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DEMOCRATS REFUSE TO COUNT ALL THE VOTES
Rich Galen ^ | 11/27/02 | Rich Galen

Posted on 11/27/2002 10:59:10 AM PST by Greek

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MULLINGS An American Cyber-Column

Remember the Maine!

Rich Galen Wednesday November 27, 2002

* One does not have to reach back very far in history to remember the hue and cry of the Democratic Party: COUNT ALL THE VOTES!

* Notwithstanding the fact that when just about every news organization on the planet actually counted the ballots, George W. Bush STILL won Florida, the Dems – to this very day – pretend they were cheated out of the Presidency because they weren’t permitted to COUNT ALL THE VOTES!

* Now, we come to Maine. Quiet, back-woodsy, yup-and-nope terse down-East Yankee Maine. Where lobsters were invented. Where there are two seasons: Fourth of July and Winter.

* Maine, where -- (Oh, Rich? We get it. Uncle Bill is already in his cups and the turkey is done. We have GOT to get to the point, here.)

* Right. The Maine State Senate is comprised of 35 members. Following all the counting there was one seat still in play: Democrat Chris Hall v. Republican Leslie Fossel.

* The Maine Senate is split 17-17. This one seat will decide control.

* The two candidates are nine votes apart: 8,893 for the Democrat; 8,884 for the Republican.

* According to the Portland Press-Herald there are still 44 ballots to be counted.

* The Democrats have refused to count any more votes and the state Supreme Court has ruled that, under state law, each legislative body has the responsibility to decide election disputes.

* Imagine, in 2002, a state Supreme Court adhering to established law? Haven’t these people ever heard of New Jersey?

* According to retiring Senate Republican Leader, Mary Small, the ballots have been examined, but NOT COUNTED. If they were to COUNT ALL THE VOTES, Fossel would win.

* Some examples of the disputes: - There are 11 ballots which were marked in blue or black pen, rather than in the required pencil. There is no other dispute over these ballots. They break for the Republican 8-3. Ballots which were marked with RED pen – but which broke evenly – were allowed. Fossel down 4.

- There are seven other ballots on which the voters circled or underlined their choices. The all-important intent of the voter is not in dispute. These break for the Republican 6-1. Fossel up 1.

- Two more ballots have stray (but not identifying) marks. 2-zip for the GOP. Fossel up 3.

- Assorted other dribs and drabs, according to Senator Small, would boost that total to five.

* But they will not be counted. THEY WILL NOT BE COUNTED!

* Where is the outrage? Where are the cheering, jeering crowds led by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton? Where is Terry McAuliffe?

* Say, where IS Terry McAuliffe?

* The Democrat will be sworn in on December 4, and the Democrats will have an 18-17 majority.

* The Republicans will offer a resolution disputing the seating of the Democrat, which will lose 18-17 with the disputed Senator voting for himself.

* The President of the Senate will appoint a task force to look into the election. It will have one more Democrat than Republican. It will decide the election is fair and final. But it will not COUNT ALL THE VOTES.

* In 1984 there was an infamous case of a contested Congressional election in Indiana’s Eighth District. The Republican won on election day by 34 votes. The Democrats, who already had a 71-seat majority, refused to seat the Republican, appointed a task force (2- 1 Democratic), and conducted a recount which lasted until the Democrat got ahead. The Democrats then stopped counting and declared the election over. _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________

* It was that act which legitimized the claim of a young, firebrand, back-bencher from Georgia, Newt Gingrich that the Democrats – who had controlled the U.S. House for three decades – were nothing short of a band of thugs.

* That power play by the Democrats was the shot heard ‘round the Capitol. Four years later Gingrich was elected Republican Whip five years after that he was Speaker.

* Senator Small said what the Democrats were doing was “unethical and immoral, but probably not illegal.”

* So, if you ever think the GOP is being unfair to the Democrats in Congress: Remember the Maine.


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To: Greek
They should take it to the US Supreme Court and bitch about constitutional violations if they really care.
21 posted on 11/27/2002 2:22:05 PM PST by scannell
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To: sasquatch
Okay then turn them out as breeding objects when the Moose are in full rut! We can throw the Petaits in with them to enjoy the full rutting experience from an adult Bull Moose!
22 posted on 11/27/2002 2:39:08 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Coop
Scum dem bump!
23 posted on 11/27/2002 2:52:40 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: nicmarlo
I thought so, too.

There are still some ornery Yankees left.

24 posted on 11/27/2002 3:12:35 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Greek
I was hoping that all the stupid voters were in Florida or New Jersey, but it seems that threr are some who can't make the x, or the check where they are told to place it. As for the use of pens, why ca't we use the damn pencils that are provided. None of the pens should count. This state is screwing itself for another four years.
25 posted on 11/27/2002 3:15:46 PM PST by brooklin
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To: Grampa Dave
Okay then turn them out as breeding objects when the Moose are in full rut!

That'd be GREAT!!
26 posted on 11/27/2002 5:17:34 PM PST by sasquatch
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To: Greek; SheLion
SheLion use your considerable talents to do something about this travesty.
27 posted on 11/27/2002 5:29:38 PM PST by Ditter
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To: sasquatch
Where's the outrage?

I wonder if Snow or Collins have even expressed an opinion?

28 posted on 11/27/2002 5:39:12 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: Greek


( ....if #2 Pencils were required...then these votes
shouldn't count.... per Bush V Gore......Rules are rules...)

When Snowe and COllins retire ....Rats will be the next Senators from ME.
29 posted on 11/27/2002 6:04:06 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Torie; Free the USA; deport; ambrose
P>S ....These votes shouldn't count...
Rules are that voters should circle their choice with a #2 pencil..

Sounds like the voters didn't follow the directions = these voters are worthless....
unless ME law says that.... Dimples, Pingles,Ringles...should be counted
30 posted on 11/27/2002 6:09:43 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Greek
IT's all over....


Republican drops appeal in Senate race
By PAUL CARRIER, Portland Press Herald Writer

Copyright © 2002 Blethen Maine Newspapers Inc.
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AUGUSTA — The Republican candidate in a hotly contested state Senate race has abandoned a court fight to prevent his Democratic opponent from being seated, ensuring that Christopher Hall of Bristol will be sworn in Dec. 4 as the senator from District 16. Once Hall takes the oath, the Democrats will control the Senate by a one-vote margin, 18-17. And they will gain an even tighter grip on the state's political system, because Democrats hold a majority of the seats in the incoming House of Representatives and Gov.-elect John Baldacci is a Democrat.

It will be the first time in 16 years that one party has held the Blaine House and both houses of the Legislature. The last time it happened was in 1986, when Democrat Joseph Brennan was in his eighth and final year as governor and his party ran the Legislature.
http://www.pressherald.com/news/statehouse/021127recount.shtml
31 posted on 11/27/2002 6:19:52 PM PST by KQQL
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To: KQQL
Maine is wierd.(nothing to follow)
32 posted on 11/27/2002 6:31:06 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: KQQL
So why does red pen count? There is something missing from this story. Abandoning the court challenge simply doesn't make sense. The votes were hand counted but then not counted. Weird.
33 posted on 11/27/2002 6:37:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: KQQL
These votes shouldn't count... Rules are that voters should circle their choice with a #2 pencil..

I would agree, except the dems DID accept some votes when ink was used:

Ballots which were marked with RED pen – but which broke evenly – were allowed. Fossel down 4.

Either allow all of the votes where a pen was used...or none.

34 posted on 11/27/2002 6:42:18 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: metesky
GAG ME NOW!!!!!

DemocRATS

35 posted on 11/27/2002 6:53:58 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Torie
Because Red Pen Marked ballots broke evenly –

But other broke for the GOP....
Don't forget ..
Red pen marks are as good as the # 2 pencil...that's the law of Ratoville,USA
36 posted on 11/27/2002 7:17:16 PM PST by KQQL
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To: cyncooper
Red pen marks are as good as the # 2 pencil...that's the law of Ratoville,USA

However , the Black/blue and other ink colors favors the right wing voters....hence they are bad colors....
Bottom line............The RATS in ME senate got lucky ..
37 posted on 11/27/2002 7:21:34 PM PST by KQQL
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To: KQQL
LOL

Thanks for clearing THAT up!
38 posted on 11/27/2002 7:29:15 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: EternalVigilance
*ping

For this to go on without a blowup, there has gotta be a handful of pubbies who are fronting for the Dems. RINO-RATS

39 posted on 11/27/2002 8:18:20 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: KQQL
The only good DEMOCRAT is a CHEATING,LYING,NO GOOD S.B.
40 posted on 11/27/2002 8:33:31 PM PST by flamingbug
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