Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Thurs., Oct. 24,2002

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[wewillnotfail]

Overnite, two men arrested while sleeping in their car at a reststop in MD. John Mohammed aka John Williams and his stepson Lee Malvo. Mohammad is thought to be the likely shooter.

[abner]

Not only that, wait till they find out that HE was the one that shot the 13 year old. (I don't know that of course but it's entirely possible)

I'm going to guess that Malvo did all of the abdomen shots.

[Mo1]

think Malvo was a problem kid and he may have gravitated to Mohammed, who knows maybe he is a teenage run away. As far as I know his mother hasn't made a statement for any kind yet. Perhaps that is because she might be an illegal too.

Well according to the report .. the mother was also picked up but let go on $1500 bond and Malvo was released to his mother

Where is the mother?? How did Malvo end up with Mohammed??

And so far I haven't heard any reports of the kid having legal problems

But maybe that will change has the news comes out

All I know is none of this adds up

[Cboldt]

if they were just conducting drive by's....why get out?

Thrills, I suppose. But the MO was not robbery, and not inconsistent with shooting through a trick-trunk. I don't know if they had the trick-trunk there, but it's possible (car registered 9/11/2001). My broader point was that Furman's comment re: "what drove them from robbery to serial sniping?" was a comment about a false progression. These guys may have been into killing, period. No progression, except as to how many per week.

[abner]

but all that Grey hair he had is now gone .. LOL

Ok, I'll grant that some gray hair is gone, but he still has some on his temple. ;-) A lot less though.

[Darlin']

Well, how can you have a custody dispute over your child with a man you aren't married to ? What possible claim could he have to her child ? Malvo was picked up by INS on December 2001, had one INS court appearance in January of this year and was released to the custody of his mother. His second INS hearing is set for December of this year. It is thought that Malvo and Mohammed left the Tacoma/Seattle area some 9 months ago, that would be just after the January INS court appearance.

[Route66]

"You tryin' to git ridda me? ; ) "

Course not, just encouraging you to enjoy the lowered stress level.
I also understand about the compelling part. I have been up late here a few too many nights in a row, also.

[Darlin']

As far as I know Malco didn't have a police record but he was a disciple problem or so said the authorities in Washington.

[Mo1]

OK .. thanks .. that clears things up a bit

[commish]

The Alabama Murder, here in my home MOntgomery - happened at an ABC Store just down the road (about 2-3 miles).

The two ladies that worked at the store were locking up for the night and had their backs turned to the parking lot. One lady was shot in the back and killed, the other was shot in the neck. The one that lived said she had her back turned and did not see anything.

There was a police officer that heard the shots and when he got to the scene the men were going through one of the Women's Purse. They ran when the officer approached and got away. The woman later said nothing was missing from her purse. So technically there was no "Robbery" it was an attempted robbery -- But it WAS NOT Just a sniper hit.

The link to Malvieux and Muhammed was a finger print on a magazine dropped at the crime site -- reportedly a gun magazine.

The biggest question is "Why did the officer not shoot when he knew these perps had shot the women" -- I can answer that to, our moron mayor has instituted a policy where in any police officer who shoots a suspect who is unarmed or running away is immediately suspended and put under review. This officer could not tell if these guys had the guns on them when he approached, and did not shoot because he did not want to loose his career.

[Katya]

He wasn't having a custody dispute with Lee Malvo's mother...he's not the bio father, just a fill -in. He was married twice, and apparently had custody disputes with both wives. The second wife, with whom he led a devout muslim family life(according to neighbors) was the one who took out the restraining order and now lives in CLinton, MD. Geez...I think I've got this straight.

[cake_crumb]

"Nothing happens in a vacuum."

Thank you for reminding me of another reason I had my DirecTV shut off: the media will do their best to convince us that nothing, indeed happens in a vacuum...and go on and on and on and on and on about how it's X41's fault this nice Gulf War vet turned (there's the Iraqi connection again) and how he hated us killing off all those innocent Iraqi children, and how OPPRESSION, against DA BLACK MAN, duh-DROOOVE HIM TA DO-IT (al la Jesse Jacka$$' lame Martin Luthor King impression) but we will resist those platitudes...

Then the DU trolls and anti-semitics and/or/including wingnut libertarians will spam our FR discussion threads IN DROVES...

Urban legends of how it's all X41 and X43's faults, and what did they know and when did they know it will be born, die and be resurrected...it'll die down and come back again in a few months, the same old crap, recycled as breaking news...over, and over and over...

argh....

[Darlin']

Yes, exactly, that is my understanding, too.

[Katya]

"The link to Malvieux and Muhammed was a finger print on a magazine dropped at the crime site -- reportedly a gun magazine."

This made me think they'd gone inside the store and browsed magazines etc. Of course if they did get out of the vehicle, the magazine may have simply dropped out upon exiting.

[Mo1]

Ok, I'll grant that some gray hair is gone,

some??

Maybe like all of it ...LOL

[Mo1]

Well, how can you have a custody dispute over your child with a man you aren't married to ?

Exactly .. that doesn't make sense

[abner]

He still has a little patch on his left temple.

[hispanarepublicana]

Here's all I found on Google while searching "Word Is Bond" and "Rap". Of course, this is probably nothing that unique when it comes to rap, but it still gave me chills:

"E-Dub & Ja"

[Ja Rule]
Uh, yeah
It's Ja Rule baby
It's E-Dub
Yeah
Def Squad
Uh
Y'all motherxxxxers think it's a game right?
Get da name right
R-U-L-E baby
My xxxx is airtight
Compressed, dead all da non-sense
Pass da 4-5th and load up the cartridge
E Reved up da 6
We about to blow out like bitchez wit bad kidz
Once u feelin da slugz hit
Datz as real as it gets
Then you wonda
Why da quake can come from unda-neath, while you figure it out
You on da streetz
Laid out wit da gun still stuck in yo mouth
xxxxin wit Ja is suttin Niggaz fearfully doubt
Cuz I don't give a xxxx
I don't give a xxxx, god may I ask from yo prayer so my soul don't die
These is real tears I cried
And dreamz don't lie
When they tell me dat I'm doin good in da devilz eyez
But I preach to Im
Be dat same, Nigga put da heat to Im
Askin E Dub what da xxxx you wan do to Im

[E-Dub]
E-Dub and Ja
An eye for an eye, Gat for Gat
Peep Game, Cover the Mic and Spit Flamez
Two cats who come strapped, self contained
Ain't xxxx this raw since Big Daddy Kane
Heavyweight, I knock a Nigga out in two
Put him to sleep, see dreamz and swear it wasn't true
Look at you, lame, I'm iller, rhyme killa,
Comin thru like da return of Godzila

[Chorus]: [Ja and E-Dub]
Now can I tell ya
E and Ja top doggz, def squad,
xxxxin wit us is like, {suicide}
Bow down, real niggaz on da move comin thru blazin you
Cuz we are {livin l-i-i-fe}
Thug style, Hennesey, Blazin treez,
Gettin g's, indeed, Cuz we will {do or d-i-i-i-e}
Right now by any meanz
{Words is bond word is bond}

[Ja Rule]
Ain't nobody touchin da ground dat I walk on
My Love, It's just so strong
If you crossin me you dead wrong
And you know cuz you feel it in yo heart nigga
And you don't sleep cuz yo soul might fall apart nigga
If you feelin me now,
The strenght got you settlin down
We puttin in work
In otha words we puttin in roundz
Take two for now
Ja and E-Dub
Strictly for the love
We xxxx hoez and bust slugz, Nigga
Why in da world would you put me in da position
To put niggaz out of commision, love, willin and wishin
Cuz I'm feelin the need to cut off da air dat you breathe
By any means it's Ja and E no in beetweens

[E-Dub]
Now we move agile,
You and yo niggaz is fragile
Like glass and UPS boxes, xxxx watch this
Still housin, The year 2000's now
So fear this or we in yo face niggaz, BLAAU

[Chorus]: [Ja and E-Dub]
Now can I tell ya
E and Ja top doggz, def squad,
xxxxin wit us is like, {suicide}
Bow down, real niggaz on da move comin thru blazin you
Cuz we are {livin l-i-i-fe}
Thug style, Hennesey, Blazin treez,
Gettin g's, indeed, Cuz we will {do or d-i-i-i-e}
Right now by any meanz
{Words is bond word is bond}

[Ja Rule]
Now what I love is to see my niggaz on top
And I feel that we can't be stopped
And my life don't mean xxxx to me
But my life gon make history
Feel me, a nigga ain't supposed to be
As deadly, and you ain't even close to me
Respect me, cuz we livin dangerously
Luv me, cuz y'all cant even xxxx wit me

[Chorus]: [Ja and E-Dub]
Now can I tell ya
E and Ja top doggz, def squad,
xxxxin wit us is like, {suicide}
Bow down, real niggaz on da move comin thru blazin you
Cuz we are {livin l-i-i-fe}
Thug style, Hennesey, Blazin treez,
Gettin g's, indeed, Cuz we will {do or d-i-i-i-e}
Right now by any meanz
{Words is bond word is bond}
Uhhhhh........

[Mo1]

There was a police officer that heard the shots and when he got to the scene the men were going through one of the Women's Purse. They ran when the officer approached and got away. The woman later said nothing was missing from her purse. So technically there was no "Robbery" it was an attempted robbery

OK .. that is the story that I heard

Oh my head is starting to really hurt trying to keep up with this all

[Sacajaweau]

Jumping in on the Alabama thing...A Top Dog Alabama cop down their spoke:

The cops heard the shot, ran around the corner and Malvo was going through the ladies purse. They chased the guy and got within two feet of him at one point when he ducked into some woods. Malvo had dropped a gun magazine during the chase with the print.

If you know all this, sorry, it looked like no one saw this particular speaker.

[Mo1]

He wasn't having a custody dispute with Lee Malvo's mother
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Check out post #2564

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/774875/posts?page=2564#2564

John Lee Malvo (17) is Jamaican and an illegal. According to INS records, Malvo was arrested by Border Patrol agents in Bellingham, Wash., on December 19, 2001. Local police called the Border Patrol during an incident involving "some sort of custody dispute" between Malvo's mother, Uma Sceon James, and John Mohammed