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Gun-toting citizen halts apparent robbery
south bend tribune ^
| 11/04/02
| LINDA MULLEN
Posted on 11/04/2002 12:01:55 PM PST by hoosierboy
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Considering we call the local paper the libune, I think this is a nice story. Nobody was hurt.
To: hoosierboy
To: *bang_list
BTTT for The Armed Citizen
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:05:46 PM PST
by
xsrdx
To: hoosierboy
"Everywhere I go, I make people safer, and they don't know it."The editor must have been falling-down drunk to let a line like that slip through!
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:06:32 PM PST
by
Redcloak
To: hoosierboy
How do you draw a pistol from your waistband? Very carefully!
Nice story!
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:10:09 PM PST
by
Howie
To: hoosierboy
Way to go Mr Endres and the South Bend Police!
Courage, honor and rational thought still live!
Hoo Yah!
To: xsrdx
"I stopped about 10 feet away from him and ordered him: 'Don't move. Drop everything in your arms.' The man turned and started walking towards me. As loud and clear as I could, I said, 'Don't move. Don't move.' He got to be about four paces from me when he held up a pry bar over his head. He was close enough that he could've hit me with it."I was a little scared at this point. I was yelling clear commands. In that instance, I fired a shot over his head and he froze," he said.
Hmm, I wonder where that shot went? Not the best example of the defensive use of a handgun. Why not just call the cops, since there was no threat except to the business owners insurance company? Be a good witness if lives are not at risk.
At any rate, Pry Bar=Lethal Threat=Shoot to Stop.
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:12:01 PM PST
by
xsrdx
To: hoosierboy
The only thing that could of been better was instead of firing over his head he fired at his feet and said "Now dance for me boy!"
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:12:17 PM PST
by
lelio
To: hoosierboy; pocat; Travis McGee; harpseal; SLB; Lion Den Dan; Jeff Head; AAABEST; TEXASPROUD; ...
And then, as if it were scripted for television, a man in full Halloween drag, wearing an all-black nylon suit with a skull and crossbones on the front, sauntered up to the scene and said, "What's going on, dude?" Endres said he told the masked man to go get help. That man flagged down a Pizza Hut delivery car and the driver called police...........
And the pizza guy stopped for that ???? Gheeeesh ! Awesome story....
Stay Safe !
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:15:39 PM PST
by
Squantos
To: hoosierboy
Good for Mr. Endres, and I'm glad he's okay. He's obviously a brave man. But don't you love journalists? The perp had prior arrests, or did the author mean convictions? If it was in fact the latter, then what the heck was the perp doing out of jail if he was a serial offender?
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:16:32 PM PST
by
mewzilla
To: hoosierboy
But Eric Endres wasn't imitating Barney Fife Saturday night when he stopped a burglar, Good grief! It was Gomer, not Barney who made the citizen's arrest!
BTW, if they had told me to "drop the gun", I would have firmly but politely explained that this was an expensive gun and that I would very slowly lay it down and move away from it where I would happily lay down.
To: hoosierboy
OMG, don't tell Sarah Brady or the VPC.
To: hoosierboy
Great story for us who are soft on the Second Amendment. And I love the line, "people are safer though they don't know it." But what I really want to know is what happened to the halloween cross-dresser and the pizza boy?
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:19:28 PM PST
by
Lady Jag
To: xsrdx
At any rate, Pry Bar=Lethal Threat=Shoot to Stop. That would be the Indicated Response.
To: hoosierboy
Considering we call the local paper the libune, I think this is a nice story.I couldn't believe my eyes this morning when I read the headline. Amazing!!
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:20:35 PM PST
by
ishmac
To: hoosierboy
"Everywhere I go, I make people safer, and they don't know it. It's the least I can do for my society. As a good citizen, it's a little bit my responsibility to do the best I can and prevent crime. Nobody knows it, because it's always concealed, but I will always risk my life to save others."This is a very true fact cited in Dave Kopel's reports, the fact is that many people get a "free ride" on the backs of those who take the responsibility of being armed.
To: hoosierboy
Anyone who has a television should know the proper accent to use when saying "citizen's arrest, citizen's arrest." Well, I'd never say, nor recommend saying, "citizen's arrest". Just say, "Stop! Put your hands in the air! You are under arrest!" followed by some other orders. Never volunteer that you are a "civilian" and never claim to be law enforcement(if you are not). Every person has the legal, common law right to place a person under arrest who is in commission of a forcible felony. Let the perp assume you are a cop who will not hesitate to shoot. If the perp thinks you are a civilian, there is a chance he may think you are reluctant to shoot. So don't even open that can. Tell him to get down and what the reprecussions will be if he doesn't obey.
To: hoosierboy
The story is pretty good, except for the 'Barney' comparison. Implying that an armed citizen is like Barney is a little insulting. With all due respect to Barney Fife.
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:24:52 PM PST
by
tje
To: hoosierboy
Oh yeah, like this would happen in NJ. "Stop, or I'll punch you."
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:28:48 PM PST
by
jjm2111
To: hoosierboy
Gun-Toting, huh? There only two things that I know of that one can tote...1 is a gun, and the other is that "prop" the Klinton toted around on Sundays. The Bible. Do you know of anything else that can be toted?
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:33:46 PM PST
by
Puppage
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