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Spooky Finds In German Archaeological Digs
IOL ^ | 9-25-2002

Posted on 09/26/2002 4:23:38 PM PDT by blam

Spooky finds in German archaeological dig

September 25 2002 at 07:44PM

Nebra, Germany - Archaeologists offered a first glimpse on Wednesday of a lost culture's holy site atop a German peak, and confirmed it as the source of the world's oldest map of the heavens.

The exact location has been kept secret for weeks, amid fears that treasure-seekers would move in and disturb Bronze Age remains.

The site is atop the Mittelberg, a 252m hill in the Ziegelroda Forest, 180km south-west of Berlin.

Adding a spooky touch is the discovery that, seen from the Mittelberg, the sun sets every June 22 behind the Brocken, the highest mountain in northern Germany. The Brocken is in a direct line of sight on a clear day, 85km to the north-west.

'The oldest concrete representation of the stars in the world' The Brocken is fabled in northern European mythology as the place where witches gather for a coven every April 30.

Scientists are still scratching their heads at the full meaning of a 32cm bronze-and-gold disc found by treasure hunters on the Mittelberg in 1999. The map on its face shows the Brocken as well as 32 stars including the Pleiades.

Experts in pre-history can only guess at the identity of the people who made the "Nebra Disc" 3 600 years ago.

"This disc, with the oldest concrete representation of the stars in the world, was placed in a pit in the middle of a ringwall during the early Bronze Age," Harald Meller, the chied archaeologist in the state of Saxony-Anhalt, said on Wednesday.

"We still don't know if it was a princely grave or a treasure store for holy objects."

On Wednesday reporters were shown a clearing where the archaeological dig had gone down about half a metre into the soil, leaving what appeared to be loose stone walls standing. The site was once surrounded by wooden palisades and a complex of defensive ditches.

Wolfhard Schlosser, an expert in ancient astronomy at the University of the Ruhr, added, "The ringwall was built in such a way that the sun seemed to disappear every equinox behind the Brocken."

Experts believe the map and site formed an observatory, which was used to set the calendar for planting and harvesting crops.

The nearby forest contains 1 000 barrows or princely graves from the period, but little else is known about the lost people, who are not mentioned in ancient Greek or other Mediterranean sources.

Meller said two bronze swords found at the site had been made with a technique unique to Mycenaean and Anatolian swords, and had a similar shape to arms found in modern Romania and Hungary. The site is to become a tourist attraction when the dig finishes in a year or two. - Sapa-DPA


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; nebradisc; nebradisk; nebraskydisc; nebraskydisk
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Lost Culture/People. Who were they?
1 posted on 09/26/2002 4:23:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
DRUIDS of course. Thats odd, because they didn't look druish.
2 posted on 09/26/2002 4:29:06 PM PDT by Lokibob
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There's that 3600 year age again. Did they need a new calendar? Seems like a lot of calendars being made 3600 years ago.
3 posted on 09/26/2002 4:30:23 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Lokibob
they didn't look druish" ROTFLOL!
4 posted on 09/26/2002 4:31:42 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam
You can find similar structures used to predict equinoxes and solstices in Stonehenge, other European structures, and among American Indians.
5 posted on 09/26/2002 4:35:50 PM PDT by curmudgeonII
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Seems like a lot of calendars being made 3600 years ago.

What is even more amazing is that when they made these calendars, they did not even know it was 3,600 years ago. How do you explain that?

6 posted on 09/26/2002 4:36:00 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: blam
Who knows, but I just bought the "Nebra Disk" on eBay.
7 posted on 09/26/2002 4:48:02 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: #3Fan
"There's that 3600 year age again. Did they need a new calendar? Seems like a lot of calendars being made 3600 years ago."

I thought you'd catch that. Remember the tree rings and ice cores recorded a world wide disaster in 1628BC (Same time as the Exodus from Egypt, ahem)

8 posted on 09/26/2002 4:50:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: Lokibob
It is obviously an astronomical computer. Some guy must have come up to them said "Hey, Druid, get a Dell"
9 posted on 09/26/2002 4:53:32 PM PDT by Andyman
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What is even more amazing is that when they made these calendars, they did not even know it was 3,600 years ago. How do you explain that?

I don't get your question. ??

10 posted on 09/26/2002 4:54:40 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: blam
I thought you'd catch that. Remember the tree rings and ice cores recorded a world wide disaster in 1628BC (Same time as the Exodus from Egypt, ahem)

Yep, about the same time. I wonder if that's the same time the Sahara dried up.

11 posted on 09/26/2002 4:56:50 PM PDT by #3Fan
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666 x 5.4054054054054054054054054054054 = 3600!

I knew I could tie it in with Armegeddon if I just looked closely.

(patting my back as a true endtimeologist..yeah baby!)

12 posted on 09/26/2002 5:02:04 PM PDT by DainBramage
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666 x 5.4054054054054054054054054054054 = 3600! I knew I could tie it in with Armegeddon if I just looked closely. (patting my back as a true endtimeologist..yeah baby!)

I still don't get what you're trying to say. ??

13 posted on 09/26/2002 5:11:28 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Andyman
Some guy must have come up to them said "Hey, Druid, get a Dell"

It would explain why human sacrifice started.

a.cricket

14 posted on 09/26/2002 6:47:11 PM PDT by another cricket
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HAHAHAHA... I've got a DELL & I wish I had a MAC - but Microsoft leaned on Autodesk & now you can't get Autocad for a MAC

Theres a couple of guys I'd like to sacrifice

15 posted on 09/26/2002 10:28:01 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: swarthyguy
FYI
16 posted on 09/27/2002 6:04:59 AM PDT by blam
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1628BC...what's the geology of that time say....earthquakes? ...meteors? ...just severe drought? How about the earths's magnetic field?
17 posted on 09/27/2002 9:38:11 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: blam; aristeides
Good thing Himmler didn't find this.
18 posted on 09/27/2002 9:48:12 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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"1628BC...what's the geology of that time say....earthquakes? ...meteors? ...just severe drought? "

Santorini blew up, big time.

19 posted on 09/27/2002 10:00:36 AM PDT by blam
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>(Same time as the Exodus from Egypt, ahem)

AHEM yourownself, Blam. Works for me as a pretty good time for the Israelite bailout by sea from Egypt for the "proto-Celts", prior to the later and larger exodus by land for the rest of the Israelites. But regardless how you pencil it, that date doesn't work for the main exodus.

20 posted on 09/27/2002 10:30:35 AM PDT by LostTribe
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