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S.F. Judges Ordered to Cut Ties to Scouts
FamilyNews ^ | 8/9/02 | Stuart Shepard

Posted on 08/09/2002 10:49:31 PM PDT by ppaul

SAN FRANCISCO - Don't try to be a judge in San Francisco if you work with the Boy Scouts. Judges in San Francisco are being barred from associating with the Boy Scouts because of the Scouts' opposition to homosexuals being in leadership positions.

The new policy, adopted by the city's Superior Court, prohibits the court's judges and commissioners from participating in any organization that excludes members "... on the grounds that their sexual orientation renders them 'unclean,' 'immoral' or 'unfit.' "

Bob Knight, director of the Washington, D.C.-based Culture and Family Institute, said the policy is ludicrous and offensive.

"In other words, the Boy Scouts are supposed to be so evil for protecting boys from homosexuality that you can't be a judge if you have anything to do with them," Knight said.

National Scout spokesman Gregg Shields said the Boy Scouts will take no action since it is not directly affected.

"In a piece of irony here, the people who are aggrieved or the people who are having their rights trampled here would be the judges themselves," Shields said.

Nonetheless, he called the policy "indefensible" and "inappropriate."

"The judges of the court are supposed to be devoted to fairness and impartiality and respectful treatment of all who appear before them," Shields said. "And yet, they've chosen to publicly reject lawfully held private views."

In fact, attorney Brad Dacus with the Pacific Justice Institute, a religious-liberties group based in Citrus Heights, Calif., argues the new restrictions go far beyond the Scouts.

"We're dealing with a policy that prohibits judges' involvement or participation with any organization that teaches homosexuality as being immoral," Dacus said.

There's a move to take the policy statewide in California. Dacus' group has offered to represent any judge who objects.

Link to article HERE.



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To: wirestripper
Stop being a moron. These clowns represent a small minority of a small minority. They just happen to have alot of power. We hate them too. Imagine promoting a lifestyle where the average age at death is thirty years less than the norm and where many of those years are spent with a horrible disease or two. Makes sense to me.
81 posted on 08/11/2002 6:24:20 AM PDT by willyone
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To: ppaul
First of all, it's Commiefornia, so I expect nothing less since the majority of citizens will do nothing to eliminate the leftist garbage out there by going out and voting. They deservee everything they are getting.

Secondly, it's a shame. If I were the BSA, I would close all California chapters immediately. The only way to defeat these socialist bast*rds is to start pulling out of that state. They don't want SUVs and Pickup trucks. Fine. Don't ship them there. They get nothing but small sedans and econodeathtraps. They don't like the BSA. Fine, leave. They don't like fast food. Fine, close all the restraunts. They want to ban smoking everywhere. Fine, the tobacco companies should cease and desist all business in the state. Once this is done, the left wingnuts that live and run that state will realize that the most of the rest of the nation despises them. And they will not have to worry about a thing. They can drive their electric cars, eat tofu, and medidate daily. We don't care. And the rest of the nation should not have to be penalized because they have adopted communism and we have not.
82 posted on 08/11/2002 9:18:27 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Jim Noble; *Death Cultivation; JMJ333; EternalVigilance; 2sheep; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
For further discussion and strategizing:

Misandrist is the word that you could have used (but as few would recognize it, I'm not suggesting you should have used it).

Obviously if enmity can be increased between the sexes, more population self-replacement can "voluntarily" be prevented, to the extent that a propagandized predisposition against a natural drive can ever be called voluntary.

As for Heterophobia -- I recommend "anti-breeder" instead (at least for a start) for reasons I lay out below.
First of all, it's a reactionary invention to the purely political invention of its complement, homophobia. And both are poorly invented words. Homophobia was invented for sound-bites.

Homophobia was intended to establish a political issue so as to make a relatively small problem seem bigger and more threatening. Because of this, any word you or I coin is almost never going to be seen in the media (like left-winger, and extreme Statist aren't used).

It's poor strategy to invent a counter-word for another invented word that won't be used in the media. (Look how hard it is to get media to use "Pro-Life"). But using a a real word that demonstrates a real threat has a chance of piercing even numbed consciences.

The attack on "breeders" (what the homosexual lobby calls heterosexuals) is never discussed in the media because that would establish an issue; and creating an issue means providing protection for the class represented by the issue. That is definitely NOT what the Malthusian, misanthropic megalomaniacs want to see happen.

83 posted on 08/11/2002 10:09:52 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
I don't disagree with anything you say.
84 posted on 08/11/2002 10:14:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: steamroller
Just try to find one gay who wouldn't rather be straight

hep! But that being said, I don't like the judges decision either... although I have little sympathy for the BSA, or rather, for their illinformed and ilogical decision concerning gays, this is not a good response. Not being an american (yet ;-)) I am not sure of this, but couldn't the BSA drag the judges to some higher court, and get them to change their opinion? The freedom of association have been mentioned...would someone be kind enough to give me a link to the american constitution on the net, assuming that it exists in an electronic form?

85 posted on 08/11/2002 10:40:33 AM PDT by dogbert
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To: willyone
Why the peasants do not rise up like in one of the old thirties movies and remove the oppressors

It's called incrementalism. Peasants being ground down so methodically, they fail to notice. But I agree a good pitchfork-brandishing horde is called for.

86 posted on 08/11/2002 10:43:09 AM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: davidosborne
Thanks David,

I did a google search and found an interesting seal for the city of Sodomcisco:

FGS

87 posted on 08/11/2002 11:46:16 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: Husker24
Unf****n believable, I wish we could throw California out of the Union.

We could take a page out of Superman: The Movie and detonate a couple nukes on the San Andreas fault, thereby creating a massive earthquake and perhaps sinking the western part of the state into the sea...

88 posted on 08/11/2002 12:07:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: wirestripper
Unfortunately this is not really a legal position, it is a political statement.

So what? I'm sure these idiots have been legislating from the bench for years!

89 posted on 08/11/2002 12:09:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SkyPilot
"The show of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hid not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves: Isaiah 3:9
90 posted on 08/11/2002 12:23:10 PM PDT by usslsm51
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To: wirestripper
Good luck on your new position as District Commissioner. Nationwide there is a dearth of good Unit Commissioners, so I hope you can help with improving the situation in your Council.
91 posted on 08/11/2002 12:27:56 PM PDT by RonF
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Did you know that a Girl Scout leader can be a lesbian?

Yes, and a Boy Scout leader can be homosexual, too. What he or she cannot be is "avowedly" homosexual. It's "don't ask, don't tell", not a complete ban.

92 posted on 08/11/2002 12:50:35 PM PDT by RonF
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To: wirestripper
As far as I am concerned, San Francisco is not part of the United States, and is also a hostile. I will not do business with any company based in SF (Sorry Shaklee and Kent Bostick, you have some of the best products, but the headquarters location is a problem). I guess that means I won't be working for Bechtel anytime soon.
93 posted on 08/11/2002 1:27:12 PM PDT by Fred Hayek
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To: Husker24
San Francisco = Gay Capital of the World. There is no place more TOLERANT of Gays. As long as the news is from San Francisco then I wouldn't be too freaked out.
94 posted on 08/11/2002 1:34:21 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: RonF
Thanks for your comments about the huge job of Dirtrict Commissioner. I have to recruit some 18-20 Unit Commmisioners and a few assistants as well due to the size of the district. We have been lacking this for a long time and The Troops, Packs and others has been suffering as a result.

On the other hand, our finances are good and have not suffered from the recent ridiculous attacks. If anything, they have improved somewhat. What we need is better communications and help from the BSA Council to the Troops.

I hope to provide that with the assistance of the District exec. (who is totally buried in paperwork most of the time) Again, I appreciate the good words. Much luck to you as well.....Wirestripper

95 posted on 08/11/2002 2:01:22 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Husker24
Unf****n believable, I wish we could throw California out of the Union.

All I can say is if the Mexicans want it back, they can have it!
96 posted on 08/11/2002 2:03:02 PM PDT by Nowhere Man
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
So what? I'm sure these idiots have been legislating from the bench for years!

Actually, that was the whole point of my comment.

All of the quirky social engineering ideas seem to stem from this group and others in California. The locals complain but it continues. It seems that there is a serious lack of sensible people in the legal and justice arena. The lawyer jokes abound but nothing is done to contain these idiots. Other parts of the country do not tolerate this. I donot understand what is with these people and what is wrong in California. It seems to be enjoying the criticism that the rest of the country heaps upon it.

I hear all too often from Californians who acknowledge the disease but simply live with it rather than treat it.

97 posted on 08/11/2002 2:13:29 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: bootless; scholar
"This is a clear violation of Freedom of Association."

Precisely.

Still?
Just imagine the *players* were switched, here.
That is to say, Judges being publically barred from practicing law IF they associated &/or participated with homosexuals.

Why the Associated Presstitutes & their buddy co-conspirators in the Lamestream media would make damned sure that story superceded an invasion of Iraq & appear on the front page of every Leftist-Socialist rag in the nation ad nauseum, forevermore.

The world (truly) turned upside down; &, especially so for the Bay area of CA.

...& to think SF was once one of the nation's crown jewels, too.

99 posted on 08/11/2002 2:39:40 PM PDT by Landru
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To: willyone
These clowns represent a small minority of a small minority.

When you indicated that they have alot of power, you touched on the point I was trying to make. That power is causing alot of damage. It must be stopped and contained.

Liberals are of the legal view that if one persons rights are violated for any reason a legal remedy is needed to correct it.(regardless of the rights of the majority) This is how this minority of a minority has so much power. Speak to nearly any lawyer and they will confirm what I believe to be true. I am afraid that the majority rules concept of democracy has left the building along with Elvis.

100 posted on 08/11/2002 2:41:47 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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