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7 Reasons Why Israel is Entitled to The Land
GAMLA ^ | March 4, 2002 | Senator James M. Inhofe

Posted on 12/01/2002 6:37:28 AM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 12/01/2002 6:37:28 AM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Alouette; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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A little old, but I don't think it's been posted before.

2 posted on 12/01/2002 6:38:27 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Excellent article, thanks for posting it.
3 posted on 12/01/2002 6:56:17 AM PST by nofriendofbills
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To: SJackson
Wasn`t the area also pretty much of a wasteland until Jewish Settlers returned from diaspora?


Those Gypsies who are now calling themselves "Palestinians" have contributed very little to the prosperity of that little Nation.

It is easy for someone such as myself who lives in relative safety here in the USA to make comments.

Nevertheless, I would not surrender 1 single inch of land to those primitive, treacherous, frauds.

4 posted on 12/01/2002 6:56:55 AM PST by Radix
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To: SJackson
Well, I think that Israel has a right to the land by virtue of conquest, and that the U.S. has an interest in that by virture of Isreal being a democracy, anti-terrorist, etc.

I will say, however, that I think reasons #1 and #2 are totally bogus.

What Inhofe says is true, I just don't think it matters who left a scroll in a cave 3,000 years ago. Every nation on earth has changed owners since then. Are we to re-draw the boundaries of every nation based upon 3,000 year old borders?

Also, it takes a lot of chutzpah for someone who owns property in Oklahoma to make such a claim. The Indians were on his land only 150 years ago.

Anyway, this is not meant to be a swipe at Inhofe or Israel, it is a refelction of my beleif that the whole who was and wasn't there crapping in the bushes 3,000 years ago is so silly, that it really doesn't advance our cause.

The cause is this: God created us as individuals with inalienable rights. Freedom is the natural state of mankind, which includes the right not to be blown to bits by a bunch of warped individuals with completely irrational minds.

Under the view that we were all created equal, it is in the interest of all free men to promote freedom around the world, recognizing that the slavery or oppression of any individual is neccessarily a threat to our own freedom.

The Israelis sought freedom in a largely abandoned desert. They are surrounded by nations of murderous thugs, who oppress hundreds of millions. It is in our interest to defend Israel, and to bring down the murderous regiemes of Israel's enemies.

The Arab's are fanatics and are totally warped. But they are not neccessarily anymore warped then the Hitler Youth or the Japs who embraced freedom when they tasted it. It is therefore worth our while to promote freedom in the middle east.

I couldn't care less who took a wiz on a tree in Nazareth 3,000 years ago, and it has no effect on who I think should occupy that land now.

5 posted on 12/01/2002 7:03:20 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: SJackson
Excellent article, thanks very much!
6 posted on 12/01/2002 7:03:27 AM PST by KLT
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To: SJackson
#10 Only Israel has made sites available to all religions
(except Jews do not have access to the Temple Mount)
7 posted on 12/01/2002 7:05:52 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: SJackson
I appreciate the effort of trying to reason with the world on why Israel has a right to the land, but only one reason matters...........BECAUSE GOD SAYS SO!!!!
8 posted on 12/01/2002 7:06:38 AM PST by gracex7
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To: SJackson
Look, I'm sorry, but while I am no grand supporter of the Arabs or the French or the U.N. or any other group that opposes the U.S. on a regular basis, I see no reason why we should be worried about or backing up Israel. We simply have no real policy reason to back them up, unless it's to irritate the heck out of every Arab nation around Israel--as if we need to frost the few 'friendly' nations that have the engine of our industrial base, oil.

In fact, most of Inhofe's logic can be used to justify a certain other group's claims:

Why Native Americans Are Entitled To The U.S.

Number One: All the archeological evidence supports it.
The second proof of Native Americans' right to the land is the historic right. History supports it totally and completely. We know there were Native Americans up until the time of the United States. The Colonists conquered the land. Natives had no homeland. They were driven from the land in multiple dispersions.
But there was always a Native American presence in the land, in city and county and state names, and the names of myriad other places.
The fourth reason I believe Native Americans have the right to the land is on the grounds of humanitarian concern. You see, there were innumerable Native Americans slaughtered or killed from epidemics introduced by colonists in the territory that is now the United States both before and during the majority of the colonists' arrival.
These Native American people have a right to their homeland. If we are not going to allow them a homeland of the United States, then where? What other nation on Earth is going to cede territory, is going to give up land?
They are not asking for a great deal. The whole continental United States would fit into Russia and Canada umpteen times.

I can't even start to twist Inhofe's 3rd, 5th and 6th comments in favor of Native Americans, but as to #7, if you want to tell me that God says any nation gets the so-called 'holy land,' why doesn't he give it to them? Why did he let the Romans take it, and why does the U.S. have to prop up Israel to the tune of billions of bucks in subsidies if God wants it? Surely He, in his omnipotent might, can handle it himself.

We have enough problems with the cursed Arab dictatorships that we don't need to go out of our way to create more. I don't dispute that they're more democratic than their neighbors or that there are a thousand reasons they are better than their neighbors, but I do seriously dispute the notion that we MUST do a darned thing for the people of any nation but our own.
9 posted on 12/01/2002 7:07:59 AM PST by LibertarianInExile
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The Myth Of The Palestinian People
10 posted on 12/01/2002 7:16:20 AM PST by Dallas
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To: SJackson
BUMP
11 posted on 12/01/2002 7:16:48 AM PST by knighthawk
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btt
12 posted on 12/01/2002 7:26:48 AM PST by Cacique
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To: nofriendofbills
Thanks for the post!
13 posted on 12/01/2002 7:30:24 AM PST by neutrino
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To: LibertarianInExile
Inhofe does not list the most important and obvious reason:: The right of conquest. Israel deserves the land because they have the power and the will to hold it.

No other right has anywhere near as much authority.

14 posted on 12/01/2002 7:30:38 AM PST by marktwain
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To: SJackson
Number Seven, I believe very strongly that we ought to support Israel; that she has a right to the land. This is the most important reason: Because God said so.

Bogus reason...And one which will keep the Middle East the cess pool of violence for eternity. Different people have different Religions. That's why we have the "Freedom of Religion" in the United States Constitution. It's funny how all the fundies forget that little fact when it suits their needs.

But then again, I believe the fundies are pushing this line of thinking just to bring about what they call Armageddon. Unfortunately, the rest of the world is going to have to pay for THEIR religious beliefs. Ironic how the fundies are the first to call Islam a "Gutter Religion" isn't it?

15 posted on 12/01/2002 7:33:26 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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THAT I do not argue with. The right of a nation-state to exist is only as good as its ability to control territory. A national government in exile isn't much of a nation all by itself.

But if you agree with that concept, in theory, you shouldn't have cared about Hussein taking Kuwait, either. I didn't. An awful lot of Freepers ended up on GHWB's side there.
16 posted on 12/01/2002 7:36:45 AM PST by LibertarianInExile
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To: marktwain
Inhofe does not list the most important and obvious reason:: The right of conquest. Israel deserves the land because they have the power and the will to hold it.

No other right has anywhere near as much authority.

Agreed!!!

It's too bad the Israelis didn't just complete the sweep back when they took control of the West Bank and Gaza...Get rid of all non-Jews. Of course then, they would have been compared to the Nazis...Which would be hard to argue against.

It's just too bad all this didn't happen back in the 1700's. No one would care today.

17 posted on 12/01/2002 7:37:50 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
"Gutter Religion"


Oh yes of course, Islam is the "Religion of Peace."

Now I get it.
18 posted on 12/01/2002 7:38:42 AM PST by Radix
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To: SJackson
Israel also has a legitamate right to the West Bank, golan Heights and the Sinai Peninsula. IMO
19 posted on 12/01/2002 7:43:15 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Radix
Oh yes of course, Islam is the "Religion of Peace."

Now I get it.

Boy...That nifty catch-phrase sure does get a work-out around here. Too bad it means nothing due to overuse.

Israeli settlements in U.N Mandated Palestine are "Peaceful" gestures?

Don't get me wrong...I support Israel 100%, specifically because they are the best of allies in an area where we deperately need allies. But due to both "Religions", the rest of the world suffers from terrorist activity. I resent that.

20 posted on 12/01/2002 7:53:50 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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