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UPDATE ON SAMANTHA (CA) Arrest made in murder!!!!!!!
7/19/02 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:16:33 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

Update from OC Sheriff... Press conference..

Playing 911 tape of the people that found the body, male caller was extremely upset, and scared, he was crying, and telling 911 the location but the cell phone transmission was breaking up and was disconnected.

They called the telephone number he left before the disconnect and they called his home and got a messege machine. He called back within minutes and made contact again with 911 and was almost hysterical and crying saying it was little girl and was very distraught,

When Cell caller got home he called again from home phone and recontacted 911, 911 said they would pick him up and the he could show him where the body was.

End of 911 tape

Press conference continues, stating over 2000 citizens have given leads......

Another press conference at 6 PM

At 955 AM they made an arrest alihondro avial DOB 3-1375


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: california; kidnapping; murder; samantharunnion
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To: bvw
WOW...YOURE JUST AS STUPID HERE IS AS YOU WERE ON THE OTHER THREAD. PORN IS A VERY LARGE PART OF THE PROBLEM. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARRIAGE. BUT IT IS COOL HOW YOU MANAGE TO BE EQUALLY IDIOTIC IN 2 DIFFERENT PLACES AT ONCE.
441 posted on 07/19/2002 11:46:11 AM PDT by Delbert
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To: bvw
Lack of respect of marriage is what got this child raped and murdered?! sheesh.
442 posted on 07/19/2002 11:46:11 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: Travis McGee
I want to be the one to fix him with a hot poker.....starting at his eyes and working my way around his hateful despicable crime against G-d's body.
443 posted on 07/19/2002 11:46:31 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: MadisonA
Avila was accused of molesting 2 girls 2 years ago. He was acquitted. What was that jury thinking, it was obvious he was guilty? I hope they sleep well tonight.

No offense, but you DONT KNOW that it was "obvious". I did not see the trial, so I dont know what kind of evidence was presented. I will say this, that on the other hand, there HAVE been cases where girls will acuse guys of molesting them, just to get them in trouble.

I DO think though, that these people will hate themselves for letting him go, even if there really wasn't enough evidence to convict him...

444 posted on 07/19/2002 11:46:34 AM PDT by Paradox
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One thing that has me wondering is the reporting of the guy posing the body and in such an easy place to find it. From the books I've read on serial killers, this is the work of a more advanced serial killer. As they kill they start getting bolder and leave more and more elaborate crime scenes.

What bothers me is what they will find when the DNA comes back. Is this his first murder?

445 posted on 07/19/2002 11:46:35 AM PDT by spectr17
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To: Brian_Baldwin
His mother just said it on television, the police are only investigating him, because "he has a green card".

I also heard that, and thought the same thing for a moment. The mother spoke with an accent, and I too thought that is what she said. But I wasn't sure.

But I can assure you, by 6pm tonight, everyone in this country will know everything about this individual

446 posted on 07/19/2002 11:47:39 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I should add that he mentioned another number of children who were abducted. It was larger than the 4600 number. So I feel the 4600 number isn't easily explained away or I'd concede that point. As it is I am willing to concede to anyone with real numbers including you. If you could provide them I think folks would like to know what they are.
447 posted on 07/19/2002 11:47:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: spectr17
Yeah, what about Danielle Van Dam?

As having been born in the USA, he would be a citizen and not need a green CARD, but was seen driving a green CAR.

448 posted on 07/19/2002 11:48:19 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Case RIF089563 Defendant 467075 AVILA, ALEJANDRO - DOB 03/13/1975

Arrest Charges
Count Charge Severity Description Plea Status
1 PC 288(A) F Lewd Act w/child <14
Filed Charges
Count Charge Severity Description Plea Status
1 PC 288(B)(1) F Lewd Act W/Force Violence Duress HTA
2 PC 288(B)(1) F Lewd Act W/Force Violence Duress HTA
3 PC 288(A) F Lewd Act w/child <14 HTA
4 PC 422 F CRIMINAL THREATS HTA
5 PC 136.1(C) F Prevent/Threaten Vic/Witness HTA
Infor Charges
Count Charge Severity Description Plea Status
1 PC 288(B)(1) F Lewd Act W/Force Violence Duress ACQUITTED
2 PC 288(B)(1) F Lewd Act W/Force Violence Duress ACQUITTED
3 PC 288(A) F Lewd Act w/child <14 ACQUITTED
4 PC 422 F CRIMINAL THREATS ACQUITTED
5 PC M136.1 M Prevent/Dissuaed witness- victim. DISMISSED
449 posted on 07/19/2002 11:48:45 AM PDT by Uni-Poster
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To: Joe Hadenuf
See post #397. Apparently his mother said "green CAR" not "green CARD".
450 posted on 07/19/2002 11:49:07 AM PDT by wimpycat
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To: DoughtyOne
When adults do this, family members cannot cover it up. It will only ensure that other children are abused later, and possibly much worse than the prior children were.

I'd like to share a story here about family members covering up for adults... When I was in high school I was walking to school and a man pulled up in a truck and asked me where a street was - I pointed it out (the next streetlight behind me), and went on my way, as did he. I kept walking and about a block later I saw him pulled to the curb ahead of me and thought he'd missed it. I looked in as I neared the truck and he was masturbating staring at me. I ran the rest of the way to school after looking back over my shoulder and memorizing his license plate. I went straight to the dean of students who called the police with me. They pulled me out of class, then interviewed me with my parents. I told them everything I saw, down to the pool cleaning equipment in his truck bed and the fact he was circumcised. and had a "blemish" on his inner thigh. (Yes, they asked me this in front of my dad). They found him from the license plate, living in Oxnard about an hour and a half away. His ENTIRE FAMILY went to bat for him, saying he was at HOME that morning. Luckily what I told the police was enough to show they were lying, and he was arrested. I don't know what happened to him, I didn't have to testify...

But yes, entire families do stand up for monsters even when the truth is staring them in the face. It's horrible.

Everytime something like this happens, I remind my daughter not to be stupid like I was and even talk to people who approach her in cars, as nice as they may be to her. Run like hell to the nearest business and scream bloody murder all the way. If the person meant no harm, so what? Better to be safe than very, very sorry.

Mrs K

451 posted on 07/19/2002 11:49:20 AM PDT by cgk
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Freepers are the greatest. Nothing like good old fashioned anger and thirst for justice

Want to bet the very same sentiments are being expressed at demcom.

This is beyond politics.

452 posted on 07/19/2002 11:50:08 AM PDT by mware
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To: bvw
An evil object cannot be created, all objects are neutral

Sorry, no. Absolutely not.

Regardless the participant's choice to sell themselves, there is nothing whatsoever "moral" about pornography ... the depiction of live sex in a continuing limbo of fetishism and dehumanization to include orgy, homosexuality, sadism, bestiality, necrophilia and murder.

A certain amount of erotica is one thing. No doubt there will always be pornographers and pimps ready to make a buck on the helplessness of some and the addictions of others.

But there is absolutely no moral worth to pornography. Rather, it's an absolutely immoral action tending toward engendering of debased and desensitized desires in otherwise normal human beings who understand the unitive and procreative nature of sex.

I see no reason the State should -- citing the "science" of a sex industry based on scam artists like Freud, Rockefeller's favorite criminal and pornographer Kinsey or the Enlightened views of human wrecking balls like Rogers and Maslow ... not to mention Victims like poor Larry Flynt -- FORCE pornographers down our throats by stepping in to prevent folks from barring them from their neighborhoods, communities, cities or states.

Why don't we have the freedom to do that? Why is the State so intent on pressuring us to invite into our homes the lowlives and cheats more suited to helping the mob fleece rubes and compromise VIPs in hellholes like Las Vegas or New Orleans?

453 posted on 07/19/2002 11:50:45 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Howlin
We're discussing a current event; you're being an A**HOLE, as usual. Go away.

Oh, I'm sorry. I must not be politically correct enough for your tastes. But I think you know where you can take your juvenile ad hominem attacks.

454 posted on 07/19/2002 11:50:51 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: JessicaDragonet
When it's all said and done, we still have a dead little girl on our hands.


This piece of dog vomit needs to made an example of. We need to send a message to the rest of sexual deviants/pedo creeps/molesters in hiding behind their pathetic-ness, that we WILL NOT TOLERATE this kind of thing, period.


The sad fact is, because of the moral decay of our society, this is not the first time, nor will be the last.


The police were relentless in this case, and I applaud their heroic efforts. When the cops are out there, day in, day out doing a job few want to do, we only hear about the bad stuff that happens when one goes over the edge. However, we need to understand there are thouseands of law enforcement officials who do not sleep until cases are solved (like this one)

Corey
455 posted on 07/19/2002 11:50:52 AM PDT by corlorde
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To: Uni-Poster
http://158.61.133.2/criminal/defendantcharges.asp?courtcode=C&casenumber=RIF089563&defnbr=467075&defseq=1&mcnmsearch=Y&otnmseq=0&dsn=RYAN

Case info, sorry for mess, posting quickly
456 posted on 07/19/2002 11:51:07 AM PDT by Uni-Poster
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To: OldFriend
Green CAR. (:D)

(I made the same mistake)

457 posted on 07/19/2002 11:51:16 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: homeschool mama
My comment was to Askel's comments about pornography. Not about this particular murder.

For a mama, why are going off "half-cocked"?

458 posted on 07/19/2002 11:51:23 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Actually, if this guy does indeed have priors, and they let him go, it's going to stand our courts on end, and there will be total outrage! This I say with confidence.

And I ditto that. They'll have one mighty ANGRY Grandmother to deal with if this slime gets off. BTW, my deepest compliments to the Sheriff etal with the way this case has been handled!!!!

And I'll be happy to post the address of the Court House for any of you wanting to actually do that caravan we talked about a couple days ago.

459 posted on 07/19/2002 11:51:28 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: crystalk
"My info lists her as a Korean"

Well, everybody knows that Asians are smarter than everybody else. < /sarcasm >

460 posted on 07/19/2002 11:51:38 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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