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Two Hispanics Sought In DC Area Killings
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| 10/4/02
| World Net Daily
Posted on 10/04/2002 8:29:34 PM PDT by joesnuffy
HOMELAND INSECURITY 2 'Hispanics' sought in D.C.-area hunt Be-on-lookout alert describes shooters' race
Posted: October 4, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Paul Sperry © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
By Paul Sperry
ROCKVILLE, Md. -- Police in the Washington suburb where five people were gunned down in two days are looking for two "Hispanic" men in the fatal shootings, according to a police bulletin that federal authorities shared with WorldNetDaily.
Montgomery County Police in press conferences have described only the gender, not the race, of the two suspects -- one a driver and the other the shooter.
The be-on-the-lookout, or BOLO, alert that local police sent out earlier today to all law enforcement agencies also described in detail the "white box truck" used by the snipers.
The six-wheeled vehicle resembles a commercial delivery truck, police say. The cab is smaller than, and separate from, the large box-shaped cargo area, which is completely enclosed. The rear passenger side of the bumper has been damaged. And there is block-lettering on the side and rear of the truck.
A Montgomery County Police spokesman confirmed that the BOLO describes the suspects in the sniper slayings as "Hispanic."
But he cautioned that they could be another non-white race.
"We do not count on them being two Hispanic males," said Officer Derek Baliles. "Appearances can be interpreted. We do not want to limit anything at all."
"It's possible," he added, that the suspects could be Middle Eastern.
He also cautioned that their eyewitness account of the suspects is not solid.
Baliles says the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is examining bullet fragments in two other shootings to see if they are connected to the other five, which occurred Wednesday and Thursday.
A 72-year-old man Thursday night was shot to death on a Washington street corner. And a Virginia woman this afternoon was shot in the back at a crafts store. Her condition was not immediately known.
ATF ballistics experts have determined that a high-velocity rifle firing a .223-caliber bullet was used in at least three of the shootings. The bullet is used in hunting rifles and M-16s and makes a large wound as it enters the body.
The police spokesman says FBI profilers will put together a "word picture" Saturday morning to try to make sense of the unusual crime and come up with a possible motive.
Authorities are not ruling out terrorism.
Baliles says the Secret Service has assigned at least one agent to the case. The Office of Homeland Security and CIA are not involved, he says.
The shooters took very select shots of random strangers, and appear to be trained in marksmanship. All six victims who died were killed with a single shot, some apparently shot in the head, although Baliles would not confirm that.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
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To: LibertarianLiz
Great minds . . .
See post 17.
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posted on
10/04/2002 8:45:10 PM PDT
by
dpa5923
To: kcvl
Maybe they Phillipino, Malaysian, or Indonesian.
22
posted on
10/04/2002 8:45:19 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Polycarp
This is a 22 caliber bullet, very small entry hole. Rifles are not high velocity per se, but the ammo is "high velocity" when it is fired through such a rifle.You could be right however some of the victums were very bloody.
To: joesnuffy
The Office of Homeland Security is not involved...what's wrong with this picture? I thought this type of thing was the reason for their existence. Aaahhh, I don't believe it anyway...I bet there's a boatload of pizzas being delivered to their offices right about now.
To: Robert_Paulson2
Yea, bet the families of these victims won't be very happy with the delay. Whats he care, he's not the everyday Joe sitting in the crosshairs of the terrorists. In a perfect world he would be.......
To: tubebender
Exit wounds.
26
posted on
10/04/2002 8:48:44 PM PDT
by
Polycarp
To: All
They should have just said be on the lookout for non-Anglo, olive-skinned looking fellows. That would have covered all bases.
27
posted on
10/04/2002 8:50:05 PM PDT
by
wimpycat
To: dead
this seems to be right out of the Al Qaeda playbook, when playing in a largely disarmed arena, like wealthy, east coast, million-mom suburbs. They wouldn't attempt this crap in Texas or the South Bronx.) You're right. Nobody in the People's Republic of Montgomery has concealed carry; you practically have to be a Secret Service agent to run around armed. In Texas they'd have to be insane to try this sort of thing because the populace would just shoot back. And hit their target, too.
28
posted on
10/04/2002 8:50:35 PM PDT
by
Capriole
To: LibertarianLiz
A prediction....
If these turn out to be Islamanazis -- shit will hit the fan..
Muslims will become as tolerated as though burdened with Bubonic plague... The burden of exorcism will become backbreaking for them --- finally.
Semper Fi
To: dpa5923
LOL. I hadn't read down the posts before I posted mine. Afterward, I did and saw that you had the same thought.
I suppose its possible for this to be another Padilla; but I am thinking Islamofacists and if this is a new tactic, we are in trouble.
To: kcvl
Keep in mind that Mohamed Hadayet, the Egyptian who shot up the El Al counter at LAX, was initially described by police and the FBI as "Hispanic".
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posted on
10/04/2002 8:52:16 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
To: joesnuffy
Police in the Washington suburb where five people were gunned down in two days are looking for two "Hispanic" men in the fatal shootings, according to a police bulletin that federal authorities shared with WorldNetDaily. It would be most unusual for them to share this with an internet site. Particularly this one.
32
posted on
10/04/2002 8:53:13 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: Anti-Bubba182
"Two Hispanics Sought In DC Area Killings"
Ooops! Racial profiling?
;)
Bet ya it's a disenchanted ex-Marine. They are well trained in sniper shooting.
33
posted on
10/04/2002 8:54:48 PM PDT
by
nmh
To: StormEye
"It's possible," he added, that the suspects could be Middle Eastern." Hey, they were just medical students making a harmless joke.
To: joesnuffy
The Democrats will be devastated if they can't pin this on white boy NRA "extremists".
To: joesnuffy
Kind of interesting to me that the libs have NOT been screaming to high heaven about those evil 2nd amendment gun nut right wing extremists. Not this time around....
When a bullet is submitted for comparison to a firearm, one of the first examinations conducted will be to determine the bullet's caliber. Caliber is a term used to indicate the diameter of a bullet in hundredths of an inch. A bullet that is 30 hundredths of an inch (.30) in diameter is called a 30 caliber bullet. The term caliber is of English origin and is used by ammunition and firearm manufacturers in the United States. Firearms and ammunition of European origin use the metric system and would refer to a 30 caliber bullet as an 7.62mm bullet. The caliber of the bullet is just the first class characteristic that must agree with the questioned firearm. The bullet must also be of the type found in cartridges that the firearm will fire. A cartridge is a single unit of ammunition consisting of the cartridge case, primer, and propellant with or without one or more projectiles. The image below shows these various components. Cartridges are usually given a name or cartridge designation by their developer, who is more often than not the manufacturer of a firearm (It doesn't make much sense to develop a cartridge if you don't have a firearm to fire it in). The cartridge designation typically includes a numerical value to indicate the approximate diameter of the bullet and will often include the manufacturer's name. It never fails that when a cartridge is developed the manufacturer or others will immediately try to improve on the design. Variations to the original cartridge are usually inevitable and may be in the form of a longer or shorter case, differences in gunpowder, or differences with the weight and type of bullet contained in the cartridge. When a variation in the cartridge case length occurs the cartridge's name may include the term Short, Long, or Magnum to denote the difference. Examples of which are the 32 S&W and the 32 S&W LONG cartridges seen below. SMITH & WESSON developed both of these cartridges for use in their 32 caliber revolvers. As you can see, the 32 S&W Long cartridge on the right has the longest cartridge case. Long or magnum cartridges may also have a heavier bullet when compared to the standard or short versions. The 32 S&W cartridge above contains an 88 grain bullet and the LONG version contains a 98 grain bullet. Other variations can occur in the bullet weight and bullet construction within the same cartridge designation. All of the cartridges seen on the right are in the 22 caliber "family" yet each has a different cartridge designation. From the left they are: 22 Blank, 22 Short, 22 Long, 22 Long Rifle Shot, 22 Viper, 22 Long Rifle, 22 Stinger, 22 Magnum, and 22 Maximum. Cartridges designed for use in auto loading pistols will usually have the word AUTO in their cartridge designation (i.e. 32 AUTO, 45 AUTO). Cartridges can also carry a +P designation that stands for plus power. Cartridges with the +P designation usually have no external differences from the lower powered varieties but contain different types of gunpowder to achieve higher velocities. Measuring the bullet's diameter, weighing the bullet, and examining the physical characteristics of the bullet help firearm examiners to arrive at a basic caliber for the submitted bullet. Firearm examiners also can compare the questioned bullet to known reference standards. Most firearms sections maintain an ammunition reference collection and manufacturers catalogs that can be used as reference material in determining a bullet's caliber. Sounds simple doesn't it? Well.... not so fast! It's one thing to look at the bullet above (looking down on the bullet with a mirror in the back showing the bullet's profile) and to say "that's a Federal 9mm Hyda-Shok bullet," when more than likely you've got a bullet from the victim like the one on the right. Is the bullet from a 9mm LUGER, a 38 SPECIAL, a 380 AUTO, or a 357 MAGNUM cartridge? You get the idea. Sometimes firearm examiners can be very specific but there are times when we just can't narrow things down to one particular caliber or cartridge. To further confuse the issue, firearms are normally designed to fire a specific type of cartridge. However, some firearms chambered to fire one cartridge can also fire another. One of the most common examples is that a revolver chambered for 357 MAGNUM cartridges can also fire a 38 SPECIAL cartridge. However, a firearm chambered for 38 SPECIAL cartridges cannot fire 357 MAGNUM cartridges. This must be considered in examining the submitted bullet. You do not want to automatically eliminate a bullet based on its caliber until you determine the varieties that may be fired in the questioned firearm. If the caliber of the bullet submitted for examination matches the caliber of the submitted firearm or if we just aren't sure of the bullet's caliber, the firearm examiner will look for additional class characteristics in the form of rifling to further narrow their search. |
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posted on
10/04/2002 9:10:04 PM PDT
by
Polycarp
To: wimpycat
>They should have just said be on the lookout for nonAnglo, olive-skinned looking fellows.
>That would have covered all bases.
I believe the one-word description would be "Swarthy".
To: wimpycat
Thanks a lot, Wimpycat... now they'll be at MY door... ;0)
To: joesnuffy
"It's possible," he added, that the suspects could be Middle Eastern. The article's written to give us the impression the source is eyewitness descriptions. Why do I think the source is a security videotape?
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