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Congress told US Iraq attack will trigger Arab rage
Reuters ^

Posted on 10/08/2002 4:31:22 PM PDT by RCW2001

By Alan Elsner, National Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Oct 8 (Reuters) - A U.S. attack on Iraq would trigger a wave of anti-American anger in the Arab world, which may force governments to adopt repressive measures to retain control, a congressional subcommittee heard on Tuesday.

"We must recognize that an American-led war to topple (Iraqi President) Saddam Hussein is bound to deepen anti-American resentment, even if such a war sets the stage for the creation of a reasonably pluralistic and stable government in Iraq," said Daniel Brumberg, a Georgetown University government professor.

Brumberg told the House of Representatives subcommittee on national security, veterans affairs and international relations that a U.S.-led attack on Iraq would "trigger violent protests throughout the Arab world" forcing Arab governments to become more autocratic and to choke off what few democratic institutions they have.

Pollster John Zogby, presenting the results of a recent public opinion survey in five Arab nations, found little support and great opposition to a U.S. attack against Iraq in all five.

Among the several experts who addressed the committee, some suggested anti-American feeling in the Arab world was fueled mainly by Washington's pro-Israeli policies.

Zogby said his polling found general admiration among Arabs for U.S. science and technology, U.S. democracy and popular culture and U.S.-made products but fierce opposition to U.S. policy toward the Palestinians.

"Americans are not hated. It's only American policy that creates negative feelings among Arabs and Muslims," he said.

Although there was agreement that the United States needed to vigorously pursue a peace agreement to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, other witnesses argued that anti-American feeling was generated by government-controlled media and education systems and religious institutions that produced a constant stream of anti-American and anti-Jewish incitement that often crossed the line into outright racism.

Ambassador Christopher Ross, State Department coordinator for public diplomacy and a former U.S. ambassador to Syria, said Arab government controlled news media "frequently engages in negative stereotypes, disinformation and outright demonization of the United States and the West ... There are also general views that the United States is immoral, anti-religious and anti-Muslim."

University of Maryland Middle East expert Shibley Telhami said that by pressuring allies like Jordan to defy its own public opinion and back an invasion of Iraq, the United States was intensifying a strong sense of Arab humiliation that might fuel further terrorism.

Yigal Carmon, president of the Middle East Research Institute which monitors Arab broadcasts, school textbooks and religious speech said, "Much of the hatred of America stems from misinformation, fed to the Arab street by government and non-government institutions."

He cited Palestinian school textbooks that taught 10-year-olds admiration for suicide bombers and preached open anti-Semitism.

Several speakers noted the explosive population growth taking place in the Arab world, where 60 percent of the population is younger than 20. Of a total population of around 200 million, 65 million Arabs were illiterate.

"Young people who are frustrated, bored or angry, and who tend to get their news from satellite TV stations rather than from a responsible, professional press, are particularly vulnerable to the simplistic slogans of Islamic demagogues," said Brumberg.

He and others highlighted the role of the cable TV network Al Jazeera which framed the news in a black and white way and often gave air time to extremists. ((Washington newsroom, 202-898-8300, fax 202 898 8383, email Alan.Elsner@reuters.com))


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: israel; jews; zionism
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To: rudypoot
I don't think these islamics do that. It's kinda like bin Laden plotting a terrorist attack on the US, standing up and taking credit for it and having no plan to deal with the butt whoopin' that was coming to him

I see what you mean now. Thanks for clearing that up.

61 posted on 10/08/2002 5:48:32 PM PDT by Mixer
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To: RCW2001
may force governments to adopt repressive measures to retain control

The whole purpose of this war on Islamic terrorism is to force the Islamic nations to repress their Islamic people.

62 posted on 10/08/2002 7:01:01 PM PDT by mcsparkie
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To: muawiyah
Responsible Arabs know what awaits them should they ever succeed in chasing the West away!

It won't be pretty.

But it will be...er...interesting to watch, don't you think? Besides, when it's over, the Arabs will be better off under Turkish rule, which is now at least somewhat representative, than under their "home boy" thugs, dictators and tyrants. 'Course they'd be better off under Israeli rule than they are now. Ask any Israeli Arab if he'd rather live in one of those countries or where he does. Alternatively, just for Iraq. Split it up. Give the South to Kuwait or Iran if they rid themselves of the Ayatollahs in time, the west to Jordon, and the north to Turkey. The center is likely to be glass that is glowing in the dark for some time, and none of the neighbors will want that part.

63 posted on 10/08/2002 7:08:08 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: 45Auto
There is something to be learned from Arab culture

You are talking about Persian culture. Arab culture would be the little black box with the little black rock. And sleeping with a camel in the desert.

64 posted on 10/08/2002 7:12:52 PM PDT by mcsparkie
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To: El Gato
the Arabs will be better off under Turkish rule

In a lot of ways, isn't it too bad that the Ottoman Empire collapsed into the present dismal state of the "Arab" world?

65 posted on 10/08/2002 7:15:25 PM PDT by mcsparkie
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To: RCW2001
this is a reprint from 91, right?
66 posted on 10/08/2002 7:20:52 PM PDT by The Wizard
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To: RCW2001
Why is the House listening to these leftist idiots??
67 posted on 10/08/2002 7:23:24 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: El Gato; a_Turk
I do not think the Turks deserve the punishment of conquered Arabs under their rule. They worked long and hard to craft a modern Islam and deserve credit for that. Now if the next Pope is named Urban..........
68 posted on 10/08/2002 7:25:41 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: RCW2001
So? And this is supposed to make us what? Not fight back against the terrorists? It seems to me they are more aggressive against those they preceive as weak!
69 posted on 10/08/2002 7:26:13 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: 45Auto
the real shame is that we cannot visit Baghdad and see the marvels of the late and great Persian Empire.

hogwash... you have to go to TEHERAN to see the Persian Empire. *NEVER* call an Iranian an ARAB, that is one of the worst insults you can imagine. Iranians are Persians and rightfully look at the rest of the Arab world as a bunch of uncivilized camel merchants...

70 posted on 10/08/2002 7:27:26 PM PDT by chilepepper
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To: RCW2001
Congress told US Iraq attack will trigger Arab rage

And we and Israel would know the difference how?
71 posted on 10/08/2002 7:28:24 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
LOL!
73 posted on 10/08/2002 7:56:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Are we to pretend he's unbiased? I'm sure as hell not.

As far as the Arabs being enraged, I DO NOT CARE........and I hope they are SCARED TO DEATH, TOO.

74 posted on 10/08/2002 7:59:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Nick Danger
It only would demonstrate once again the impotence of the American superpower

Was old Art in a coma during the Gulf War?

75 posted on 10/08/2002 8:00:12 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RCW2001
ZOGBY IS AN A R A B ! ! ! INTERESTING, HUMmmmmmmmmm.
76 posted on 10/08/2002 10:09:19 PM PDT by epsjr
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To: RCW2001
other witnesses argued that anti-American feeling was generated by government-controlled media and education systems and religious institutions that produced a constant stream of anti-American and anti-Jewish incitement that often crossed the line into outright racism.

Note that this could as easily describe large portions of the U.S., too. :-(

77 posted on 10/08/2002 10:19:27 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: 45Auto
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:rq6IBxsnuG4C:www.india-emb.org.eg/Section%252010/Engl3-1.htm+%22Arab+numbers%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Arabic Numerals, not quite. But google on zero...

And here's a quick result.

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:0rXYbP3K3P8C:hallbook.com/science_nature/21.shtml+%22origins+of+zero%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

-SNip-->The scene then shifts to India, where the zero emerges shrouded in mystery. When this strange and powerful cipher becomes the property of Arab traders, the tale takes on an aura of magic and intrigue, as medieval Europeans recoil from what they see as a mark of infidel sorcery--only to later embrace it as a symbol of God's power to make all things out of nothing....

-SNiP--The origin of our current notation for the number zero is also unknown, though it is presumed to have originated in India with Hindu mathematicians, somewhere between 500 and 800 A.D. Later the Hindu numerals were employed by the Arabs (and became called "Arabic numerals"), and from them spread into European mathematics.

Couldn't find the specific articles i was thinking of, though.
78 posted on 10/08/2002 10:33:11 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Senator_Palpatine
ROTFLMAO
79 posted on 10/09/2002 12:22:16 AM PDT by weikel
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To: RCW2001
I don't give a damn about Arab rage. They need to start worrying about American rage.

And for the record: I don't give a damn whether they like me or not.

80 posted on 10/09/2002 12:32:29 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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