Cancer breakthrough stuns scientific world

itechnology ^ | September 05 2002 at 08:26PM | Steve Connor

[nravoter]

so, who's stock should we buy?

"Martha? It's me; you didn't dump that ImClone, did you?"

[Dark Knight]

I agree that his reply was insensitive. My reply would be more like "Why in the blue blazes don't we check this idea out with all the resources at our command, to make this available for all cancers and viruses ASAP?"

That is one of the saddest parts of the current health care system, forcing one disease to compete with another on the political playfield, instead of the medical.

Unfortunately, the politicians, drug companies and the lobbyists play that game too well. If I were overseer, I'd spend five mil on a quick study to verify, and 5 or 10 bil on the process to treatment. That is less than what we spend on marginal treatments today.

DK

[chachacha]

When you make a choice in life and you know there is a possibility you may die from making this choice, I'm not g choosing there death "they are"!

Therefore, they do not deserve a second choice to live over those that did not make a choice to die.

Sounds logical and fair to me.

[Dark Knight]

Personally I would decline to play G-d if given the choice. Suicide attempts are the only real choices with a high probability of death. Even that is uncertain.

You're in an ER. The nurse says to the doctor
"He ran a red light, the insurance won't pay, Doctor."
"He ate a (nationally known fast food chain) burger, the insurance won't pay, Doctor."
"He's had refined sugar for the last five years..."

Every one in the world does "risky behaviors". Politics determines which are descriminated against. Not medicine.

Choices to die are more like 500th risky thing, 1000th risky thing, 10,000th risky thing, ad nauseum.

Let's be more inclusive about life if given the choice, not less!

DK

[FourtySeven]

An interesting article and corresponding paper! Marking this for later read, thanks!

[FourtySeven]

Actually, I figured that I should probably, for myself when I get home, link to the abstract. This may be beneficial for others too!

Here it is.

[Hammerhead]

Great, now they've done it.

Pissed off the gays REAL good this time.

[ChuckHam]

If you want to help find a cure for cancer go to http://www.ud.com/ and download the client. It will use your spare cpu cycles to test out potential cures for cancer.

[chachacha]

Personally I would decline to play G-d if given the choice

Who is G-d? Actually It should all be caps. "GOD" Say It GOD!

Lets pretend GOD is giving injections to cure cancer and the first in line is a practicing gay who got aids from his ALTERNATIVE LIFE STYLE. The next person in line was one who did not practice this ALTERNATIVE LIFE STYLE and listened to what GOD preached against.

Who would he give the cure to?

Lets let GOD sort it all out.

Unless the one you know G-d can do it. I doubt it.

[Vic3O3]

using Drosophila embryo extract.

Time flies like an arrow.

Fruit flies like a banana.

[realpatriot71]

Come on Thom, you know I support a person's right to take or put whatever they want into their bodies. However, a physician cannot, in good faith, be giving people substances without knowing how they will act. I can show you that Draino kills cancer cells in culture, but at the same wouldn't recommend an intavenous drip of Draino.

[Dark Knight]

Jeesh, you convinced me. What morality, what beliefs, what compassion. Your idealism is truly transformational!

Okay, you be GOD. Up to it? Or just Luciferian?

Just want to limit the people you cure, instead of increasing it?

Hey, just to let you know its fair, let's take a vote. Based on the last two emails, you win for GOD or me? Do you get it yet? Did Nels Bohr say something important when he told Einstein not tell God what to do? Are you really competing with God?

Here's a better vote:

All those for chachacha for GOD...

All those for GOD for GOD...

What's your vote?

[Protagoras]

I can show you that Draino kills cancer cells in culture, but at the same wouldn't recommend an intavenous drip of Draino.

I don't recommend one group of people using force to prevent another group of people from doing whatever they think is in their own best interests to save their lives.

For what it's worth, I am opposed to the use of illicit drugs as well as intravenous Draino drips.

I just don't advocate the use of force to prevent adults from doing either one.

More lives have been lost due to government interference than have been saved. That includes the FDA and the WOD. And others.

[Doctor Stochastic]

So, what about the scene in "Magnum Force"?

[Doctor Stochastic]

One can get a sample issue here: http://content.naturesj.com/content/templates/co/co_main.htm?comm=09509232&token=001CD6087D290B12230780A59C5092

[Old Professer]

In light of the following from the source you gave, what are we to make of 'how the RNAi is derived?'... They first showed that siRNAs are produced even in the absence of RNAi using Drosophila embryo extract.

Drosophilia, eh? Seems fitting that the first test subjects would be AIDS patients then if the "cure" is extracted from Fruit Fly eggs.

[Publius6961]

Why AIDS patients?
Can't spare any for normal people?

(you know, the greatest good for the greatest number?)

[realpatriot71]

I just don't advocate the use of force to prevent adults from doing either one. More lives have been lost due to government interference than have been saved. That includes the FDA and the WOD. And others.

I am in complete agreement with you here. I don't think one group of people should keep another group of people from a new drug. However, as physician in training, I can say that I wouldn't personally use a certain substance medically until I knew it was safe to give to my patients.

[Billthedrill]

I can show you that Draino kills cancer cells in culture, but at the same wouldn't recommend an intavenous drip of Draino.

Oh, great. Now you tell me...

(Squeaking sound as BtD hurriedly turns off IV valve...)

[realpatriot71]

Oh, great. Now you tell me...

LOL!