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Bin Laden tape a fake, Swiss lab says
The Toronto Star (Canada) ^ | Nov. 28, 2002. 06:23 PM | AP

Posted on 11/28/2002 6:02:05 PM PST by FreedomCalls

Scientists compared recording to 20 other tapes of terror chief

PARIS (AP) - The latest audiotape statement attributed to accused terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden is not authentic, a Swiss research institute said. The Lausanne-based Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence said it is 95-per-cent certain the tape does not feature the voice of the long-absent terrorist leader.

The review of the tape was commissioned by France-2 television and its findings were presented by the institute's Professor Herve Boulard in a special TV report shown late Thursday.

He said the institute compared the voice on the tape, first aired two weeks ago on Al-Jazeera, an Arabic television network, with some 20 earlier recordings of bin laden.

U.S. experts maintain the tape will likely never be fully authenticated because its poor quality defies complete analysis by even the most sophisticated voice-print technology.

But U.S. experts who have heard it generally support the conclusion by U.S. law-enforcement officials that it probably is bin Laden speaking.

In the tape, the speaker refers to recent terrorist strikes U.S. officials believe are connected to bin Laden's Al Qaeda network. If fully verified, it would provide the first evidence in a year that bin Laden survived U.S. bombing in Afghanistan.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; binladen; osama; terror
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To: AmericaUnited
LOL! Like minds!
41 posted on 11/28/2002 6:32:47 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: arkady_renko
There is not enough air in Bin Laden's entire body to generate a dry fart...
Semper Fi
42 posted on 11/28/2002 6:33:32 PM PST by river rat
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To: FreedomCalls
I still *THINK* it was a computer generated thing using his speech patterns to refine a native speaker already a lot like Bin Laden.
43 posted on 11/28/2002 6:37:19 PM PST by Quix
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To: FreedomCalls
I have always felt that Bin Laden was dead.

I also always hoped that we would never come to that conclusion, as long as we have to convince Liberals and their allies that we need to be serious about the War on Terror.

If there is another attack on the US, we dont need everyone thinking that we have to start from scratch with a new villain. We are better off no knowing.

It would not surprise me if the Government knows that he's dead, but wont pass on that information. We need to justify defense spending, the missile shield, the F-22, and a bunch of other programs. Having a bad-guy around is fine with me if it keeps Liberal mouths shut.

44 posted on 11/28/2002 6:37:39 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: CFC__VRWC
I don't know about that. If anything, Republicans stood to gain more politically if OBL was still alive since that would reinforce their national security agenda. Look at it this way. Republicans sweep the government, sign the homeland security bill that essentially destroys the 4th ammendment, and decide that OBL just might be dead after all. hmmmmm
45 posted on 11/28/2002 6:42:03 PM PST by modern_orthodox
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To: ConservativeMan55
SEE HIM HOLDING A NY TIMES WITH TODAY'S DATE, THAT YOU BOUGHT AND HANDED HIM IN PERSON.
46 posted on 11/28/2002 6:43:10 PM PST by Quix
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To: FreedomCalls
Agree; and I hope it was a deservably miserable death.
47 posted on 11/28/2002 6:43:58 PM PST by katze
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To: FreedomCalls
[Cue Doctor McCoy clip from the typical Star Trek episode] "It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim!"
48 posted on 11/28/2002 6:50:49 PM PST by Orangedog
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To: FreedomCalls
Great. The entire US Government has just been shown-up by a 90-year-old cuckoo clock maker in the Alps...
49 posted on 11/28/2002 6:50:59 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Bin Laden is as dead as Al Gore
50 posted on 11/28/2002 6:52:57 PM PST by woofie
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To: pabianice
We (the Bush administration) have no problem with people thinking Osama is alive ....It helps us catch his followers ...and it makes the Democrats look like fools
51 posted on 11/28/2002 6:55:14 PM PST by woofie
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To: FreedomCalls
I wish they (experts and gov't types) would all just ignore all tapes and call his bluff. If he's alive, then HE has to prove it, otherwise just go on the assumption that we killed him. Period!
52 posted on 11/28/2002 6:56:10 PM PST by Exit148
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To: woofie
Wow! Now that's some "deadness".
53 posted on 11/28/2002 6:57:38 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: FreedomCalls
He died in a cave at Tora Bora like we all presumed.

That is my best guess as well.

Unfortunately even if his head was on a pike in Manhattan, there are those who would claim he was alive and the head was a fake.

54 posted on 11/28/2002 6:57:48 PM PST by LibKill
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To: AmericaUnited
I agree with you 100%. An Iraqi forgery designed and timed perfectly to take heat off Saddam. Many experts claimed it was odd that Bin laden mentioned the iraqis in the statement. That was also added for Saddams benefit.
55 posted on 11/28/2002 7:00:05 PM PST by knak
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To: FreedomCalls
I normally don't agree with folks from Switzerland BUT... If Mr Laden was alive, he would surely be airing an audio or video once a week to further the jihad against the people he hates. For him to produce a video tape stating that he is, in fact, alive and has beaten the enemy would garner much support with the goofballs that he associates with. Maybe he has retreated to Palestine and is one of the idiots throwing rocks there?????? The BIG question is, how can a low-life from a third world country affect the world this way? With all of the wisdom from the college educated folks who lead us in Washington, London, Moscow (they are our friends now), Madrid, Rome, and many other capitals, how is it that this rich cave man can be allowed to threaten the world this way? You tell me.
56 posted on 11/28/2002 7:04:23 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: FreedomCalls
All I can hear clearly on that tape is Amelia Earhart's airplane engine running in the background.
57 posted on 11/28/2002 7:09:00 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: steve-b
Point well-taken. Good comment!
58 posted on 11/28/2002 7:11:25 PM PST by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: japaneseghost
fyi

The guy's dead.

59 posted on 11/28/2002 7:12:12 PM PST by annflounder
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To: LibKill
Well of course we will!

Islamic murderors think he is their hero.We will continue to list him as alive and the #1 target on our list for our own purposes.ie- he is in Iraq-BOOM.

in Yemin-BOOM

in Saudi Arabia-BOOM

in North Korea-BOOM, etc....

Nothing of War is "fun" for those who must actually conduct it, except the propoganda.Watching an enemy succumb to mind games is the only thing remotely considered "fun".

Don't be a spoilsport!LOL

I think I heard Osama was in France.....

60 posted on 11/28/2002 7:17:37 PM PST by sarasmom
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