Posted on 11/21/2002 11:50:10 AM PST by Ready2go
CIA Releases New 'Noah's Ark' Documents Posted Nov. 13, 2002 By Timothy W. Maier
Is it the Ark, or just a piece of rock?
Two years after Insight filed an appeal charging that the CIA withheld documents and imagery concerning the Mount Ararat anomaly in Turkey, the CIA has released two new documents to Insight that indicate the search for "Noah's Ark" reached the level of the White House under former president George H.W. Bush.
The appeal, filed one month after Insight's exclusive story (see "Anomaly or Noah's Ark?"; Nov. 20, 2000), comes on the heels of the CIA's releasing thousands of satellite images, which soon will be available at National Imagery and Mapping Agency Website. It is unclear whether images of Mount Ararat will be included. Insight's exclusive story marked the first time the public was able to see high-resolution photographs of the anomaly, located at 39 degrees 42 minutes north latitude and 44 degrees 16 minutes east longitude. Insight contracted with Space Imaging to maneuver its IKONOS satellite to zoom in on the anomaly. Afterwards, Insight hired a team of scientists and engineers to examine the pictures and to deterimine whether the object in question was man-made or rock. Four of the experts claim it's man-made, two believe it's rock and one says the evidence is inconclusive.
Unfortunately, the release of the additional records does not offer any more proof of what the object might be, but only raises more questions as to why the CIA continues to hold such records as classified.
One of the records released is a 1995 memo from an agent who had a coversation with John Hanford, then a member of Sen. Richard Lugar's (R-Ind.) staff. Hanford apparently recalled a White House meeting under the George H.W. Bush administration in which Robert Gates, then National Security director, showed one of the old images of the Mount Ararat area to various people at the meeting. "Mr. Hanford said that imagery showed something sticking out from the ice and snow — but that it could have been almost anything."
The memo was triggered by a newspaper article that suggested Mount Ararat imagery might be made public under former president Bill Clinton's decision to release historical documents. The CIA agent says in the memo that such imagery "might or might not be included in the declassified materials."
The other record concerned a review the George H.W. Bush administration conducted between 1990 and 1992 concerning Mount Ararat. The record was in response to former CIA director James Woolsey's requesting what it might cost to undertake a more exhaustive review of all the material. At the time, the price was considered too high to do such a search. Woolsey was told it would take an analyst six months to complete such a study. It appears that study never was completed.
Insight still may receive additional records. The CIA has asked other agencies to review specific records for possible release in the near future. In the meantime, Insight is reviewing its options on whether to pursue in federal court images taken by the CIA with its KH-9 remote-sensing satellite in 1973 and its KH-11 satellite in 1976, 1990 and 1992.
Timothy Maier is a writer for Insight. email the author
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"Proximity"? Perhaps you can explain how light from galaxies millions of light-years from us reached Earth so we could learn this? BTW - saying that the universe was created with that light in place is not a valid answer!
Go rent the video........you'll see what I mean. It's worth it.
Since you are new here let me give you some advice. If you care to stick around, try not to insult folks here. Your arguments for or against something should be able to be made without personal insults to other posters.
Those that demand that the Genesis story is word for word literal will accept nothing else, but there is a lot of reason to think the flood story is based on the sudden and catastrophic breach of the Mediterranean Sea through the Bosporus and into the Black Sea, virtually wiping out the cradle of civilization along its shores.
The best translaion of "kinds" seems to be 'genus' not 'species'. That would narrow the numbers considerable and make more sense, wouldn't it?
Cool, which mountain? I did Whitney and Shasta and had a blast. Shasta is actually easier and gives you a much better alpine mountaineering experience.
I agree if they can find George Mallory's body the Ark would be rather easy to locate.
By definition, if God creates something it has to have an appearance of age. Whatever it is. If he created a man and a woman, they would appear to be 20,30? years old, even if they were merely a few hours old. If he created a river, the water flowing in that river would appear to have come from upstream (and before that from condensation/transportation/evaporation) even when it was only minutes old. Likewise a mature tree, if created instantly would presumably have growth rings. (I haven't figure out Adam and Eve's navels yet.)
He had to create the planets (and every celestial body) with trajectory and momentum, or everything would collapse. In the same way God had to create the stars already fully functioning. According to your way of thinking, the light could not have extended beyond a stars surface at the instant of creation. But photons on a star's surface are generated deep beneath the surface. For the universe to be created instantaneously, every star had to be created with fully developed a gravitional field, internal structure and heat transfer, rotational energy, etc. Stars had to be fully formed for the universe to function as the Creator intended. Just like living things had the appearance of age so did the universe including stars.
But then again, it was called "Palestine" for quite a while until the UN (And Britian) decided to create "Israel" again.
It's a mess and always will be...No doubt about that. But like I said, if they had fought-it-out a couple of hundred years ago (Or more) and someone had established boundaries, It may not be such a mess. But then again, just the presence of the three major religions (Not to mention all the others who call Jerusalem home) pretty much assures conflict...Forever.
So why did He not make it so it appeared that life had been evolving on Earth for 3 billion years?
Do you have any evidence that the universe was not created 5 minutes ago, with we living having been created with our "false memories" intact?
Lets see if I can remember a few of the places I've been in the Sierra Nevadas after 10 years...........{All from the eastern facade because of less access; I hated the west side, too many hikers from LA and SF} Soloed Mt. Humphreys, the last 100 ft is low grade-5; Mt. Darwin, North Face is great even in August; Mt. Terra, beautifully formed pyramid above Golden Trout Lake. For some reason I never got around to doing Mt. Whitney, too many other hikers and long lines to obtain permission, I guess.
I used to live in Montana before moving to CA so I've done a lot of the peaks around Missoula, and Bozeman MT plus trips to the Canadian Rockies (got dumped on when trying to climb Mt. Robson), soloed the Tetons (I was younger then, and stupider, LOL; the Rangers don't allow soloing anymore).
Five years ago was a dream vacation that I tacked onto an all-expenses-paid trip to New Delhi, India for a symposia; flew to Kathmandu after the meeting and took a Sikorski helicopter to Luklha in the Himalayas, solo treked to Mt. Everest and climbed Gokyo Ri (17,500 ft; personal best for altitude), 14 days up and back, memorable once in a lifetime trip.
The past 2 summers were spent in different areas of the Absarooka-Beartooth Wilderness in south-central Montana along the Wyoming border, very remote Elk, Mountain Goat and Griz habitat; the Lake Plateau is a gorgeous plateau dotted with pristene lakes with a rolling sustained altitude of around 9,500 ft and great peaks all around 12-13,000 ft, climbed The Twin Sisters, Lake Mountain, Chalice Peak. Incredible Cutthroat trout fishing in the all of the high altitude lakes on the plateau (very, very dumb...............and delicious fissssssssssshhhhhhhsssssssss, my precious).
Then it's merely the story of Job with a boat and some animals as special effects.
If you're going to suspend all natural laws for the story, then it doesn't matter if the ark was the size of a thimble. For that matter, it doesn't matter whether it happened at all. It's one of those shizzam moments that you either accept entirely on faith or you don't.
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