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FReepers Against Voter Fraud - (Thread 2)
November 29, 2002 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/29/2002 8:42:21 PM PST by sweetliberty

Since I am renewing this thread a little sooner than planned, I am leaving the original body of the thread in place and just making additions of references at this time. I think it is important to keep the statement of purpose and how we came to it at the forefront for now. Later on, as more people become aware of the thread and how it is set up, I will probably change it some and just give a link back to the original.

"The right of citizens to vote and have their vote count is the cornerstone of our democracy - the necessary precondition of government of the people, by the people and for the people. Enforcing the laws that guarantee voting rights and punish voting fraud is the duty of the Department of Justice. More than mere law enforcement, our responsibility to protect the access to and integrity of elections is the responsibility of upholding freedom itself.

America is a nation whose founding documents and most inspired words uphold the ideal of democratic self-government as a model for the world. The opening phrases of the Declaration of Independence declare that governmental power, if it is to be just, must be derived from the consent of the governed. The Constitution begins, purposefully and deliberately, with these three words: "We the people . . ."

America has failed too often to uphold the right of every citizen's vote, once cast, to be counted fairly and equally. Votes have been bought, voters intimidated and ballot boxes stuffed. The polling process has been disrupted or not completed. Voters have been duped into signing absentee ballots believing they were applications for public relief. And the residents of cemeteries have infamously shown up at the polls on election day.

Today, it is more important than ever before that we embrace the privilege that makes us unique among the peoples, nations and societies of human history. Our way of life is not a given, and our freedom is not an accident. Liberty is a rare gift for which millions have worked and suffered and sacrificed and died. It now falls to us to guard this gift from those who would destroy it. It falls to us, the free, to ensure that the cornerstone of our freedom - government of the people, by the people, and for the people - does not perish from the earth."

(Excerpted from remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft at the Voting Integrity Symposim - October 8, 2002)

LINK TO THREAD 1

It has been quite a month and overall a victorious one for Republicans. The new year looms bright on the horizon with the promise of much needed changes taking place now that we have the majority in both the House and Senate and with the opportunity to finally have some conservative judges seated who will uphold the Constitution rather than legislating the socialist agenda of the Democrats from the bench and Tiny Tommy Daschle and his obstructionist thugs have been spanked soundly and sent to their rooms.

While we had several days of delirious gloating, drunk on the thrill of a hard earned and well-deserved victory, we know all too well that the election and the events leading up to it were not without incident and once again the deck was stacked against us as the Democrats tried every trick in the book in yet another shameless effort at stealing an election. With the blatant disregard for the law so characteristic of them when it obstructs their designs, they managed to get a liberal kangaroo court to uphold the replacement of Torricelli on the ballot in New Jersey beyond the legal deadline for doing so for no other reason than having determined that the scandal and corruption surrounding Torricelli rendered him incapable of winning. In Minnesota, prior to Paul Wellstone's ill-fated final flight, a plan was uncovered that had Democrats busing in students from out of state to take advantage of Minnesota's same day voter registration to vote illegally for Paul Wellstone. Even as this was being revealed, the campaign was underway to push a similar same day registration legislation in Colorado and California, thereby opening new avenues for illegal voting in those states. In South Dakota Democrat operatives (sorry, I cannot bring myself to use the word "Democratic") paid a field worker in excess of $12,000 over a period of 3 months to register native Americans on the reservations. It was later discovered that many registration cards that had been turned in by that worker had been written in the same handwriting. Among the newly registered was at least one who was known to be recently deceased. This and other irreglarities that were uncovered in South Dakota has led to 1 out of 10 ballots there being under investigation. Fish need water, plants need sunshine, an addict needs a fix and Democrats need power and these three cases are just samples of the extent to which they will go to get it.

The idea for this thread was born following the Arkansas Hog Wild FReepers' discovery of organized intimidation tactics on the part of Democrat and NAACP operatives in Jefferson County, Arkansas as relayed by FReeper, stop_the_rats, a Republican poll watcher who gained undesired and unfair national notoriety during early voting, and by a Republican campaign worker who "infiltrated" the Clinton led, pre-election campaign "event" there. The original story was posted as part of the after-FReep report with more detail added in a post-election update. The story generated such outrage that the thread turned into a FReeper brainstorm as we labored over how we might counteract the dishonest methods employed by the Democrats to hijack elections. The effort yielded an abundance of references and it was generally agreed that voter fraud is, or at least should be, of great concern to all of us. There is a strong probability that the South Dakota election was stolen and in Arkansas the fraud machine was spinning out of control and may well have cost Tim Hutchinson his senate seat as well, despite the shadow cast over him in the wake of his divorce and remarriage. Chances are that we'll never know. Thankfully neither of these races ended up being the tie-breaker that would determine the balance of power in the Senate, but either could have been and had that been the case, you can bet it would have gotten really ugly and may have produced an entirely different result.

Even as the Democrats are still licking their wounds and wondering what on Earth happened on November 5, they are already scrambling and scheming and conniving as to ways to prevent our intercepting their next power grab in 2004. This is revealed in their ongoing efforts to block any attempt to validate a voter's legitimacy whether it be by requiring a legal form of ID at the polls, the repeal of motor voter legislation, cracking down on absentee balloting and early voting, doing away with same day registration or by the presence of poll watchers at polling places. In every case they play the race card crying "black voter intimidation" when in reality they are simply thrashing against the net that could trap those guilty of voting illegally thereby inhibiting travel on their familiar roads of voter fraud. Thankfully, Republicans were more diligent this year and undoubtedly made an impact. More questionable ballots were challenged, more questions raised, more accountability called for and more light shed on irregularities. Until recently, prosecution for voter fraud has been virtually unheard of, but that is starting to change. There have been hundreds of stories published over the past several weeks relating to voting irregularities and credible allegations of fraud. Some have led to criminal charges being filed and still others have led to investigations which are ongoing. While it is unlikely that all election fraud can be stopped, it is much harder for it operate under a spotlight, which is exactly why we must each do our part to make sure that the spotlight stays on those "shadowy" recesses where voting machines mysteriously vanish, ballot boxes are obscured from view and the demons of electoral darkness run amok.

It was suggested that the opening remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft be used as the basis of our mission statement for this thread. In these precarious times when we are at war and we are threatened daily by terrorism, our liberty has become more precious than ever and we must be vigilant to protect it not only from foreign invaders, but also from those who would erode it from within by compromising the integrity of our elections. In order to succeed in a battle it is essential to know the enemy and attack at his greatest point of vulnerability. Included here is a list of links, which while by no means exhaustive, can serve to enlighten the electorate. Many of these stories are from Arkansas only because this was the springboard for this thread and we look forward to other FReepers adding stories from their own areas as well as any based in personal experience. The original thread also produced a wealth of resources as we discussed who we should contact if we became aware of voting irregularities or suspected fraud. Again the list of links is far from comprehensive and additions are welcome. Of course the whole point of this exercise is to get more conservative voters involved in changing the laws to close loopholes which make it easy to cheat, to promote the enforcement of existing election laws and to take part in the election process at the local level all with the goal of intercepting future fraud campaigns. In other words our goal is to STOP THE RATS FROM HIJACKING THE ELECTION PROCESS AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

Many thanks to all the wonderful FReepers who contributed their time, energy and ideas to produce the foundation for this thread:

For their contributions of information and links, thank you to kcvl; kayak; zeaal; demosthenes the elder; terriergal; Brad's Gramma; Budge; TheLion; backhoe; ForGod'sSake; Congressman Billybob; nicmarlo; Ragtime Cowgirl; to ST.LOUIE1 for his graphics and of course to Jim Robinson who has given us this great forum and sense of purpose. A very special thanks and salute goes out to stop_the_rats for her patriotism and tenacity in facing down the enemy within. She is a warrior of whom we should be proud. What a great screen name AND battle cry for the mission of this thread!

On thread 2, I also want to thank Saundra Duffy, Mia T and mlmr for their alerting us to a couple more hot spots and also providing some additional information. Thank you to diotima, ffrancone, and Nick Danger for their efforts to move this campaign beyond Free Republic and disseminate information for public consumption. Updates on this effort will be posted regularly as well. Geist Krieger, has provided a very interesting and in depth analysis of methods of voting and their impact on our elections. If anybody has a means of storing a document for public access, please let me know and I will FReepmail it to you so that a link can be posted. It is quite long.

AWARENESS

KNOW THY ENEMY! If you're like me, you once had a naive trust in the integrity of our elections in America. All that changed for me though, with the election debacle of 2000 when it became readily apparent that Al Gore was trying to steal the presidency and his operatives were so desperate that they were doing it right in the face of the American people. I was absolutely furious but I believed that now that people could see the Clinton/Gore political machination for the shameless assault on America that it was, they would wake up and demand accountability from those responsible. I really wasn't prepared for seeing how many people would continue to perpetrate the lies the Democrats told even in the face of that fiasco and how many would continue to buy into them. Even after that I believed that surely, now that it was out in the open, something would be done to fix it before the next election. I also was not prepared to discover the extent to which voter fraud had woven its way into our political system like a burrowing parasite with expanding tentacles entwining themselves around the arteries of freedom. The sense of betrayal I have felt has been disheartening, to say the least, but it gave rise to the outrage that made me determined to try to do something about it. If you read even a few of these links, it will change forever the way you look at future elections and will hopefully encourage you to be part of the solution.

If any of these links become outdated many of these articles are posted in their entirity on the original FReep thread. If you let me know via FReepmail, I will make editorial adjustments accordingly before renewing the thread.

GENERAL ARTICLES ON VOTER FRAUD -

The Greatest Cover-up Of All: Vote Fraud In America

ELECTION FRAUD 2002 (Lots of links)

How Some Elections Are Stolen! (Lots of Links)

Controlling Fraud, Corruption and Unfair Practices

Voter Reform: Why Are Democrats Opposed To A Photo ID to Vote?

Should Georgia Adopt Early Voting? (Relates to Problems Associated with Early Voting)

An election scam

The Democrats Lost Ugly

Ghost Precincts

Vote Fraud: Will YOUR Vote Be Stolen This November?

Should We Take Voter Fraud as Seriously as Business Fraud?

Stopping Voter Fraud Made a BIG Difference!

Orgins of Modern Democrat FRAUD

Damn Dirty Democrats

Fraud a Part of Demos' Senate Strategy?

CASTING BALLOTS: GOP to have hundreds of spotters at polling sites

Bond Celebrates President's Signing of Anti-Vote Fraud Bill

Need Vote Fraud articles, stories, and evidence? Here's a source...

It's Voter Fraud Season Again!

The Vote Fraud Archives

The Nagging Problem of Election Fraud

More Is Better?

Democrats want to drop vote fraud plan, Bond says (Election "Reform")

Double Votes in 2000 Election

GOP Uncovers Democrat Vote Fraud

Bond's Debates Schumer Amendment that Undermines His Election Reform Bill

Too Easy to Steal: Why don't liberals want to stop voter fraud?

The Dangers of Voting outside the Booth

Testimony of Dr. Larry J. Sabato, Director University of Virgina Center for Governmental Studies Before The Committee on Rules and Administration United States Senate

The Motor Voter Act and Voter Fraud

Congress to establish voter-fraud task force: Nationwide investigation will 'put people in jail

How Democrats Steal Elections

Can we trust the vote count anywhere? In any race? In any election?

The Greenwood Position (Peggy Noonan)

Stalin-Like Contests

Voter Fraud Again!

Knock and Drag: Ryan Lizza reveals how Dems. got out the black vote

Voter Fraud! It Doesn’t Get Any More Blatant Than This !

American Apartheid

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WE KNOW THESE STATES HAVE PROBLEMS -

ALABAMA -

Vote Fraud Alleged in Alabama

Voter Fraud in Alabama Is a Proven Fact

Alabama Primary Challenge Goes Down in Flames

ARKANSAS -

Grand jury requested to delve into elections (Excerpt)

Arkansan pleads guilty in vote fraud

Looking Back On Tuesday's Election Problems

Arkansas - Democratic Party seeking injuction to keep polls open until 10:00 p.m. tonight

GOP to ask for probe of Phillips Co. voting

Scandal: Postal Exec Caught Using USPS Budget to Unseat GOP Senator

1,000 Republican Students Denied Right to Vote

Arkansas GOP charges vote fraud

FRAUD in Arkansas!!! Voters Illegally Casting Ballots 2 Weeks Early in Organized Effort by Dems

Voter Fraud in Arkansas

CALIFORNIA -

Elections Officials Hand Over Voter Info

State Assembly Race Still Too Close to Call and What's Up With Those MILITARY ballots?

Provisional ballots are questioned

Fresno judge halts counting of provisional ballots in close assembly race

United States Attorney Northern District of California

California Govervor's Race: A Democratic Party Art Form - Inventing Voters

Election fraud in Arvin, Ca -all who committed voter fraud got away with it in 2000 election"

CONNETICUT -

DUPLICATE VOTERS

FLORIDA -

Voters Accused of Double-Voting Attempt

Florida Saga Continues- Broward County "Finds" 104,000 Votes, Oliphant, "Only A Small Problem"

Voter fraud that's legal

Fears of Massive Illegal Ballots in Fla. - Again!

State attorney probes ballots

McBride Campaigns In Black Church -- IRS Violation?

165 Broward precincts lacked GOP staff, review finds

18 new voting machines go missing in Broward

Could It Be That Florida Democrats Are Too Stupid To Vote?

Black Republicans Suffered Worst in Florida Vote Count

Non-Voted Ballots and Discrimination in Florida

2,000 Floridians voted illegally Nov. 7

The Dimples Prove Fraud

"Explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach, Fl"

Democrats: Party Without a Conscience

Broward County Can't Count!!!

Voting Irregularities in Duval County

Downside Legacy on THE RECOUNT to 12/2/00 (More links to articles on 2000 election)

Felon For Gore: 2,000 Felons Voted for Gore in Florida alone

Exclusive: Recount Observers Tell NewsMax.com of Democrat Fraud

Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart: eye-witness account of Miami-Dade ballot fraud

Unstatesmanlike Conduct

How Gore and Chris Sautter Are Stealing Our Election and Our Country

DEMOCRAT MEMO ON HOW TO DISQUALIFY MILITARY VOTES

Palm Beach County "massive voter fraud is now evident"

Absentee Ballot Fraud among Democrats in Florida an Old Story

Missing Voting Mechanism Recovered

Evidence shows HOW the Palm Beach Democrats voided 15,000 Bush ballots, 3,400 Buchanan Ballots

Open Letter To Mark Levin - Statistical Proof Of Election Fraud

Al Gore's Class-Action : Trial lawyers try to litigate their man into the White House

INDIANA -

The law can be such a hassle sometimes: Or another example of how Rats steal elections

Absentee ballot requests seized; probe launched

KANSAS -

Democrats Urge Kansans to Vote Illegally

KENTUCKY -

Investigators monitor 17 counties across state

LOUISIANA -

Landrieu Redux ~ WSJ. '97

Two convicted of voter fraud get probation

They're Stealing the Election

Citizens For A Better America

MAINE -

RATS Stealing State Elections In Maine -- A Measured and Thoughtful Response

Hall Named Provisional Winner in Dist. 16 -- Fossel Withdraws Appeal -- New Strategy Revealed

Overt Disenfrancisement Condemned

DEMOCRATS REFUSE TO COUNT ALL THE VOTES

MARYLAND -

Maryland: 10,000 Republican Absentee Ballot ApplicationsTossed Out

Maryland Gov. Race: Polls Good for Ehrlich, Dem. Party Disenfranchises GOP Absentee Voters

MASSACHUSETTS -

Howie Carr - Photos and Video of RAT Voter Fraud in Massachusetts!

More Dem Fraud

Romney (R) Complains Of Voter Irregularities In Boston

MICHIGAN -

Detroit's voter rolls in question (too many registered)

MINNESOTA -

Scores use strip club as voter registration address

VOTE 2002: Taxpayers League says group backs voter fraud

MISSOURI -

Voter Fraud: Can It Be Stopped?

Democratic officials challenge rule on provisional voting (Missouri)

Most (Almost All) of the 3,000 registration cards turned in for next month's primary were fraudulent

St. Louis city voting extension raises questions

NEW HAMPSHIRE -

Don't use students to abuse elections

NEW YORK -

Hillary: Why I Oppose Stopping Election Fraud

2-BALLOT VOTERS FACE DOUBLE TROUBLE

NORTH CAROLINA -

Martin County elections board to discuss alleged vote buying

OKLAHOMA -

More allegations of vote fraud surface

Investigators Look Into Another Vote Fraud Case

Arrests made in voter fraud case (Oklahoma Dems Runoff)

PENNSYLVANIA -

Penn Researchers Document Large-Scale Voter Registration Problem

RHODE ISLAND -

Citizens Group Alleges Elections Fraud Group Says Non-Citizens, Immigrants Can Vote

SOUTH DAKOTA -

The Oglala Sioux's Senator

Let’s Hear It for Fraud – And REAL Soon

The Oglala Sioux's Democrat Vote Fraud Scheme Has A Familiar Ring

VOTER FRAUD ARREST TO BE MADE - SD

South Dakota Suspicions

Dead Men Voting

Arrest Expected in Voter Fraud Investigation

The New Democrat Plantation: A FR Roundup of Vote Fraud In South Dakota (Multiple Links)

Absentee forms found burned

Vote Fraud South Dakota Style - by the numbers

Dem Ethics? South Dakota Dems don’t acknowledge the importance of their voter-fraud problem

Daschle accuses Republicans of voter harassment

South Dakota Dem Hit with Vote Fraud Indictment

15 false absentee ballot applications found(in SD)and more may be coming

TEXAS -

A Poll Watchers Tale - Vote Fraud in Houston, Texas

Official raises concerns of voter fraud in Hidalgo County (Heart of DemocratCounrty in Texas).

WASHINGTON D.C. -

D.C. MAYOR WILLIAMS CANNOT BE ON THE BALLOT! (MORE DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD!)

WISCONSIN -

Democratic Vote Fraud in Wisconsin Gov. Race

ACCESS

In order to effect changes it is important to have channels through which we can make our voice heard. One reason the Democrats get away with as much as they do is because they make a lot of noise. It is time WE make some noise of our own. There are a number of individuals, organizations and media sources who support our Constitution and seek to protect the integrity of our elections. Here are a few of them. Rather than clutter the body of this thread with a long list of email addresses, I will post the websites. Most of these have contacts and email addresses on them. While I have not listed any here, it is important to keep in mind that just because a source is on the opposing side doesn't mean that they can't still be used to our advantage. Consider this parable of Jesus.

"In a certain city there was a judge who did not fear God and did not respect man. "There was a widow in that city, and she kept coming to him, saying, 'Give me legal protection from my opponent.' "For a while he was unwilling; but afterward he said to himself, 'Even though I do not fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow bothers me, I will give her legal protection, otherwise by continually coming she will wear me out.'" (Luke 18: 2-5)

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INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS AND MEDIA SOURCES

Department of Justice Voting Rights Home Page

FBI

American Conservative Union

Eagle Forum

Eagle Forum of Arkansas

The Heritage Foundation

ACLJ

Fox News

Drudge Report

Rush Limbaugh

Hugh Hewitt

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ELECTION LAW

Election laws and practices vary widely from state to state, and therein lies part of the problem. In order to address the issues we need first to know what the law, as it currently exists is and work within it and where applicable work to see that it is enforced. Second, you will come to discover that many of the opportunities for fraud are born from flaws in the laws themselves, in which case we need to work on getting those laws changed. Below is a very brief list of some election laws and guidelines which we have referenced recently. I am sure this section will grow considerably as others add their contributions.

ELECTION LAWS, RULES, GUIDELINES

Arkansas Election Code

Arkansas Election Faqs

State Requirements For Voter ID

Texas Pollwatcher's Guide

Vote Fraud and Election Issues (Lots of Links)

Limitations On Lawyers

Reporting Unlicensed Lawyers

2002 Florida Statutes

Florida Voter Fraud Issues

Proposition 52 Dealing With Voter Fraud in California

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GENERAL REFERENCE

List of U.S. Counties

National Association of Counties

Online Newspapers

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ACTION

What can FReepers do? For starters we can identify states that will have key races in the 2004 election. Is your state one of them? Are there known problem precincts in YOUR county? Let's start getting important information about the race, the candidates, the electoral history of the state, the laws in that state and how open they may leave the process to tampering, history of voter fraud in the state, conservative media outlets there, and whatever else you can think of that might be relevant to equip the electorate to head off problems in advance.

Democrats LIE! Their biggest and most effective lie is that Republicans are deliberately trying to prevent blacks and/or other minorities from voting. In effect, they're calling us racists. The truth is that it is them who seem to consider blacks and other minorities so inferior and ignorant and lacking in initiative that they are incapable of voting without the benefit of THEIR (the Democrats') "guidance" and "protection". They squeal "intimidation" at every opportunity and intimidation certainly comes into play. The real question is "who is doing the intimidating?" Their greatest fear is that blacks will recognize how badly they've been duped and insulted by these people and leave the party in droves. That can work in our favor if we work with it. Black conservatives have perhaps the greatest responsibility for telling other black voters the truth about the Democrat party, although it is certainly something we should all work on. Independent thought is the enemy of the Democrats.

Talk about election fraud. Bring it up whenever an opportunity presents itself. Keep a notebook at all times and if someone tells you anything pointing to vote fraud, get more details. Write down such things as county, precinct, candidates in the race, name of the witness and whatever else you can think of. If it seems credible, report it to someone, then follow it up and find out what, if anything, was done with the information.

Have your elected officials, city attorneys, election officers and judges in your email address book, your regular address book and on speed dial. When you become aware of a credible allegation of voter fraud, get busy and push for them to prosecute offenders very publicly and to the FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW! If a few people are seen to be doing time for their electoral indiscretions, observers may be less willing to follow suit.

Rally others and spend election day in parking areas of and near problem polling places at ready with notebook and camera. A favorite technique of Democrats is to load up buses full of paid voters and haul them from precinct to precinct to cast multiple votes. Getting license numbers of these buses and observing them closely could yield enough evidence to prove fraud. Note or photograph anything "out of the ordinary".

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." (Josef Stalin)

Take part in the process. Here is a list of suggestions that stop_the_rats posted on another thread:

1. Plan to take election day off in 2004.
2. Be a poll worker. You get paid for this.
3. Be a poll watcher. Call your local Republican headquarters or the campaign office of one of your Republican candidates and volunteer to be a poll watcher.
4. Count absentee ballots. You get paid for this also.
5. Be a poll closer. It's a long day. Some people who can't poll watch because of work, could agree to come after work for 2 hours and close the polls to give poll watchers a break. Get final counts and make sure no "late" voters turn up.
6. Take lunches to poll workers and poll watchers.
7. Man the headquarters so if problems arise, poll workers or watchers have a place to call for help. Have a list of numbers: local election officals, state officals.
8. Find a person who will agree to "be in charge"of all the rules poll watchers and poll workers need to follow. Each state has rules and in some cases, state election representatives will come to your city and give a presentation.
9. Encourage others to get involved.
10. Smile; we have them worried!

Some might want to take it a step furthur, if that is an option in your area, and be an election judge. Or you may have specific talents and training that you could donate to the cause, such as legal assistance and advice.

Finally; ask questions. FReepers have an uncanny ability to ask the right questions in most any situation AND to find answers and we have an inexhaustable resource right here on Free Republic. Here are just a few questions to start with.

"If fraud is suspected, how do we find out who is behind it?"

"How do we work to get cooperation between poll watchers and workers and clarify expectations on all sides BEFORE an election?"

"How can you prove fraud? What is legal in a given state (photos, tape recording, witness statements, compiling a list of names, video taping) and how can these techniques be implemented in a non-obtrusive way?"

How limiting is jurisdiction on working in some capacity at the polls? This may vary from state to state. For example, during the training for counting absentee ballots in Pulaski County, Arkansas, I was told that to be a poll worker or to count ballots, you had to be a resident of the county in which you served, but that a poll watcher could be from anywhere as long as he or she was authorized by the candidate or party. This could be very useful to pursue. In the 2002 election, in spite of all the Rat hype, there was still a shortage of Republican poll watchers in a number of "problem" locations. There were also quite a few FReepers who expressed a desire to do something, but there were no particular problems in their own areas. If we can, in fact, be poll watchers anywhere, that may have great potential for wider coverage of historically fraud prone precincts in future elections.

And last, but certainly not least, pray!

"If My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14)

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord" (Psalm 33:12a)

FReepers; your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get out there and STOP THE RATS!

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As information has been posted, I have been keeping track of counties that have a history of voting "irregularities" and/or blatant fraud or in which there is legal action currently pending. From that information I have generated a county "watch list". This is not only to alert those seeking to combat the voter fraud travesty, but also to put those responsible for it on notice that the game is up and the heat is on. This list will no doubt grow as more cases come to light, and by all means, if you know of such concerns in your local areas, alert this thread and have the offending county "hot listed". It is the contributions of FReepers that will make this effort work!

ALERT!

COUNTIES ON THE WATCH LIST!

ALABAMA -

Greene County
Hale County

ARKANSAS -

Clark County
Jefferson County
Phillips County
Pulaski County

CALIFORNIA-

Fresno County
Kern County

Conneticut -

New Haven County

FLORIDA -

Broward County
Duvall County
Lake County
Miami-Dade County
Orange County
Osceola County
Palm Beach County
Seminole County
Volusia County

INDIANA -

Marion County

LOUISIANA-

East Baton Rouge Parish
Orleans Parish

MAINE -

Cumberland County
Lincoln County

MARYLAND -

Baltimore County
Montgomery County
Prince George's County

MASSACHUSETTS -

Suffolk County

MICHIGAN -

Wayne County

MINNESOTA -

Dakota County

MISSOURI -

St. Louis - city

NEW HAMPSHIRE -

Stafford County

NORTH CAROLINA -

Martin County

OKLAHOMA -

Haskell County

SOUTH DAKOTA -

Bennett County
Codington County
Dewey County
Minnehaha County
Pennington County
Shannon County
Ziebach County

TEXAS -

Harris County
Hidalgo County

WISCONSIN -

Kenosha County
Milwaukee County
Washington County
Waukesha County

The following states have been pinged, which means if your state's flag isn't flying, then FReepers in your state have not yet been alerted! The flags are posted in the order the states were pinged. It would be nice to have a representative FReeper from each state, particularly those states that are "fraud zones". If anyone would be willing to represent your state on this thread on a regular basis, please let me know and I will begin a list of FReeper contacts for each state.



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To: nicmarlo
Your #458. My thought too.
461 posted on 01/31/2003 5:41:22 AM PST by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: sweetliberty
By all means put or keep me on your voter fraud ping list.

Am convinced a lot of this needs on FREEPCARDS.

UHHHH IT'S SUCH A MASS OF DATA.

WHAT in your experienced perceptions with it all--would be the 5-7 most outrageous, clear-cut--unarguable 3X5 card sized portions to FIRST put on cards???

Would greatly appreciate your insights.

Blessings,
462 posted on 01/31/2003 9:36:48 AM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Quix
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking for. This enormous collection of information is geared toward zeroing in on the hottest of the fraud hot spots and focusing our energies accordingly.
463 posted on 01/31/2003 10:10:11 AM PST by sweetliberty (Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it)
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To: sweetliberty
I'm strongly convinced that we can get MORE word out in snippets--such as 3X5 card sizes than we can passing out even 1 page documents to people.

Particularly so if we stick a handful in our pockets/purses daily and give them out as seems wisely fitting.

The mass of information you have collected is wonderful. But so far, 2 other people have agreed to condense material and one has delivered. I do have other things to do as well. But I chip away at the monumental task.

I condense the more impactful documents, portions to 3X5 card size and format them in Word. I haven't yet learned to do it adequately in html. I'm happy to send Word formatted FREEPCARD files to people I or someone I trust knows to be authentically conservative in values.

As I contemplate your mass of data, I wonder what would be the 5-7 or 3-5 MOST, MOST, MOST IMPORTANT, IMPACTFUL, CRUCIAL 3x5 CARD SIZED COLLECTION OF FACTS to FIRST put on FREEPCARDS. That is--3-5 or 5-7 groups of sentences that would fit, each group on a 3X5 card front and back.

I'M CONVINCED you'd be the best judge of that.

Is that clear? If not, am willing to try again.

Blessings,
464 posted on 01/31/2003 1:54:15 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: sweetliberty
The 5-7 groups of sentences don't have to CURRENTLY fit on a 3X5 card. But it would be good if you could ESTIMATE that they would if condensed fittingly.

Alternately, you could just suggest 5-7 pages from your mass of data.

Thanks.
465 posted on 01/31/2003 1:55:41 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Quix
Okay, now I see where you're going. I will give it some thought. Thanks.
466 posted on 01/31/2003 2:00:12 PM PST by sweetliberty (Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it)
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To: sweetliberty
Michigan - Add Ingham, Genesee, and Saginaw counties as well. Buena Vista Township has had major troubles one time. East Lansing(Ingham) is another major problem spot with shenanigans(Byrum tried to steal an election there against Rogers who won). Genesee County(Flint) is where Debbie Stabusall found a way to win in 2000.
467 posted on 01/31/2003 2:21:42 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (I feel the need...for speed!!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Do you have links to any of the articles or other source material regarding specific instances?
468 posted on 01/31/2003 2:27:42 PM PST by sweetliberty (Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it)
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To: TheLion
The indictments were among the first actions taken by the state’s new attorney general, Michael Cox

That's a big reason why AG elections arso important. Mike's a republican.

469 posted on 01/31/2003 3:11:17 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (I feel the need...for speed!!!!)
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To: sweetliberty
YEA! THANKS.
470 posted on 01/31/2003 3:19:01 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: sweetliberty
In the case of Saginaw and Genesee, I don't have anything online links, but I heard from inside sources(I was a poll challenger in 2002) that stuff was caught there.

Ingham County

Byrum may want REVOTE, dems whine about voters turned away

East Lansing ballot boxes not sealed

Revote???(Didn't happen BTW)

Voter refusal

471 posted on 01/31/2003 3:32:44 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (I feel the need...for speed!!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Thanks.
472 posted on 01/31/2003 3:47:01 PM PST by sweetliberty (Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it)
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To: Dan from Michigan
You are so right....all elections are important! We have to work from the ground up! The Rats control local political machinery in many places and are basically free to do what they want.
473 posted on 01/31/2003 4:35:08 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Dan from Michigan
Thanks for the links!
474 posted on 01/31/2003 4:36:11 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Budge
You got it....."Actually, so do the RATS".....they know exactly what they are doing!

They will do anything to keep confusion reigning!
475 posted on 01/31/2003 4:38:55 PM PST by TheLion
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To: nicmarlo; sweetliberty
"Why is it only now they are pursuing and indictment?".....good question.

Is it because we have gained some new seats in Nevada?


476 posted on 01/31/2003 4:42:30 PM PST by TheLion
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To: sweetliberty
I didn't realize that Kern County, California is on the voter fraud list.

We in many parts of this county have no choice other than to vote by Absentee Ballot.

A couple of years ago I called the county clerk in Bakersfield and she assured me that the Absentee Ballots were counted first. Now I am not so sure.

477 posted on 01/31/2003 4:45:58 PM PST by blackbart1
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To: Budge; sweetliberty; nicmarlo
In a non-Rat world (paradise), absentee ballots should be sequentially numbered, with each requested voter being assigned a number when he requests a ballot, so it can be later verified. The registration should be authenticated prior to the absentee ballot being given to or mailed to a voter.

Further, only proven handicapped, overseas personnel, etc. should even be allowed to vote absentee.

The absentee ballot, as I have previously stated is used by the Rats to scam the system....big time!
478 posted on 01/31/2003 4:49:20 PM PST by TheLion
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To: sweetliberty; nicmarlo; Budge
California:

More Demowackery in the name of getting more people to vote. Aren't they just wonderful people. What they are really doing is trying to make the election proscess even more subject to vote fraud.

Online Voting May Be Reality For Spring ASUC Elections


By STEPHANIE LEE
Contributing Writer
Friday, January 31, 2003

Voting in this spring's student elections could be as simple as a click of a button, but only if the ASUC Senate can work out a few glitches.

Talk of voting on the Internet was a central issue at Wednesday's ASUC meeting.

In next week's meeting, senators will debate a bill that will allow for at-home voting in the general election this spring.

If the bill passes, UC Berkeley will be the last UC to implement the voting procedure.

Elections Chair Tommaso Sciortino plans to submit the bill within the next few weeks.

If senators give it the green light, students will have the opportunity to vote online beginning this spring.

A survey from the Office of Student Life found that more than 75 percent of students support Internet voting.

Despite overwhelming support from students, some senators are hesitant to support the bill.

Citing voter fraud and the impossible task of regulating campaign restrictions near polling places, opponents of the bill said it would take convincing before offering support to this proposal.

ASUC rules prohibit candidates from campaigning within 100 feet of polling sites.

"The question is, will candidates pressure voters as they vote?" said APPLE Senator Misha Leybovich.

Ironically, with one of the world's top schools of computer science, UC Berkeley could be better off without Internet voting.

"At a place like this, the temptation to hack in would be almost irresistible," said political science professor Raymond Wolfinger, who attended a national conference on Internet voting last year.

"At (UC Berkeley), nothing would be more tempting than to foul up an ASUC election," he said. "And the penalty of hacking is catastrophic."

Despite this, many senators support at-home elections because they will allow and motivate many more students to participate in campus elections.

"It will give students the chance to work around their busy schedules," said Student Action Senator Taz Patel. "When we have (at-home) elections, it'll be more accessible."

Sciortino estimates that nearly 8,500 students voted in last spring's general elections. He would like to see that number increase by at least 1,000 votes.

The elections committee said the online system will not be implemented until it is determined secure through a password system that uses student identification numbers and passphrases.

Even if the bill does not garner enough support from the senate, it could still be implemented.

If a group puts the issue on a petition and gathers 1,000 student signatures, at-home voting could be added to the constitution with a 60 percent majority vote.

Whether or not the senate votes in favor of Internet voting, this spring marks the first time students will use computers, rather than pencils, to vote.

"This year is kind of a culmination of what we've been doing for the past two years," Sciortino said.

In the past, the elections committee has used computers to count student ballots.

Now students will be able to input their responses using a keyboard.

Sciortino sees this shift in voting procedure as a way to cut down human error. If a student incorrectly fills out the ballot, the computer will alert the voter of his mistake.

The ASUC Senate passed the computer voting bill last May.

"I think the days of the paper and pencil have gone the way of the dinosaur," Leybovich said. "I think everyone agrees that computers are better than paper or pencil."

There will be approximately 11 on-campus polling sites offered at this year's election.

Five more will be included at every dining hall and at the International House, Leybovich added.

The elections committee will determine how many computer stations will be offered at each polling place based on estimated voter turnout at each site.
http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=10725

479 posted on 01/31/2003 5:01:10 PM PST by TheLion
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To: blackbart1
The absentee ballot is undoubtedly one of the biggest loopholes available to the cheating Rats, and having counted absentee ballots in the last election, nearly a fourth of which were challenged, I am more convinced of it than ever and I am sorry to say that I have zero faith in the process.

You have no choice but to vote absentee?? Why is that? In my opinion, nobody should even be allowed to vote absentee that cannot show good cause. Military obviously have no choice, and procedures for college students should be somewhat standardized. People who have to be away on business or for family reasons or due to serious illness or hospitalization, and some who are handicapped also have valid reason. But just for the convenience, no. I don't think that is acceptable. Too many variables. This is what has happened here as a result of mailout campaigns actually soliciting requests for absentee ballots...a very bad idea.

480 posted on 01/31/2003 5:04:55 PM PST by sweetliberty (Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it)
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