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Drudge - Karl Rove Wants Lott Out of Leadership, Replaced with Frist
Matt Drudge Report/Next Week's Newsweek ^ | Matt Drudge

Posted on 12/15/2002 7:59:46 AM PST by ewing

Nothing but a headline right now..

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: boostradioshow; drudge; frist; newsweak; newsweek; nicholspowermad; rove; whitehouse
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To: america-rules; Wait4Truth
If Frist is Pro Abortion then what's THIS

I remember Frist saying he was pro-choice and casting some pro-choice votes shortly after being elected to the Senate. However, I haven't taken the time to find those votes yet. As for his votes on partial birth abortion, remember a dozen mostly pro-abortion RAT Senators voted for a partial birth abortion ban as well so that doesn't matter much. The real issue is whether he is pro-life overall or not and does he support a ban on abortions. I'll bet if you were to call his office, they would provide a negative response on both questions or a wishy-washy one to try to cloud the issue. Clearly, Frist is not an extremist on abortion like Dick Riorden. However, I still think he is pro-choice on abortion and the votes that you sent me on issues of relatively minor importance to the pro-life community do not necessarily disprove that presumption.
161 posted on 12/15/2002 12:46:42 PM PST by rightwing2
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To: wirestripper
Affirmative Action exists and is practiced in the North as well as the South. The blacks of the North IMO, do not have the chips on their shoulders as Southern blacks tend to. They are not oppressed up north they are simply more equal to any other races; as some like Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton, (He is black, isn't he?) Al Sharpton, et el... feel superior, and sue when they don't have enough money.
162 posted on 12/15/2002 12:48:06 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: InspiredPath1
Every policy...every photo op...every day of his life.

A bit dramatic oh inspired one.

163 posted on 12/15/2002 12:48:23 PM PST by swheats
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To: truth_seeker
That might just mean that he looks at each measure separately, weighs the pros and cons, and votes accordingly?

I would expect nothing less from a U.S. Senator, or any other American for that matter. It just so happens that I don't agree with the majority of his conclusions.

How have his specific votes, on specific measures, impacted your own personal gun ownership and usage?

He voted against replealing the Clinton/Brady medium capacity magazine ban. This limits my 9mm handgun to 10 rounds, when the gun was meant to hold 18..

164 posted on 12/15/2002 12:55:03 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: nanny
I am remembering Lott made a statement on ending partial birth abortion and putting troops on the border. I am beginning to wonder if it is the Democrats fueling this or perhaps someone higher up? Now the Pres. may want a ban on partial birth abortion - I don't know - but he does not want any discussion about troops on the border. He wants that to remain out there where he can call it the 'fringe element'. If you have the Senate majority leader bringing it up - it gives it credence and the Pres. just can't have that. It will cause the American people to actually begin dicussing this problem. He is trying to pretend it doesn't exist - and you know what? We have let him get away with it. IN any situation, you have to see who benefits. And it is not always the most obvious.

Of the four Senators, Lott has the best record on immigration. Frist's record on immigration is pretty much abysmal although admittedly Nickles' and McConnell's records aren't much better. Lott's determination to pass a partial birth abortion ban over Bush/Rove's opposition and his desire to station troops on the border while the Bush-Rove ticket supports amnestying millions of illegals proves that Lott is more conservative than Bush on a broad range of issues and accordingly would make a better President although admittedly a more contraversial one. Nickles is more conservative than Lott and has less baggage which is why I am supporting Nickles, but this could all backfire badly if Frist or McConnell succeed Lott.
165 posted on 12/15/2002 12:58:18 PM PST by rightwing2
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The only reasons that some southern blacks have chips on their shoulders is because Jesse jackson wants them to.

I said sometime back that I saw one of the principle reasons for this sudden attack on Lott as a racist, if the misconception of many (particular northerner's) that all Southerners are inherently racist.

I am what they call a damn yankee. I have lived in the south for the majority of my 52 years, and I had to overcome the misconceptions taught to me in northern schools and society. Therefore, I can still view both sides of this issue and what I tell you is absolutely true!

Prejudice is and never has been confined to the south. Many northerners believe that the civil war was fought over slavery as the primary issue. A silly thought, but so prevalent!

Do you think for a minute that thousands of poor whites went into battle to protect the interests of a few white slave-owners? Hell NO!

They fought for the freedom to decide what was best for them and not to be bullied by a central government that refused to see their issues and their needs.

Lott is not in any way racist! He grew up in the south with the same issues all Southerners have. That is the unfair federal power over the southern states in the form of forced this and that in order to satisfy the yankee carpet baggers. They still are sensitive to this issue, but we as southerners grew and got past the slavery issue a hundred years ago.

It is the Northerner and the liberal, it is the Jesse jackson's and the Congressional Black Caucus socialists that continue to keep this issue alive and beat southerners over the head with it each and every day.

We have had enough!

166 posted on 12/15/2002 1:13:06 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Gore announces he will not run in 2004!
167 posted on 12/15/2002 1:22:14 PM PST by InspiredPath1
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To: ALS
>> Frist is pro-choice. SCREW Frist! <<

Huh?

Frist is physician who has stated countless times that abortion is abhorrent and should be banned. Are you confusing him with one of the New England RINOs?

Partial Birth Abortion Ban – Passage, S. 1692 (Roll Call Vote No. 340). Passage of the bill that would ban a certain late-term abortion procedure, in which the physician partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. Anyone convicted of performing such an abortion would be subject to a fine and up to two years in prison. The penalties would not apply if the abortion is necessary to save the mother’s life.
FRIST VOTED YES

3. Prison Abortions. S. 2500 (roll call vote 235). DeGette (D-CO) ammendment to the Commerce, Justice, State Appropriations Bill that would have permitted the use of taxpayer funds for abortion services in federal prisons.
FRIST VOTED NO

13. Banning Military Abortions, S. 2549 (Roll Call Vote No. 134). The Senate voted to kill and amendment that would have provided abortions in military hospitals.
FRIST VOTED YES

17 . Morning After Pill, HR 4577 (Roll Call Vote No. 169). The Senate refused to kill an amendment stopping the use of federal funds to distribute the “morning after” pill on school grounds.
FRIST VOTED YES TO KILL THE AMENDMENT

Pro-life physician Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) asserted that the partial-birth abortion procedure should be banned "because it is needlessly risky and dangerous for the woman, because it is inhumane and painful to the fetus, because it is absolutely unnecessary and because it is ethically unacceptable."

168 posted on 12/15/2002 1:25:56 PM PST by BillyBoy
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To: Diddle E. Squat
LOL, that's about right.
169 posted on 12/15/2002 1:47:29 PM PST by GWfan
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To: InspiredPath1
he will not run in 2004

Not really good news, IMHO.

This means the democrats are making a serious run and are getting rid of any old failures.

This opens the field to a candidate that may have a chance.

Republicans need to take this as a warning shot across the bow.

170 posted on 12/15/2002 2:03:44 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: InspiredPath1
If he remains, all legislation will be viewed through the "Race" prism in the future...

Only because useful idiots like you will aid and abet the Democrats in their smear campaigns.

171 posted on 12/15/2002 2:20:44 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Howlin
Since when is it the White House's business who the senators elect to lead them?

Constitutionally, never, but since when does anybody pay any attention to that?

172 posted on 12/15/2002 2:23:10 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Sabertooth
You don't think the standards ought to be higher for national party leadership than for just a garden variety Senator?

Uhhh... no.

You have to make up your mind here: either Lott is a vile racist, or he is not.

Evidently you just want to smear him enough with the "RACIST!!! RACIST!!! RACIST!!!" brush to make somebody else majority leader, but not enough to give up the Senate seat.

For someone with such high moral standards, they sure are flexible.

173 posted on 12/15/2002 2:30:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You have to make up your mind here: either Lott is a vile racist, or he is not.

False dilemma, the math is simple:

Lott is too much of a liability to be Majority Leader, but not such a liability we need to sacrifice a majority in the Senate.




174 posted on 12/15/2002 2:47:56 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

"Only because useful idiots like you will aid and abet the Democrats in their smear campaigns"

"Useful Idiots" - The democrats will need no help from me. Did you read the New York Times today? Wash Post? Newsweek? No? ... Perhaps you were asleep all week.

I have seen it too many times. The democratic slander machine will fry the repub party over this issue and if we continue to support a former segregationist as our majority leader - WE WILL DESERVE TO LOSE!

It's quite easy to call people you disagree with "useful idiots". It's clear to me that you are a quite useless idiot.
175 posted on 12/15/2002 2:49:37 PM PST by InspiredPath1
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To: Rye
Here is the man who SHOULD be the Next Majority Leader of the United States Senate.

Oklahoma Senator Don Nickles

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Bill Frist screwed conservatives badly as head of the Senatorial Campaign Committee in the 2002 election cycle; and therefore doesn't deserve one ounce of support from conservatives now.

176 posted on 12/15/2002 2:51:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Here is the man who SHOULD be the Next Majority Leader of the United States Senate Is Nickles more or less conservative than Lott? I ask because Lincoln Chaffee (a Jim Jeffords wannabe) has said that he doesnt want a new election because he's afraid that someone more conservative than Lott will be elected.
177 posted on 12/15/2002 3:01:11 PM PST by InspiredPath1
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To: InspiredPath1
Yes, he's more conservative than Lott...and screw Chafee.

Is this decision on who is going to lead the Senate for us going into the 2004 elections going to be made by the RINOs, or by the majority...i.e. conservatives?

Choosing Frist is about the only way the leadership of this party could take a bad situation and make it even worse.
178 posted on 12/15/2002 3:13:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: InspiredPath1
I have seen it too many times. The democratic slander machine will fry the repub party over this issue and if we continue to support a former segregationist as our majority leader - WE WILL DESERVE TO LOSE!

And just exactly what makes you believe Lott will be the last, genius? If this works, the next two years are going to be nothing but this same tactic used on conservative after conservative after conservative. The DEMONcRAT machine was built on demogaguery, and we have handed them a new way to use it on a silver platter.

If Lott resigns, he will not just resign from majority leader. He will resign, period, and the STUPID PARTY will once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and hand the majority back to the DEMONcRATS.

179 posted on 12/15/2002 4:11:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Sabertooth
Lott is too much of a liability to be Majority Leader, but not such a liability we need to sacrifice a majority in the Senate.

So did your math take into account that if Lott does resign, he will resign PERIOD?

What more perfect revenge on the sleazebags like you who ginned up this "RACIST!!! RACIST!!! RACIST!!!" smear so you could get somebody in as majority leader you like better.

Conveniently enough, your high moral standards dicate that Trent is too big a racist to remain as leader, but they are flexible enough to allow a RACIST RACIST RACIST to remain in office to preserve your majority.

If you win, Trent will resign from the Senate, and once again the STUPID PARTY will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

180 posted on 12/15/2002 4:16:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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