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Beijing orders Chinese women who are married to Taiwanese to have abortions
Taipei Times ^ | 7-18-02 | Lin Miao-Jung

Posted on 07/17/2002 10:57:30 PM PDT by tallhappy

Beijing orders Chinese women who are married to Taiwanese to have abortions

HOLIDAY NIGHTMARE: Chinese birth-control personnel have forced at least six brides of Taiwan men to undergo pregnancy tests and ordered them to have abortions
By Lin Miao-Jung
STAFF REPORTER

Chinese brides of Taiwanese men who went to China to visit their families were ordered by Beijing to have abortions or to undergo surgery to have their fallopian tubes tied. They were also fined and threatened with punishment under China's one-child policy if they had more children, a Taiwan official said yesterday.

The Straits Exchange Foundation (SEF, ®ü°ò·|) yesterday distributed a news release to reporters saying that, since the beginning of last year, the foundation has received six complaints regarding such cases.

Patricia Lin (ªL²Q¶{), director of the SEF's Department of Legal Services, said yesterday the victims told the foundation that, if Chinese birth-control personnel found that a Chinese bride of a Taiwanese man already had one child, they would force her to undergo a pregnancy test and tell her to have an abortion if she is found to be pregnant.

According to Lin, Chinese birth-control personnel also told Chinese brides who already had given birth to two children to undergo surgery to have their fallopian tubes tied. The women were also fined and their children's identification cards were confiscated as punishment for violating China's family planning regulations.

In addition, even if such a bride was pregnant with her first child, the Chinese birth-control personnel would tell her to have an abortion because "they did not get permission from the government to give birth," which is required in China.

"The victims only described what the Chinese officials told them to do, but we don't know for a fact if anyone was truly forced to have an abortion because they keep it private," Lin said.

Lin said that China's birth-control personnel might not fully understand Taiwanese law, and viewed the Taiwan-based brides' babies as an added burden on an overpopulated China.

"Under current Taiwanese regulations, children from cross-strait marriages can be registered as permanent residents of Taiwan, so they won't be a burden to China," Lin said.

She added that China's actions have seriously abused the rights of those who are bound together in cross-strait marriages.

The SEF reminded these couples to prepare for similar treatment if they intend to visit China.

The foundation also sent a letter last week to its Chinese counterpart, the Association for Relations Across the Taiwan Strait (ARATS, ®ü¨ó·|), to ask it to protect the rights of Chinese brides.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: abortion; chicoms; china; chinastuff; forcedabortion; taiwan
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Lin said that China's birth-control personnel might not fully understand Taiwanese law, and viewed the Taiwan-based brides' babies as an added burden on an overpopulated China.

These Taiwanese officials are much to nice and polite.

The ChiComs are not doing this for population control reasons. It is a pure power play and way to control and dominate.

It is psychological and meant only to manifest their "authority" in the coarsest most inhumane form imaginable.

The barbarism and misanthropy of the Chinese government cannot be overstated.

1 posted on 07/17/2002 10:57:30 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: *China stuff; toenail
fyi
2 posted on 07/17/2002 11:00:22 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: tallhappy
Wait they are a partner, yeah right. Get our companies out of china now.

BEFORE CHINA JUST TAKES THEM ALL.

Which is their plan.
3 posted on 07/17/2002 11:04:35 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
They're not going to do that. It's about Globalism and the new world order. They're not going to let that happen. It's insane when a nation like China is given indefinite favored trading status with their forced abortions.

As you can see, it is part of the plan.

4 posted on 07/17/2002 11:08:45 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: tallhappy
This is just evil. The whole regime in China is just plain evil. Khmer Rouge, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Caligulan Rome, Mahmud of Ghor evil. They've commited so many crimes against humanity the last few decades: trashed cultures, destroyed religions and crushed the spirit of a whole nation. Yet even after the Great Leap Forward and the ensuing chaos, the Tiananmen Square Massacre and the horrible forced abortions or live birth deaths have all happened the world doesn't seem to care. Republicans and Democrats just care about business. Why is it so hard for this country to wake up and face the reality that China is just as big of a threat to civilization as runaway Islamic fundamentalism is. We can't trade away an enemy.
5 posted on 07/17/2002 11:12:48 PM PDT by ChicagoRepublican
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To: ChicagoRepublican
It's about deindustrialization and the new world order. The Bible speaks of a two hundred million man army. China has that capability.
6 posted on 07/17/2002 11:19:45 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: tallhappy
Chinese brides of Taiwanese men who went to China to visit their families were ordered by Beijing to have abortions or to undergo surgery to have their fallopian tubes tied.

Just because they went to visit family??

Good Lord

7 posted on 07/17/2002 11:24:21 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: tallhappy
Yes, this is who both parties have chosen to do business with. And when challenged the braintrusts on this forum suggested that corporations knew what was best for our economy several years ago. Now that the NASDAQ and the Dow are under severe downward pressure from malfeasance by major corporations, it would interesting to watch those defenses trotted out again.

Corporations DO NOT always have this nation's best interests at heart. They consider their corporation's interests first last and always.

8 posted on 07/17/2002 11:34:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: TLBSHOW
I've always wondered about what you just stated. What is stopping China from taking control of factories when (YES, I said WHEN) we finaly go to war with them? A toolmaking factory could be converted into a weapons factory. An automoblie factory will turn into a tank factory, clothing factories will be used to make military uniforms, etc. They will get all the tools, buildings, and semi-skilled workers for free. I know they are laughing at our shortsightedness and stupidity; they can't believe how easy it will be to defeat us.

All those manufactured goods we love so much (from clothes, toys, computers, etc.) will disappear from the shelves, our economy will go down the toilet, and we will have to rush to get a manufacturing base (not to mention skilled workers) back in our mainland. Can you imagine that generation of teenagers complaining about having to go to work?

9 posted on 07/17/2002 11:35:02 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Captainpaintball
Of course they will just take them like they just took these babies. How mush more do they want to take the factories from the stupid American fool that ever set foot there and set up shop.

How many small parts to run things are we dependent on China for now?

I have no idea but I bet there are some. Where would we get the flags from. I know it will never happen. And 911 would never of happened.
10 posted on 07/17/2002 11:46:53 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: tallhappy
AW, C'mon guys!

Don't ya just know if we follow the "Can't we all just get along " policies of the Congressional members of the Nationalist-Socialist, Communists and Independents that all the world leaders will come to their senses and throw away all their baby killing weapons and just acquiesce to "everything the Greenies and Commies and Nationalist-Socialists and Moderates and all the rest of the Idiot Brain-Dead SOBs of the world" want?

NOT!

11 posted on 07/17/2002 11:52:58 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: the_right_way
Of course I agree.

China is to Taiwan as Iraq is to Kuwait.

I should be more blunt at times.
14 posted on 07/18/2002 12:16:25 AM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Hey, this is where we're going. I can see the future headline now...."Democrats Determine Capitalism is in the Genes - Order Republican abortions"
15 posted on 07/18/2002 2:09:34 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: tallhappy
The ChiComs are not doing this for population control reasons. It is a pure power play and way to control and dominate.

Yes. They'd never try this on a U.S. resident.

In that case I'm sure the State Department would step up and defend them, just like they do with the Saudi's.
16 posted on 07/18/2002 3:55:56 AM PDT by self_evident
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And this dear pro abortion mongers is what it is all about.

You have a right to "bear" a child not a "right" to kill a child.

Sac

17 posted on 07/18/2002 4:02:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: tallhappy
Over the centuries, over two hundred viable civilizations have been intersected by Chinese expansion. Today not a single one of those civilizations exists. Anthropologists are still hard-pressed to understand the inherent insect-like monolithic need for obedience and a single mindset that has characterized China over the ages. Egocentricity reigns supreme. The universe is centered physically in China. Until we understand the ramifications of this mindset, we are on the road to joining those vanished several hundred civilizations.
18 posted on 07/18/2002 4:04:16 AM PDT by chemainus
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To: christine11
Over the centuries, over two hundred viable civilizations have been intersected by Chinese expansion. Today not a single one of those civilizations exists. Anthropologists are still hard-pressed to understand the inherent insect-like monolithic need for obedience and a single mindset that has characterized China over the ages. Egocentricity reigns supreme. The universe is centered physically in China. Until we understand the ramifications of this mindset, we are on the road to joining those vanished several hundred civilizations.
19 posted on 07/18/2002 4:33:22 AM PDT by chemainus
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To: chemainus
bttt
20 posted on 07/18/2002 4:57:45 AM PDT by MSSC6644
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