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Cops Hung Up Phone On Beltway Shooter(!)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 10/23/2002 | Sari Horowitz and Carri Morello

Posted on 10/22/2002 9:56:15 PM PDT by Dirk McQuickly

Edited on 10/22/2002 10:21:53 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

An angry letter found tacked to a tree behind a restaurant where the sniper wounded a man this weekend complained of six failed attempts to reach police, and threatened more killings, of children in particular, if millions of dollars were not deposited in a bank account within two days, law enforcement sources said.

The letter listed half a dozen calls that had been "ignored" by operators answering phones at the command center in Rockville, Md., the Montgomery County police station and the FBI. It even named some of the people who had answered the phones.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; graspingstraws; mooseisloose; pckillsinnocents; police; sniper; tinfoilalert
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To: tomkat
uhmmm, maybe to fund the political goal ... ?

Consider that what Osama was doing was setting up financing for terrorist operations, and that with him gone, and the progress being made in getting at the AQ funding network, the terrorist cells are probably hurting for cash for operations.

261 posted on 10/23/2002 9:34:15 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Howlin
Well, the al Qaeda leadership now have a Battle Plan on how terrorize America. Send snipers to Politically correct/Diversity driven communities in America.

Then, they can kill and spread terrorism while good Americans defend those in charge of the inept Politically Correct/Diversity agenda driven police forces.

When the al Qaeda sniper teams are turning many of American's urban areas into free fire killing fields, millions of well intended Americans will be defending their Politically Correct Police Chiefs and their Diversity Queens by saying that they are doing the best that they can. That is part of the PC virus, never holding people responsibe and demanding that they do their jobs. The PC virus has infected too many good Americans.

Of course thanks to Jake Reno, the PC virus has infected the FBI, the ATF, the CIA, and the Justice Department.
262 posted on 10/23/2002 9:44:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: xsmommy
I have also said to put his letter on tv, let the nations newspapers run it and then we can put it on the bulletin board. If this guy went to school in America, some teacher will recognize his hand writing and style.

The unibomber was caught finally after close to two decades by releasing the data they had. The unibomber's brother saw the data and realized that the unibomber was probably his brother. If they had not released that data, he could still be killing people with his bombs.

This sniper knows the DC area very well. Getting around the DC area and escaping after a shooting is not an easy task. So, I have a feeling that he and his friend/friends might have grown up in the area.

You never succeed in life or solve problems unless you try to do something. So far nothing that I have seen even approaches getting out of the PC/Diversity agenda box to try and solve this crime
263 posted on 10/23/2002 9:51:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: steve-b
What happened to Chief Ramsey in DC? Didn't one of the shootings occur inside the District? Or is his force still tied up looking for (more of) Chandra Levy? I can see it now--

Chief: We have a break in the case!

Reporter: You found the sniper?

Chief: No, but while searching for bullet casings, we found Chandra Levy!
264 posted on 10/23/2002 9:54:26 AM PDT by kregger
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To: motexva
It's the French/Yugo marksman that's missing. If it wasn't him, and you were him wouldn't you make sure you contacted the authorities to say "hey il n'est pas moi".(it's not me)
265 posted on 10/23/2002 9:57:38 AM PDT by Sgt Carter
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To: Grampa Dave
I certainly agree with that. They are "going to school" on this whole sad circus.

I said the other day that one can only hope that ONE of the sniper's "victims" is the press.

266 posted on 10/23/2002 10:03:25 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Darksheare
Talking heads on TV saying why would Sniper wait after 12 shootings to demand money.

Answer is Sniper made contact with FBI agents and they didn't find him credible 5 SHOOTINGS AGO per NEWs sources.

So maybe the demand for money (11 million dollars) might have been on the table after the first 7 shootings but FBI didn't get the fact they were talking to the sniper.

267 posted on 10/23/2002 10:05:07 AM PDT by FootBall
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To: FootBall
For some reason that brings to mind the Keystone Cops where they're talking to the guy on the phone from a phonebooth.. and he's in the next phonebooth.
268 posted on 10/23/2002 10:26:14 AM PDT by Darksheare
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To: Dirk McQuickly
Madeline Twogoodes address is at Mailboxes etc.
269 posted on 10/23/2002 10:43:42 AM PDT by dagnabit
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To: MedicalMess
He is very neat, meticulous (only one bullet) he is neat to the point of being a psycho neatnik - a neatnik with a demon-our worst nightmare.
270 posted on 10/23/2002 10:48:18 AM PDT by dagnabit
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To: All
I have seldom seen a less professional display of LE mentality than I have seen on this thread.  Rather than pull together some have opted to criticize one of the lead men in the operation to apprehend the perp.  At once they are more qualified than the Bush administration, the Justice Department, the Secret Service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, Military Liaison officers, Public School officials, the elected leaders of six different counties involved in this investigation, the LE leadership of these counties and peers in his own department.

Folks, you may not like some of these agencies.  I don't like one of them, intensely.  Who else are you going to call?  Duh!

Chief of Police Moose has a PhD.  He also has a Master's Degree.  In under twenty days he coordinated the smooth development and interactions of a team involving all the above agencies.  This team of bordering community leaders and federal agency officials has devised a plan that is being implemented.  Some of the best LE minds in this nation are involved in this process.

Frankly some of the folks on this thread are embarrassing themselves.  I don't give a damn what your current position is or your past positions have been.  You're ignoring a bevy of facts to make some of the claims you have.  I'm not buying them.  You talk of interdepartmental and extra departmental embarrassment at Chief Moose's actions.  Let me tell give you a little tip folks, nothing I have seen Moose do has even come close the colossal asses you've made out of yourselves on this subject.  Why don't you just crawl back under your rock and high five the other idiots in your department(s) that haven't the wattage to get out of their own way.

Let's do a little assessment here.  You haven't been involved with this investigation at any level.  You haven't sat in on any of the meetings.  You haven't reviewed the evidence.  You don't know what was said during the phone calls.  You haven't read the notes from the perp. You don't know what other bits of evidence have been gathered.  You don't know what tips have been supplied.  You don't know what thought processes have gone into even one decision that has been made in this case.  In short, you don't know didly squat about this investigation.  None the less you consider yourself to be eminantly qualified to damn this police chief based on the fact that you don't like his diction.

Is that about it?  Yep, that's about it!

Impressive.

271 posted on 10/23/2002 11:11:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Howlin
I just don't see what good it does to trash this man who is ONLY DOING HIS JOB.

You keep missing the point that it is NOT HIS JOB. He is NOT a detective, or an Investigator. He should get out of the way, and let those WHOSE JOB IT IS TO DO, do THEIR job.

272 posted on 10/23/2002 11:41:32 AM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
Well, why don't you call the people in charge and tell them that. I'm pretty sure they see him on TV, too. If he's not suppose to be there, somebody should tell them!
273 posted on 10/23/2002 11:44:14 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: DoughtyOne
Did I ever tell you how much I hate it when I agree with you? :-)
274 posted on 10/23/2002 11:45:18 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Frequently. Now cut it out!

Smile...

275 posted on 10/23/2002 11:51:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
You haven't been involved with this investigation at any level. You haven't sat in on any of the meetings. You haven't reviewed the evidence. You don't know what was said during the phone calls. You haven't read the notes from the perp. You don't know what other bits of evidence have been gathered. You don't know what tips have been supplied. You don't know what thought processes have gone into even one decision that has been made in this case. In short, you don't know didly squat about this investigation. None the less you consider yourself to be eminantly qualified to damn this police chief based on the fact that you don't like his diction.

You can stop throwing up that strawman argument anytime, now.

It is somewhat like suggesting that unless you have built your own web forum like this one, that you have no right to make comments about it.

George Bush has never been on a battlefield. Should he NOT be Commander in Chief?

Like I said, you can just stop it. Everyone here is entitled to their opinions. You dont have to buy it, OR like it for that matter. Janet Reno has a degree, and it didnt keep her from being an inept, stupid and crooked woman.

With Chief Moose(head)'s grasp of the English language, I can only wonder what Affirmative Action program he slithered into college under. Bill and Hillary have degrees too, I suppose we should just shut up and follow them? I have two degrees, does that make me God? Just shut up with that.

276 posted on 10/23/2002 11:51:36 AM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: Howlin
I think I explained earlier, why no one in their right mind is going to publically rebuke the good Chief.

The only thing missing from this is a good-ol Racism charge.

We are stuck with this person for the duration, because it is politically correct to have him there.

277 posted on 10/23/2002 11:53:34 AM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
Well let me tell you what context I'd use slithering in. No matter how Moose got into college, and neither your or I know, he did obtain a PhD and a Masters Degree. You don't achieve that without some skills of your own. Now that may not be as high a level of education as you have, but none the less I think you've slithered in here to fling the slop around regarding Moose. It's not called for.
278 posted on 10/23/2002 11:56:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: BuddhaBoy
Stop digging, man.
279 posted on 10/23/2002 11:57:18 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: BuddhaBoy
God you're dense. We are "stuck" with Moose because he happened to be the police chief who's jurisdiction the crimes were committed in. He's is qualified to have this job. he is doing a good job. How about spending even 5% of your venom on the perp?
280 posted on 10/23/2002 11:59:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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