Muslim leaders pledge to 'transform West': 'If Islamic state rises, we will be its army'

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

[knighthawk]

That rule does not aply to infidels.

[carton253]

I have heard that reasoning before... it doesn't wash. They don't need to build "a plane"... as long they can buy them. And as long as the can afford what the market bears, then they will find someone, anyone, willing to sell them weapons and tools of terrorism.

That's why it is important to cut off the money... once that is done, then they not being able to build "a plane" will make sense.

[knighthawk]

Reflections of an American Muslim

We all know islam contradicts itself all the time. From the article:

"There are no absolute justifications in Islam and the Prophet has asked us to tell truth even under the harshest circumstances of oppression. However, one may choose not to tell the truth when:

a. He is under oppression and there is danger of losing his life if he told the truth."

Also the article fails to mention another lie: that of lying to unbelievers:

From the hadith of Bukhari, Volume 5, Number 369:

Narrated Jabir Abdullah:
Allah's messenger said "Who is willing to kill Ka`b bin al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His apostle?" Thereupon Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's messenger! Would you like that I kill him?" The prophet said, "Yes". Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Ka`b). The prophet said, "You may say it."

[Madame Dufarge]

It'd be nice to know how much Saudi government money is being used to support this invasion,

From Stand Watch Listen's post right before yours - Today's Criminal Will Become Tomorrow's Islamic Terrorist:

"Colson also made mention that Al Qaeda training manuals outline plans whereby American inmates are targeted for conversion because such individuals may be "disenchanted with their country's policies." These "converts" are extremely useful to terrorist groups as the inmates "combine a desire for 'payback' with an ability to blend easily into American culture." This Islamic prison outreach, as recommended by Al Qaeda, is taking place - the most prominent ministry being the National Islamic Prison Foundation. Colson also notes that a main funder of such programs is none other than Saudi Arabia."

Who woulda thought, huh?

[js1138]

My own thought is that lying is like using a gun. We have uses for guns that have no moral implications -- target practice. Similarly, actors can utter untruths on stage that have no moral implications.

We lie in self defense, just as we use guns in self defense. In both cases there can be false justifications, and we do not need to accept everything at face value.

A lie is a kind of force. To justify its use is to justify the use of force. When someone justifies lying, it tells you a lot about their character.

[kimosabe31]

How much plainer does it have to get before the socialist/fascist political elite of western europe wake up to the fact that this "demonic" cult is not expanding into europe and the US with the idea of assimilating. They come to destroy western civilization and the politico's are greasin the skids for them.

[Prodigal Son]

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