[tallhappy]

Lin said that China's birth-control personnel might not fully understand Taiwanese law, and viewed the Taiwan-based brides' babies as an added burden on an overpopulated China.

These Taiwanese officials are much to nice and polite.

The ChiComs are not doing this for population control reasons. It is a pure power play and way to control and dominate.

It is psychological and meant only to manifest their "authority" in the coarsest most inhumane form imaginable.

The barbarism and misanthropy of the Chinese government cannot be overstated.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

fyi

[TLBSHOW]

Wait they are a partner, yeah right. Get our companies out of china now.

BEFORE CHINA JUST TAKES THEM ALL.

Which is their plan.

[ChicagoRepublican]

This is just evil. The whole regime in China is just plain evil. Khmer Rouge, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Caligulan Rome, Mahmud of Ghor evil. They've commited so many crimes against humanity the last few decades: trashed cultures, destroyed religions and crushed the spirit of a whole nation. Yet even after the Great Leap Forward and the ensuing chaos, the Tiananmen Square Massacre and the horrible forced abortions or live birth deaths have all happened the world doesn't seem to care. Republicans and Democrats just care about business. Why is it so hard for this country to wake up and face the reality that China is just as big of a threat to civilization as runaway Islamic fundamentalism is. We can't trade away an enemy.

[Mo1]

Chinese brides of Taiwanese men who went to China to visit their families were ordered by Beijing to have abortions or to undergo surgery to have their fallopian tubes tied.

Just because they went to visit family??

Good Lord

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, this is who both parties have chosen to do business with. And when challenged the braintrusts on this forum suggested that corporations knew what was best for our economy several years ago. Now that the NASDAQ and the Dow are under severe downward pressure from malfeasance by major corporations, it would interesting to watch those defenses trotted out again.

Corporations DO NOT always have this nation's best interests at heart. They consider their corporation's interests first last and always.

[Vidalia]

AW, C'mon guys!

Don't ya just know if we follow the "Can't we all just get along " policies of the Congressional members of the Nationalist-Socialist, Communists and Independents that all the world leaders will come to their senses and throw away all their baby killing weapons and just acquiesce to "everything the Greenies and Commies and Nationalist-Socialists and Moderates and all the rest of the Idiot Brain-Dead SOBs of the world" want?

NOT!

[self_evident]

The ChiComs are not doing this for population control reasons. It is a pure power play and way to control and dominate.

Yes. They'd never try this on a U.S. resident.

In that case I'm sure the State Department would step up and defend them, just like they do with the Saudi's.

[chemainus]

Over the centuries, over two hundred viable civilizations have been intersected by Chinese expansion. Today not a single one of those civilizations exists. Anthropologists are still hard-pressed to understand the inherent insect-like monolithic need for obedience and a single mindset that has characterized China over the ages. Egocentricity reigns supreme. The universe is centered physically in China. Until we understand the ramifications of this mindset, we are on the road to joining those vanished several hundred civilizations.

[Flyer]

Chinese brides of Taiwanese men who went to China to visit their families were ordered by Beijing to have abortions

Remember, if you shop at Wal-Mart this is what you are helping to support. Don't buy Chinese products at Wal-Mart or anywhere else!

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[SlickWillard]

Welcome to the 21st century.

[fporretto]

There is nothing I could add to the comments already made about this outrage except...

Can't we take them out now, please? Before they do the same to other defenseless women in their country by happenstance -- or for that matter, to more of their own?

Is there anything that's more horrifying than a coerced abortion?

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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[ArrogantBustard]

Coerced abortion is infinitely more heinous than grilled kitty-kat. That thread went to several hundred posts. I bet this one doesn't break 50.

AB

[Demidog]

This is the kind of government some people wish America would become. That is why they support CPS agencies so vehemently. After all, if it saves one child......

[Ronaldus Magnus]

I hope the Republic of China has a few nukes of its own tucked away for that inevitable day when the People's Republic decides it's time to "reunify". Incinerated in a nuclear armageddon would be preferable to having one's family live under that regime. Let's pray that China soon has a real democratic revolution.

[flamefront]

From the Taiwan govt on Cross-Strait Relations
http://www.gio.gov.tw/taiwan-website/5-gp/yearbook/chpt07-4.htm

Organizational Structures

In addition to a clear set of principles and laws guiding the development of relations, appropriate channels of communication are also an obvious necessity. In 1990 and 1991, the ROC government set up a three-tier network of government and private-sector institutions to handle relations with the Chinese mainland. The National Unification Council was established in September 1990. Then, in January 1991, the Executive Yuan's Mainland Affairs Council ¦æ¬F°|¤j³°©eû·| (MAC) was formed. In February 1991, MAC approved the formation of a private non-profit organization, the Straits Exchange Foundation ®ü®l¥æ¬y°òª÷·| (SEF).

National Unification Council

The National Unification Council functions as an advisory board and provides the president with research findings and ideas. The NUC is generally headed by the president, with opposition party members as deputies, and respected civic leaders as members. The tenure for NUC members is one year, renewable at the president's discretion. As a multiparty board, the NUC attempts to reach a consensus on the reunification of China.

Mainland Affairs Council

The Mainland Affairs Council, a formal administrative agency of the Executive Yuan, is responsible for the overall planning, coordination, evaluation, and implementation of the ROC government's policy toward the Chinese mainland. As a decision-making body, it also oversees rules and regulations proposed by various ministries concerning cross-strait relations. MAC is headed by a chairman and three vice chairmen and is organized into seven departments and three divisions.

Straits Exchange Foundation

The Straits Exchange Foundation, headed by a chairman and drawing its funds from both the private sector and the government, is the only private organization authorized by the government to handle relations with the mainland. Nevertheless, the SEF currently deals only with matters of a technical or business nature that might involve the government's public authority, but would be inappropriate for the ROC government to handle under its policy of no official contacts with the mainland authorities. Accordingly, the SEF is not authorized to discuss political issues. "Policy dialogue," as exemplified by talks concerning the establishment of direct postal, commercial, and transportation links, is an area of relations that MAC may authorize the SEF to conduct on its behalf.

Such bureaucratic entanglements.

[Blood of Tyrants]

And not a word from the pro-"choice" groups.

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

"...even if such a bride was pregnant with her first child, the Chinese birth-control personnel would tell her to have an abortion because "they did not get permission from the government to give birth," which is required in China."

Am I the only one on this thread whose hair stood straight up in horror at that statement?

There are those who claim that Communist China is changing, liberalising, becoming kinder and gentler. But until the day comes that statements like that are obsolete forever, we would be wise to reject those contentions.

[Askel5]

I'm sick and tired of folks pointing a finger at China for what they do to their own when our government had made Legal Abortion a linchpin of BOTH domestic AND foreign population control policy since 1974.

No nation has done more -- including with the help of gabillions of dollars from the Gates and Turners and Buffets -- to spread worldwide the coercive "USaid" that are the "healthcare mechanisms" of abortion and birth control.

Simply because we enshrine in some lofty principle the mother-only "right" to seek abortions -- to the tune of over one million American lives aborted annually -- doesn't make for a substantive difference between our coercive and China's more forcible means of implementing population control strategies.

Quite frankly, I find the conditioning of folks to treat Evil as a Good the far more malevolent and despicable practice. At least the Chinese still must be forced to have abortions.

Over here we've taken to the Culture of Death like a duck to water ... to the point where the State is finally getting concerned: making noises now about how abortions really should be "reduced" and encouraging the Ideal Citizen (the homosexual) to marry and "procreate" courtesy of the Non-Person commodities market which makes ready-made and designer Potential Children available for those who can prove their Economic fitness for adding a dependent or two to their tax returns.

[arm958]

Lin said that China's birth-control personnel might not fully understand Taiwanese law, and viewed the Taiwan-based brides' babies as an added burden on an overpopulated China.

This line made me livid, as it apparently did to most of you who read it. Occasionally I think that we need to learn to grudgingly get along with China, since they are the up-and-coming power in Asia, whether we like it or not. Then I read something like this and rid myself of that foolish notion. They are barbarians. I wish more Americans would join me in refusing to buy Chinese goods.

[MD_Willington_1976]

"Beijing orders Chinese women who are married to Taiwanese to have abortions"

As a rebutal to Beijing...

Chinese women who are married to Taiwanese men order Beijing to SHUT THE HELL UP !! & MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!

Headline I would like to see...