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I THINK THE SNIPERS ARE AL QAEDA
Various Cable Networks ^ | 11 October 2002 | Myself

Posted on 10/11/2002 1:40:39 PM PDT by LSUfan

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To: LSUfan
Maybe they should look into the use of a sewer system for escape, since that was mentioned in the training tapes.
261 posted on 10/11/2002 5:25:11 PM PDT by Eva
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To: LSUfan
I don't have time to read 250+ posts, so this may be redundant. I have thought ME terrorism from the git go. They can now control the movements of police with a phone call (just heard shots near school!). Watch out for something big in the DC area soon as they distract with the shootings.
262 posted on 10/11/2002 5:27:29 PM PDT by bankwalker
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To: LSUfan
Well, I have given a lot of thought to this and have reached the conclusion that this is not a terrorist but rather some wacko who may have at one time ties to some militia group. Such ties meaning in membership only and in no way insinuating that what he is doing is a reflection of the the mentality of whatever group he was a member of.

As a member he probably had access to a range in which to hone his shooting skill.

As for the perp being a terrorist, I don't think so.

As for motive, he might have some warped sense of reasoning that tells him that what he is doing will in some way help enhance the war against the true terrorists......

263 posted on 10/11/2002 5:27:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: LSUfan
I don't think so. The guy(s) doing this are pretty smart with access to military weaponary (review the bullets used). Raghead terrorists are just too f*ckin stupid to elude police after 10 or so attacks.
264 posted on 10/11/2002 5:32:22 PM PDT by irish_lad
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To: LSUfan
don't lock in on the 150 yards. He could have been closer and the "moving targets" were probably lined up properly so to maximize the possibility of a kill. Whoever is doing this HAS practiced for this event but need not have had extensive military training, just some dedication and a steady head and hand.
265 posted on 10/11/2002 5:33:03 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: LSUfan
personally i dont think it is al crappa... they tend to train with soviet style weapons like the russian SVU rifle .. doubt they would train on that and then switch to a .223

http://www.geocities.com/landofsnipers/weapons/svu.htm
266 posted on 10/11/2002 5:33:41 PM PDT by RichardEdward
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To: LSUfan
I think the sniper(s) are connected with Islamists,too. It makes sense that they would first attempt to terrorize the DC area--our nation's capital.
267 posted on 10/11/2002 5:36:53 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: FormerLurker
"And why only the Beltway area?"

Regardless of who the killer is, leftist authoritarian, or jihadist they are attacking the US. They are assaulting the Capitol. They're also being quite forward about doing their killing N. and S. of the home base of America's 911 force at Quantico, VA. Quantico is where Marine concepts, doctrine, training, and equipment of the future are concieved and taught. The killers have been studying and learning Marine warfare doctrine to attack Americans and their Freedom.

268 posted on 10/11/2002 5:37:20 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: irish_lad
Raghead terrorists are just too f*ckin stupid to elude police after 10 or so attacks.

Raghead terrorists are just too f*ckin stupid to elude police after 10 or so attacks take down four airliners and 8 buildings in less than an hour.

269 posted on 10/11/2002 5:37:34 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: ninenot
As to 'claiming:' no one EVER claimed TWA800.

Actually, I think I read an article here on FR once that stated someone did claim responsibility for flight 800. Can anyone here help out with that?

270 posted on 10/11/2002 5:42:27 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: johnb838
Testy tonight? ;)
271 posted on 10/11/2002 5:43:11 PM PDT by madison10
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To: livius
Al Fuqra appears to be active in NY, California, and a couple of places in the South.

They had a training camp right here at the homebase area of FR. In fact, one of their "students' shot and killed a young Deputy here, and the description of the shooting was that he had "sniper training."

272 posted on 10/11/2002 5:47:14 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: LSUfan
Could be a terrorist op. Very probable.

Could also be some nut case. Also very probable.

Time will tell.

I just want them caught and eradicated.

273 posted on 10/11/2002 5:47:39 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: cinFLA
yea, your post really puts it in perspective.

We can't ever underestimate them or make fun of their seemingly simple plans that have proven accurate and deadly!

274 posted on 10/11/2002 5:50:40 PM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: browardchad
Muslims, Tarot, and statements of "I am God."

It would be a mistake to assume that a muslim couldn't use tarot cards, or write "I am God" across it.

My wife is from the middle east and insists that it is full of superstition and occultism, including the "evil eye" and all sorts of fascination with "jinn" or "spirits." I don't know of any particular link with Tarot, but on its face, it would not be in contradiction to Islam as practiced by ordinary people.

Also, there have been times when religious fanatics in the muslim world have tried to identify themselves as God or spirits of God and managed to get away with it. Ismail, grandson of the great Safavid leader Junnayid (in Iran) was designated "mahdi" (Messiah) and went on from there to be called "The Living One" and wrote the following poem, and others like it:

I am Very God, Very God, Very God!
Come now, O blind man who has lost the path,
behold the Truth!"
I am that absolute agent of whom they speak"

It was Ismail that finally declared that Shiism would be the path for Persians (Iranians) to follow. According to Mackey ("Persia, Islam, and the Soul of a Nation"),
"..Ismail and the "qizilbash" (warrior class) won converts and imposed their creed though example, zeal, massacre, pillage and torture. In Khorasan, Ismail freed the city from Sunni control by personally killing the Uzbek king...Taking the skull, he ordered it set in gold to create a drinking cup for the sultan of the Ottoman empire, a gruesome statement of rising Safavid power."

275 posted on 10/11/2002 5:57:14 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: LSUfan
My friend in Silver Springs said that the local media is reporting that all the victims were shot within easy reach of an entry ramp to a highway--as though the shooter were able to fire the round, pull the van's rear door closed, and be en route before the victim hit the ground--hence no real eyewitnesses.

My guess is that it is el Qaeda and that they are shooting at suburban locations (the heart of America) where they can park above and far enough away to wait for an opportunity and then get away fast. Strip malls and parking lots are open fields. These guys are simply hunting and killing American people with impugnity--letting us know that we are powerless to stop them.

276 posted on 10/11/2002 5:58:31 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: LibKill
Definite Terrorist Team-Weapons not openly transported- Weapons kept and fired from possible fixed platform in vans-Trained observers-Operationally Sound Military Style Shootings!Well planned recon missions-Precision Operations!
Too many coincidences-smooth flowing tactical precision!
277 posted on 10/11/2002 5:58:45 PM PDT by wharfrat
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To: dogbyte12
I have this feeling that maybe 3 months ago, 6 months ago, all of these places were visited by the shooter.

Good thought. Maybe the shooter has friends who worked at some of those places.

278 posted on 10/11/2002 6:00:26 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: LSUfan; All
I've read several people speculate that the "I am God" reference, since no one has seen the actual card yet may have said "I am Allah". I put it into google and found a very strange page. Here are a couple quotes from the website.

The very knowledge that I operate from is the knowledge of the origin of all things which is designed to solve the problem. This great showing of divinity from Me, Allah in Person, is being shown in My Home, first, and from there it will mushroom across the country and world.

The most unanswered question in the Blackman's mind (Muslim) in North America at this time is: "Is Royall Allah?" Of course, the answer is yes. I knew before I began to do anything in the way of making this known -- the world has not known Allah, nor How He Does Things for so long that the past and present generations have lost the ability to discern. Knowing this, I Had To Employ a process that would gradually bring them back into The Know, and now I Have grown enough to attract the attention of Satan himself, and he is presently waging all-out war, against Me - the Head of Righteousness.
This poses a problem for the masses and the would-be righteous because the world is very familiar with Satan. Because of their daily practice of his ways. So it makes it very easy for one to accept the spin that Satan puts to what I am doing. Almost to the point of killing the will to do the necessary investigation of what is being done by Me - Allah in Person. Leaving the arduous task of doing EVERYTHING, even to pointing this out of how to tell if I am indeed Allah or not.

and this:

The many tapes and writings that are accessible to the investigator will yield clear evidence that there is no negative or devlishment presented from Me, even in the face of the detractors, doubting, prodding and goring, trying to get me to acknowledge their god by the use of some of his ways.

There is a picture of this guy at the top of his page too, he favors a hispanic black man. This islam religion is just to dang weird.

united nation of islam

279 posted on 10/11/2002 6:01:23 PM PDT by knak
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To: thchronic
The other note written on the tarrot card, reported by Fox News this morning, was that they did not want this to be reported in the news. That's why the police got so upset by it being reported. Makes me think it may have been an activation card to active other silent cells.
280 posted on 10/11/2002 6:02:54 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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