Muslim leaders pledge to 'transform West': 'If Islamic state rises, we will be its army'

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

[Inkie]

I agree with your idea of turning away any further Islamic immigrants. However, the analogy with returning Jews to Europe in WW2 is not apt. Those people were returned to certain death at the hands of the fascists. The Islamists trying to come over here will just be returned to their America-hating, Jew-hating brethren. They will not be in any danger whatsoever.

[aristeides]

Bakri said Islam sought to use Western-style liberties to accomplish its goal of subverting the West to Islamic rule.

"As long as my words do not become actions," he said, "they do no harm. Here, the law does not punish you for words, as long as there is no proof you have carried out actions.

"In such a case you are still on the margins of the law, and they cannot punish you," he continued. "If they want to punish you, they must present evidence against you, otherwise their laws will be in a state of internal contradiction."

Why am I reminded of the Nazis?

[Inkie]

I agree with your idea of turning away any further Islamic immigrants. However, the analogy with returning Jews to Europe in WW2 is not apt. Those people were returned to certain death at the hands of the fascists. The Islamists trying to come over here will just be returned to their America-hating, Jew-hating brethren. They will not be in any danger whatsoever.

[Inkie]

Oops. Sorry for double post.

[Guillermo]

They already do. See: UNC and CA public schools teaching Islam.

Muslims are "cute" to the Lefties. Little do they know that their heads will be the first to roll when the Mohammedans take over.

[aristeides]

Abu Hamza al Masri has been involved in indoctrinating a lot of the Islamist fanatics, including Shoe Bomber Reid and those Ujaama brothers out of Seattle.

[Moby Grape]

There are many at FR who are not Christians, and they do not agree with what I will say (that is okay...freedom of religion in the US)...BUT, I have read the New Testament prohecies (and the Old Testament)....Mohammed is NOT going to judge the nations....Christ returns in the last day and establishes HIS kingdom....Mohammed is NOWHERE to be seen. Islam will be thrown into the fire, along with ALL the false prophets.

[denydenydeny]

Indexing.

[Travis McGee]

"If an Islamic state arises and invades [the West] we will be its army and its soldiers from within."

Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.

[facedown]

Yep. The coincident impact of the planes was just that -- a coincidence.

Actually it was just trick photography, like the "moon landing" in the Nevada desert. </SARCASM>

[weegee]

We're in agreement. I wasn't attempting to draw a parallel in their status; the Jews came here as refugees and were turned away (to a certain death). The arab immigrants aren't coming here to "escape" persecution. There are many lands that the arabs could "escape" to before they got to America. When the Jews came to America, Europe was in disarray.

My point was if our nation could turn people facing certain death away then we have no need to be letting people in this country who at best are seeking economic sanctuary and at worst to take over this country from within. The islamist way is not compatible with our constitution. Not all muslims are islamists. We've also got a global collective of anarchist-socialists who want to topple the government. What I don't understand is how the foreign aggitators are permitted travel visas to come to America to riot at WTO and political conventions.

[Minutemen]

"Asked if he was "testing" Western regimes, Bakri said yes."
There, you've heard right from the horses' *A*

[Minutemen]

They have a *mission* to fulfill

[JohnathanRGalt]

Hamza, ... insisted his religion is devoid of hate.

[FITZ]

In Islam, adultery is only if the woman is married, a married man can just be dating a new wife or concubine. Adultery isn't a sin of love, it's a property crime because a man uses another man's property.

[Stand Watch Listen]

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[FITZ]

The plan seems to be going swimmingly so far, though.

It'd be nice to know how much Saudi government money is being used to support this invasion, how many mosques and schools on US soil are built by a foreign government to accomplish their destruction of this country. It's not possible that faithful Islamics would disobey the Koran and move to live among the infidels unless they're following it's other law that they can do this only to conquer other lands.

[js1138]

I take it that Islam does not frown on lying.

[Steve0113]

I take it that Islam does not frown on lying.

Nope. In fact, the Koran encourages it.

[Michael2001]

World War III. Only many on our side haven't yet realized that this is a war.