Posted on 08/10/2002 1:29:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
The anti-FReepers are on the prowl. As most of you know, there is a group of ex-FReepers who have been dogging us for the last several years. The anti-FReeper community was started several years ago by a group of disgruntled individuals who were banned from FR and then wanted to get back at us by damaging our reputation. This started out as petty name calling and rumor mongering, but they now appear determined to cause us as much harm as possible. Even to the point of attempting to get FR and FRN shut down and the owners and managers of the organizations bankrupted or jailed.
Some of the early members of the group include ex-FReepers Mojo, Aligyrl, Landshark, Z2, Headhunter, LindaM, and others who have come and gone over the years. The most recent additions to active anti-FReeping appear to be ex-FReepers Clarity, Clinton's a Liar and JoeEveryman.
There appears to be a certain love/hate relationship involved here. Some of these people hate FR and its PTB (that's "Powers That Be" in their lingo) with such passion that they cannot stay away. Some of the original members of the AF community have given up and drifted off, some have come back to FR, and some are as determined as ever to kill FR and have me and whomever else they can thrown into prison for whatever crimes they imagine us guilty. Their motivation is pure revenge. Their driving force is hatred.
Their current attack is centered around an attempt to break up the Free Republic Network and, through that angle, to cause as much damage to FR as possible. Unfortunately for all of us, there is a genuine problem with the ex-leader of the South Carolina Chapter. Apparently, there was some money collected for events that was never paid over to the vendors and the chapter leader is accused of taking off with the money. I am not going into all of the gory details here, but I understand that there is an official police investigation ongoing and the SC Chapter and the FRN are cooperating fully with the authorities. The anti-FReepers, led by JoeEveryman, are trying to gain maximum leverage from any fallout from this case and are attempting to use it to bring down FRN.
JoeEveryman ran an FR thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/728856/posts) last week on this subject. I eventually deleted it because it was turning into an anti-FReeper haven and I do not want that on FR. The anti-FReepers have plenty of their own websites to conduct their hate campaign. Those who are interested may find JoeEveryman (posting as "Panjandrum") on the LibertyPost.org forum, now appearing to be the latest home of the anti-FReeper community. I have undeleted the JoeEveryman thread for those who are interested in reading it, but have left it locked. I do not want any more anti-FReeping activity on FR.
JoeEveryman is now banned from Free Republic. It is clear on the thead that he ran here on FR and on this (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readarticle.cgi?114+1485+0+1) thread on LibertyPost.org that his intent is to bring FR down and to cause us as many legal problems as he can. I cannot see allowing him to do this on my own website.
It appears to me that they are either preparing some sort of lawsuit and or are trying to entangle me, Bob J, FR and FRN into the SC case. None of us had anything to do with whatever wrongdoing may have taken place in SC. The South Carolina Chapter is an independent entity, as are all of the FR chapters, and neither FR nor FRN have any ownership or control over their activities. It appears that the anti-FReepers are trying to break that down. We'll see. FRN is cooperating fully with the authorities and I will too if they ask.
In the meantime, I do not want them scheming on FR so they are banned and will remain banned. I will also ban any other FR members who get actively engaged in this attempt to bring down FR.
A request to all. Please do not drag any of the anti-FReeper stuff to FR. I do not want it here.
Free Republic has withstood many attacks over the years, from both the left and the right and I am confident that we will survive this attack from this Free Republic Haters Association as well.
Thanks for your continued support.
Jim
I would take a different approach. There are a lot of people who get very active on FR to pursue their own personal power agendas. As long as JimRob and FR march in the same direction as they wish things to go, they are some of the most active Freepers. Once JimRob and FR goes in a different direction, they turn on FR. Sadly enough, I've seen way too many instances of this happening...
Thanks for the nice response. I am aware that there are disrupters on the forum. I wouldn't say that they're limited to third party types though.
I would say that people who profess to be Republicans who do not support traditional conservative ideals could also be suspect. That's not to say that all supporters of Bush are guilty of this, or that all supporters of Buchanan or other third party individuals are all pure as the driven snow either.
People need to keep their eyes and minds open for people who aren't what they represent themselves to be.
To: DoughtyOne
DO, look at who most of the anti-Freepers supported. (Hint...NOT Bush.)
Bush people generally tend to follow rules. We are just boring old main-stream Republicans, not conservative enough for you, of course.
By the way, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
46 posted on 8/10/02 2:24 PM Pacific by Miss Marple
Dear Miss Marple;
It wasn't my intent to hijack this thread in the RangeWars2000 direction. I simply meant to address an issue raised by BillyBoy. In that response I made it very clear that third party players were just as capable as anyone else of being disrupters. I further stated that I didn't not assess each Bush supporter to be a disrupter. How could I have made a more fair evenhanded statement?
Yes, many of the AFer's do seem to be third party types. I might point out that by pretending to be a conservative when in truth your aren't would be a good way to besmirch conservative ideals when they came long though. And those folks would be most effective by staying here. Even at that, I am only asking that people keep an open mind. I in no way made any attempt to trash Bush or all his followers. It wasn't my intent, I didn't do it even by accident, and I would simply ask you to accept this reality.
Now, let's drop this issue. There are plenty of good Bush supporters, and a few Buchanan supporters on the forum who both support Jim completely. And this subject is not the topic of this thread.
D1
Now, when chapters are doing an event and ask for the FRN's advice, we strongly urge them not to indicate a confirmation on attendance until they have the confirmation letter in their hands.
As a side, I believe there was some antifreeper activity concerning this event in SC. If I am not misteken, they mentioned a campaign of writing letters to Sauls and Harris urging them not to attend. It would ironic if the antifreepers are now contemplating some kind of goofy legal action concerning an event they themselves may have been intrumental in destroying.
Sorry WE have to deal with the treasonous dogs.
Live FRee or Die!
It's just really sad that people who have contributed so much to FR have become so bitter. When it's time to go......just go.
It amazes me how worked up the AFers get, but it's understandable in some ways, since some of them swing on loose hinges.
However, why the hell do folks here visit those sites (I'm speaking, of course, to those Freepers whose hinges are screwed on tight).
Suggestions:
1. Take a walk.
2. Buy a puppy.
3. Take in a movie.
4. Do volunteer work.
But if you choose to visit those sites, don't come back here and cry "they're so mean!". As Anna said, it's just an internet forum.
Actually, I think this has more to do with personality type than party affiliation.
I agree.
Take care.
D1
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