dog ( a german shepard named Sean ) knows what to do about illegals who are criminals. Put him in charge of the deportation wing of the INS.
200 posted on 12/22/2002 12:44:42 PM PST by Missouri
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