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Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??
The Sierra Times ^ | Dec. 20, 2002 | Jackie Juntti

Posted on 12/21/2002 8:57:28 AM PST by madfly

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To: Morrigan
Try as you may
Try as you might
Lets all go out to dinner tonight

Just to make sure that the illegal busboy has a job and he gets his share of the tip jar.

61 posted on 12/21/2002 5:46:57 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
"But you see, the Reagan/Thatcher movement is only 20 years old.........."

First, you try to paint Americans against massive, out-of-control, legal immigration and unlimited illegal immigration as racist, "knuckledraggers". Even though a majority of all American citizens of all colors and races feel the same way about immigration.

Now, you want to pin all of the 'Borderless', 'One-World', 'New World Order', 'Globalist' crap of the last 20 years on Reagan and Thatcher.

The "middle" you're talking about is the flaming, far left and the wealthy elites (as in Hollywood and Ivy League, braindead elites) that you're trying to pass off as the "middle". The only middle Bush is in is the middle of a mid-life crisis.

Try again you "knuckledragging" race-baiter.

62 posted on 12/21/2002 5:47:56 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
Well, from your position out in far, far right field, it probably does look left.
63 posted on 12/21/2002 5:51:02 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
"By the way, I am a card carrying member of the MayFlower Society."

Geez, no wonder the indians wanted to exterminate the pilgrims.

It took the rest of us 100s of years to undo the bad impression your ancestors made on them.

Did great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa Ficklin get off the boat and call the indians that came to greet them a bunch of naked, heathen, "knuckledragging" savages?

64 posted on 12/21/2002 6:02:18 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
Guess that explains the Indians' reaction when they saw the Mayflower drop anchor at Plymouth:

"Ah, sh!t -- boat people..."
65 posted on 12/21/2002 6:07:20 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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To: Ben Ficklin
Well, I probably appear to be on the far, far right from where you're standing on the race-baiting, white-hating left.
66 posted on 12/21/2002 6:07:29 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
How odd that you would bring the naked, savage indians.

Do you believe in the "Reconquista"?

67 posted on 12/21/2002 6:07:53 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: JackelopeBreeder
More like the indians thought ignorant, obnoxious tourists the minute the first Ficklin opened his mouth to ask where the 'first class' accommodations were. ;^)
68 posted on 12/21/2002 6:13:35 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: madfly; Jim Robinson
Paranoia runs rampant on FR.

Look up!

The sky is falling!

69 posted on 12/21/2002 6:14:56 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: 4Freedom
Just in the interest of getting you up speed on some of the political battles in Mexico, You might enjoy this article about Fox and the PRI.
70 posted on 12/21/2002 6:18:23 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: austinTparty
Matter of fact, most are equal opportunity haters--they'll hate anyone who is not a native-born WASP.

Just like in Mexico where they hate anyone who isn't brown, which probably explains why Mexico's population is 92% Latino. I guess those hateful Mexicans just don't believe in multi-culturalism or diversity.

71 posted on 12/21/2002 6:28:36 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: FITZ
Most of the murders on Long Island seems to be the Salvadorian gangs killing non-Salvadorians.
72 posted on 12/21/2002 6:46:04 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: Ben Ficklin
"Do you believe in the 'Reconquista'?"

Better you should ask how many Mexicans still living in Mexico and mostly light-skinned believe in the 'Reconquista'".

Here's something else you obviously don't know you ignorant race-baiter.

New Zogby Poll: Mexicans Say Southwest U.S. Belongs to Them; Shouldn't Need Permission to Enter U.S.

58% of MEXICANS believe the United States Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico.

28% of Mexicans disagree.

14% unsure.

57% of MEXICANS believe they should have the right to enter U.S. without U.S. permission.

35% disagree.

7% unsure.

65% of ALL AMERICANS (not just white Americans) DISAGREE with the statement: foreigners residing illegally in the U.S. should be given amnesty.

26% support amnesty, duh.

9% unsure, double duh.

58% of ALL AMERICANS (not just white Americans) are for less immigration.

6% want more immigration.

30% want to keep immigration at the same levels.

68% of ALL AMERICANS (not just white Americans) surveyed say "the U.S. should deploy military troops on the U.S. borders as a temporary measure to help the U.S. Border Patrol curb illegal immigration."

28% disagree.

3% unsure.

How can anyone (even a race-baiting, card carrying, MayFlower Society member) deny 'Reconquista' in the face of the Mexican people's own professed beliefs?

I'm sure you'll try.

73 posted on 12/21/2002 6:50:27 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: austinTparty
"Matter of fact, most are equal opportunity haters--they'll hate anyone that's not a native-born WASP."

Why don't you have the guts to direct your race-baiting comments to the Freepers you're attempting to malign with them?

"Well, I suppose at least I'd rather the poison be spilled in public..."

Yeah, that's exactly where you and Ficklin are spilling your poisonous, white-hating rhetoric alright.

74 posted on 12/21/2002 7:01:44 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: madfly
bump to the top
75 posted on 12/21/2002 7:03:13 PM PST by timestax
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To: 4Freedom
A poll is just a poll. The real world consists of actions.

All of these large percentages have the option of action. Given that option, these same people will opt for a dinner where illegals are working. Or a yard crew with illegals. Even Rep Tancredo had illegals remodeling his house

A chicken processor who employed whites only would quickly go out of business.

BTW, have you ever looked at the unemployment rates for the last decade? Exactly how many illegals were absorbed, are being absorbed?

76 posted on 12/21/2002 7:07:15 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Oh, I could be a member of the DAR 5 times over (literally) and trace my roots in this country back to the 16th century, but honestly, I think that gives me even more of an incentive to welcome immigrants.

This country was not founded on the basis of national origin, race, color, religion or creed, but on principles enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, which constitute the catechism of our civil religion, if you will. And anyone who adopts and truly believes in those principles (that we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness) and is willing to work hard and take responsibility for their own actions has what it takes to become an American, as far as I'm concerned, be they black, brown, yellow, red or green (to all those frothing at the mouth at this, I'm not advocating ILLEGAL immigration, for crissakes). When is the last time a Mexican terrorist blew up an airplane? Put the border control where it matters.

77 posted on 12/21/2002 7:11:45 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: austinTparty
Well said.
78 posted on 12/21/2002 7:17:09 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
>>Even Rep Tancredo had illegals remodeling his house<<


Get your story straight. The Denver Com-post newspaper posted a story about two ANONYMOUS illegals who were hired by a CONTRACTOR to work on Tancredos house. The paper refused to release the names of the illegals so I have my doubts about the whole story. Even if true, the CONTRACTOR hired the illegals, not Tancredo. You make it sound like he went out of the way to hire them. As for the Com-post, they have made Joe Stalin proud.
79 posted on 12/21/2002 7:25:56 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Ben Ficklin
Ficklin, do you realy believe your lies about Tom Tancredo, empty race-baiting rhetoric and leftist, open-borders, globalist hyperbole is an answer to the cold, hard results of a scientific poll taken in Mexico and then in the United States?

You're pathetic.

"A chicken processor who employed only whites..."

Who said they should only employ "whites"? This whole discussion has been about illegal immigration. U.S. employers should only employ American citizens and legal immigrants.

You keep trying to turn this thread into a discussion of race and color.

Now we know why the Ficklins were on the Mayflower. They were being chased.

80 posted on 12/21/2002 7:26:04 PM PST by 4Freedom
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