Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??

The Sierra Times ^ | Dec. 20, 2002 | Jackie Juntti

[Sparta]

Fighting illegal immigration doesn't contribute to the establishment of our new police state.

[Illbay]

Frankly, I'm tired of the use of the term "Invasion", with all respect to Michelle Malkin.

It's not an "invasion," it's a migration or an illegal immigration.

Period.

And it's not happening because of some dark and nefarious plan of the Illuminati, it's happening because we don't have the political will to stop it.

I hope that it will become a political issue "real soon now," but I don't really see much sign of it.

An "invasion" is with tanks and troops and holding of territory. This is a migration. Such migrations have occurred from time to time throughout history; indeed, many of the peoples like the English and the Australians, and even the Americans, who are considered legitimate tenants of their lands, got where they are today, because of migrations that were somewhat resisted but inevitably and inexorably took place.

That's human history.

So what do we want to do about this one? That's the political question, but putting it in military terms is inappropriate.

[madfly]

ping

[Sparta]

Illbay's here to show his knowledge on this situation.

[pabianice]

Someone once said, "All politics is local" Until the immigrant swarm hurts you, most people don't care.

[FITZ]

It's more like an invasion because the Mexican government is staying in control over these people. It's not like any of them read the US Constitution one day and decided they wished to be Americans, they wish to stay Mexicans, they'll continue to be governed by the Mexican government which is setting up all kinds of political branches throughout the USA.

"President Vicente Fox appointed 100 U.S. residents to advise his government on relations with the world's No. 1 economy and on policies for Mexicans living in the U.S.

The 100 advisers, a mix of academics, community leaders, business leaders and politicians, will "advise the government of Mexico on the design and formation of policies for Mexican communities in the U.S." a Foreign Relations Secretariat statement said."

These are not new Americans, they are Mexicans living in the U.S.

http://www.thenewsmexico.com/printedformat.asp?id=42430

[Snerfling]

Until the immigrant swarm hurts you, most people don't care.

On the other side of the coin, if you've experienced it for a long time, you begin to realize that there's NOTHING you can do about it. All civilizations die from within. What makes you think the US was going to last forever?

[Sparta]

The US ought to apply the lessons of history so it can last forever.

[SCalGal]

Good article - thanks for the ping.

[FreeSpeechZone]

Ted Kennedy's immigration "reform" bill of 1965, signed into law by Lyndon Johnson. This bill effectively limits European immigration and opens the floodgates Third World immigration. These immigrants will normally vote for those that promise them a "free ride" and give it to them.

[Ben Ficklin]

The Free Republic is the internet's premier "hate the mexicans" web site.

[B4Ranch]

"Among Hispanic groups, Mexicans had the lowest proportion of full-time, year-round workers with annual earnings of $35,000 or more (21 percent). Overall, Hispanics were less likely than non-Hispanic Whites to have earnings of $35,000 or more (23 percent compared with 49 percent)".

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I wonder how many Americans want these poor paying jobs? Older retired folks oe young Americans just out of High School?

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"Among Hispanics, 66 percent were of Mexican origin; 14 percent were of Central and South American origin; 9 percent were of Puerto Rican origin; 4 percent were of Cuban origin; and the remaining 6 percent were other Hispanics. The country's overall Latino population was close to 33 million, or 12 percent of the total population."

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When viewing census statistics, keep in mind that our Census Bureau identifies Hispanics amongst the "White".

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http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2001/cb01-41.html

[RnMomof7]

I sometimes wonder if this whole Mid East adventure (seeing we do not look for osma any more) isn't being used as a cover for the REAL agenda..a united hemisphere

[MissAmericanPie]

Putting it in military terms is not inappropriate, our sovereignty is under attack by globalist elements inside our own government and it's time to call it what it is, expose them and deal with them.

The only outrage heard is on the still free of govenment control internet and Bush is working night and day to put and end to that. When the government itself is precluding any possibility of stopping this nonsense unless it is a militia response it is a war. The first hero's of this effort are guarding the borders of private property as we sit here comfy and type, in shame and disgrace, while they pull the weight and put everything on the line including their lives. So frankly I don't give a flying monkey if you are "tired" of hearing it put in military terms.

[x]

The Free Republic is the internet's premier "hate the mexicans" web site.

I suspect you'll find a lot of people of Mexican ancestry who oppose these recent policy changes and want tighter borders. Talking of "hate" is an easy way of avoiding serious discussion of our future. Proponents of policies have to make their case on its own merits, and not just accuse others of hatred. And if you're looking for "hate sites" there are a lot of other sites that better fit the name.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

QUESTION: "Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??"

ANSWER: There is none. People are too busy eating, drinking, drugging, copulating(with boys and girls),evacuating and snoring.

[Ben Ficklin]

Tell me that the Fox/Coyote analogy qualifies for anything except the rhetoric of hate.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

[swarthyguy]

Illegal immigration is stoked by the US EMPLOYERS and BUSINESSES who hire these people.

Until anger is directed at the builders, landscape companies, hotel conglomerates and industrial facilities and farms that hire the illegals, it is totally ineffectual to complain.

Penalise the businesses and watch the migrations dry up.

Now who, if any politician has the guts to cut off the gravy train for these companies.

[Kenny Bunk]

I agree that this issue should be "un-hystericalized."

But at this point, a military presence is required on the border to stop the flow of illegals from the one side, and the armed unofficial (but completely legal and understandable) re-action from the other. Both reasons are why we support a government in the first place.

The military presence may not have to be permanent. But at this juncture, the border must be stabilized, order must be restored, and we must know who is in the country, and more important who is trying to get in who should not be.