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Live Thread for Minnesota Senate debate
FOX NEWS | 11.04.02 | me

Posted on 11/04/2002 5:15:19 AM PST by wewillnotfail

Fox will air the debate if it happens. Please ping interested parties?


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coleman; michaeldobbs; mn; mondale
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To: iconoclast
Yep. Coleman now bringing up partial birth abortion (Mondale says he supports it).....parental right to know...says daughter had to get permission to get her ears pierced.......
261 posted on 11/04/2002 8:19:48 AM PST by Otta B Sleepin
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I can not believe that Mondale is being so damn defensive. Calling Coleman a 'right-to-lifer'... LOL!

Mondale: "I...I... I respect you... I... I... BLAH BLAH BLAH!!"

262 posted on 11/04/2002 8:19:51 AM PST by rintense
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To: twyn1
My mother, in California, said she was talking to a couple of people about the Governor's race. They were undecided. My mom said, "well, at least Simon has the courage to stand up to his pro-life position. So many politicians refuse to state their true convictions." She said the other two nodded and decided to vote for Simon!
263 posted on 11/04/2002 8:19:52 AM PST by Wphile
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To: aristeides
No, he didn't. Bottom line, though, is that Mondale is not bad at all. He's going to win the election. I sure wish he wouldn't, but I just don't see Coleman as getting the decisive win he needs.
264 posted on 11/04/2002 8:20:08 AM PST by CatoRenasci
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To: Catspaw
I am certain that Coleman's tone should play better in Minnesota...Mondale sounds like an old geezer trying to lecture Coleman...I don't think that comes off well
265 posted on 11/04/2002 8:20:16 AM PST by KeatsforFirstDog
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To: aristeides
"Did he say anything when they applauded Mondale?"

Nope, they let all the applause go for Mondale!

266 posted on 11/04/2002 8:20:24 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Howlin
Haven't read the thread. Just arrived, how is it going?
267 posted on 11/04/2002 8:20:25 AM PST by Letitring
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To: Howlin
Colman told Mondal how he lost children at young age,so now has respect for the children. Caught Mondale off guard.
268 posted on 11/04/2002 8:20:39 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: wewillnotfail
At the start of the debate, the moderators said there were no time limits, but they expected the candidates to be reasonable (or something akin to that).
269 posted on 11/04/2002 8:20:54 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: wewillnotfail
Mondale has the dem disease of interrupting and talking over the speaker during HIS time. (Ann Lewis is the champ of this habit.....ugh)
270 posted on 11/04/2002 8:20:55 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: wewillnotfail
Is anyone timeing this?// Mondale just talked for 2 mins straight!!!11

Yep .. Mondale is getting more time because he keeps cutting off Coleman and won't let him finish his sentence

271 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:01 AM PST by Mo1
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To: LisaFab
Coleman CAN'T bash the old geezer or he'll be fried by the media

Nonsense. Coleman MUST attack, while still being gracious, a la Saxby last night. Mondale has a long record of failed ideas and bad policy to smash. Coleman should also skewer Mondale on his HMO experience and contrast with Wellstone: "you can't have it both ways Fritz".

Coleman needs to bring up issues he know Mondale has not been prepped on, to capitalize on Mondale's history of confused debate rambling.

272 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:03 AM PST by montag813
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To: Miss Marple
Coleman shamed Mondale into saying how sorry he was for his children's deaths - Good One!

FR is crawling once again Jane.

273 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:07 AM PST by LisaFab
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To: maximus@Nashville
QUESTION #2 REBUTTAL - Dean Barkley:(VENTURA'S GUY, from an old website)

Ms. Himelgrin's characterization of Congress as "...an institution devoted to facilitating the exploitation and oppression of the working people in the interests of enriching a handful of wealthy families" is close to the mark. Change "wealthy families" to "special interests" and you hit the bull's eye. However, I do not share her class warfare view of the world and respectfully decline her invitation to her demonstration.

Ann Wynia and Rod Grams make several good points with which I agree. Ms. Wynia correctly says, "...Congress is not responsive..." and correctly cites special interests, obstructionists and petty partisan bickering as contributing factors. Mr. Grams correctly states, "Congress has become a bloated institution which is more interested in serving itself than the very people they are elected to serve. Congressional reform is long overdue."

Mr. Grams cites several reform measures which I also advocate including term limits, rotating congressional committee chairs, elimination of unnecessary subcommittees and excessive congressional staff and requiring Congress to live under the same laws it places on others. I would add a lobbyist gift ban, which Mr. Grams opposes, and the elimination of pensions for members of Congress. Our elected representatives have looted the Treasury to provide obscene pensions for themselves. If elected, I will not accept a Congressional pension.

When it comes to government reform, it isn't enough to simply identify the problem or author legislation. In fact, such action by our elected representatives is deceptive more often than not. Sadly, most incumbents have no intention of reforming Congress. If the will to do so was there, reform would have happened by now. The public isn't holding them back. Who else but Congress is hindering reform?

For real reform to occur (beyond the superficial tinkering Mr. Grams credits himself with) legislation must be passed not just introduced. For many in Congress, introducing reform bills is a marketing sham designed to dupe the voters with statements like, "My support for reform is proven by the fact I authored..." Those statements are as meaningless as most bills introduced in Congress. What counts is what passes.

I ask both Mr. Grams and Ms. Wynia, how can you possibly expect voters to believe you will reform anything when you are both up to your necks in special interest campaign contributions? What do you expect to give in return for these massive amounts of money? And how do you expect voters to take you seriously when you use this money to trash each other in your TV ads?

Using this money this way speaks volumes about what voters can expect if you are elected. Not only do you obligate yourself to special interests, you treat voters like children, insulting us with your cartoon ads, misrepresentation and mindless bickering. And you would have us believe you are the ones to reform Congress?

I ask the E-DEBATE audience, who do you think will be the better reformer, one of those two or Dean Barkley who is not beholden to either major party and refuses special interest money?

Dean Barkley, Independence Party Candidate for Senate

274 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:15 AM PST by piasa
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To: Miss Marple
Coleman respectfully refers to Mondale as "Vice President". Mondale calls Coleman "Norm." If it's true that Minnesotans are a polite people, this could be good for us.
275 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:22 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Letitring
Hard to say, being that I hate Mondale.......LOL.
276 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:27 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I too believe Mondale is doing much better than expected.
277 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:28 AM PST by Petronski
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To: KeatsforFirstDog
He is an old geezer!

Question...are they going to talk about anything other than abortion?

278 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:53 AM PST by Wphile
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To: Carolinamom
Yikes! Coleman wants trade with Cuba.

Doesn't want ANWAR drilling????

279 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:54 AM PST by rintense
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To: concerned about politics
Gee, if he had a humpty-dumpty quality in his voice, I would swear that Mondale was Al Gore
280 posted on 11/04/2002 8:22:10 AM PST by maximus@Nashville
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