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Hurricane Lili Now A Category 4
TWC | 10-02-02 | my favorite headache

Posted on 10/02/2002 11:30:00 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Category 4 storm now....we are talking Andrew style now.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: hurricanelili
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To: AfghanAirShow
Excellent point about modern web problems.
481 posted on 10/02/2002 6:18:09 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Milwaukee_Guy; mhking; FreedomPoster
One of my co-workers is a SKYWARN amatuer raio operator.

Some of my personal observations from the Good Friday Tornado, 1993. Douglasville, Ga. Reported as an F-1:

1). In a strip mall where a Texaco was completely flattened, a car was lifted up and placed in the second story of an indoor shooting range next door.

2). 2 loaded boxcars were lifted of the tracks and moved 75 yards.

3). There was an RV dealership, John Bleakly RV. They had just erected a large, new steel building. Their lot probably had 200 rv's.

Right next door was a little ole' shack country store. My boss was on the payphone when the tornado came roaring down 78 hwy. This phone was right up against the fence of the RV dealership and my bosses truck wasn't 15 feet from it.

EVERY rv in that lot was destroyed, I mean every single one. The new large steel building was gone. But the little country store my boss hid in, and his truck, were untouched.

If anyone else has any storm stories, I'd like to hear them.

482 posted on 10/02/2002 6:18:27 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: wirestripper
her grandparents had a house destroyed by the Norco explosion.....i guess that may be fairly common down there?
483 posted on 10/02/2002 6:18:31 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: RnMomof7
Nope. Buffalo's drab and has no sunshine. NO jobs...too costly and ugly.
Send us your blizzards once in awhile ok?
484 posted on 10/02/2002 6:19:50 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
I apologize for jumping with both feet -- we'd just finished some extensive discussion of what to post when I saw the graphic. And IMO notice should be put up in the thread title.
485 posted on 10/02/2002 6:19:50 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: SamAdams76
Ya know, that guy comes across as aptly named...
486 posted on 10/02/2002 6:19:55 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: newsperson999
This is a very bad time for New Orleans...I am not concerned about Buffalo..we will get a heavy rain storm..some winds..we will not blow away..or drown
487 posted on 10/02/2002 6:21:32 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: newsperson999
you must remember that south LA with its salt water swamps if more less half ocean/half land so the storm will take longer to weaken then in a normal area..also the speed of the stoem would mean very storng winds well inland before it weakens... 4. I am not sure what the elevation is ofthe above towns but they be all be flooded out in the surge (expect lafayette)

479 posted on 10/2/02 8:17 PM Central by newsperson999

Anyone who has fown over the area wonders where people can find dry ground to live!

488 posted on 10/02/2002 6:21:42 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: dennis1x
losing the eye on IR satellite, good sign?

back to more nnw......

http://www.wunderground.com/global/Region/g1/2xpxIRSatellite.html
489 posted on 10/02/2002 6:22:35 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: viligantcitizen
a car was lifted up and placed in the second story of an indoor shooting range next door.

Well, that certainly gives a new meaning to drive-by shooting ;o)

490 posted on 10/02/2002 6:22:54 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Possibly it was larger

It was a very large storm.

491 posted on 10/02/2002 6:23:32 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: AfghanAirShow
if you must post the picture then download it first and mirror it to another site and then link there.

And that's just common courtesy. When I find folks linking to my images. . . I change the image (snicker)

492 posted on 10/02/2002 6:25:36 PM PDT by Flyer
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To: wirestripper
fown

Duh!

493 posted on 10/02/2002 6:26:09 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: dennis1x
Last I heard on the weather channel, the eye is looking smaller now due to high clouds which affects the satellite imagery. Hopefully they are wrong and the eye is decreasing.
494 posted on 10/02/2002 6:27:01 PM PDT by inflorida
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To: Types_with_Fist
REPORTS FROM AIR FORCE RESERVE AND NOAA RESEARCH HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO AT LEAST 145 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. THIS MEANS THAT LILI IS STILL AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. WHILE SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...LILI IS STILL EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AS A MAJOR HURRICANE.

While the story may not have anything about 150+ winds, the NOAA HURRICANE LILI INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 46A sure does.

Sorry about the varying caps - pulled it straight off the NOAA site.

495 posted on 10/02/2002 6:27:05 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: wirestripper
I'm not a meterologist, but the movement of the eye on N.O. dopler radar sure looks NORTH to me! Looks to be heading just west of Lake Ponchatrain. It even moved NE in one wobble.
496 posted on 10/02/2002 6:27:07 PM PDT by montanus
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To: inflorida
exactly, which means that the tropical "machine" isnt working quite as good to keep the center clear....in other words weakening....could very well just be temporary though.
497 posted on 10/02/2002 6:28:13 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: Sungirl
.**Buffalo's drab and has no sunshine.**



The truth

The Truth About Snow in Buffalo


Some Top Ten US Winter Facts

10 Snowiest Cities

1. Blue Canyon, CA
2. Marquette, MI
3. Sault Ste. Marie, MI
4. Syracuse, NY
5. Caribou, ME
6. Mount Shasta, CA
7. Lander, WY
8. Flagstaff, AZ
9. Sexton Summit, OR
10. Muskegon, MI


10 Coldest Cities

1. International Falls, MN
2. Duluth, MN
3. Caribou, ME
4. Marquette, MI
5. Sault Ste. Marie, MI
6. Fargo, ND
7. Williston, ND
8. Alamosa, CO
9. Bismarck, ND
10. St. Cloud, MN


10 Windiest Cities

1. Blue Hill, MA
2. Dodge City, KA
3. Amarillo, TX
4. Rochester, MN
5. Casper, WY [and]
6. Cheyenne, WY [tie]
7. Great Falls, MT
8. Goodland, KA
9. Boston, MA
10. Lubbock, MA



Source: Williams, Jack, The USA Today Weather Almanac, New York: Vintage Books, c1994, p. 125




The Real Story: The Best Summers in the Northeast

Percent of Sunshine
June through August

1. Buffalo: 67
2. Boston: 65
3. New York City: 64
4. Baltimore: 63
5. Washington, DC: 63
6. Philadelphia: 62
7. Albany: 61
8. Pittsburgh: 58


Average Rainfall
Inches, June through August

1. Buffalo: 8.69
2. Albany: 8.99
3. Boston: 9.39
4. Pittsburgh: 10.47
5. New York City, 10.65
6. Philadelphia: 11.90
7. Baltimore: 12.05
8. Washington, DC: 12.27


Average Temperature
July afternoon

1. Buffalo: 80F
2. Boston: 81F
3. Pittsburgh: 83F
4. Albany: 84F
5. New York City: 85F
6. Philadelphia: 87F
7. Baltimore: 87F
8. Washington, DC: 88F


Source: Vogel, Mike, "Buffalo is Sunshine Capital of Northeast," Buffalo News, May 18, 1989, p. A-l,
based on figures from the National Weather Service




* The bottom line: Buffalo has more days per year in which the temperature is above 60F than days with snow on the ground. Now, will smug out-of-towners please start aiming your climatological condescension at more appropriate targets?


Go Forth And Diss No More.



Copyright ©1999-2002 by Cynthia Van Ness
Last updated 13 July 2002




498 posted on 10/02/2002 6:29:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: montanus
look at this link...shows a nnw movement with a line drawn through it would slip pass the part of La that juts out a little....

http://www.wunderground.com/global/Region/g1/2xpxIRSatellite.html
499 posted on 10/02/2002 6:30:09 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Andrew was quite compact and moved fairly fast. I few hours before it was thought it would hit land further north, probably South Palm Beach CO... My thoughts and prayers are with all in it path. Don't underestimate this storm, even if you have been through hurricanes before, a cat 4 or 5 is a whole different beast. I have experienced several hurricanes, but the horror my friends and I recall of experiencing 140 and 150 mph winds for hours and the aftermath is beyond any of our descriptions.
500 posted on 10/02/2002 6:33:10 PM PDT by not-alone
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