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1 posted on 07/02/2002 8:21:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Our SauDi Buddies Wouldn't Take OBL Back .. I wonder why?
2 posted on 07/02/2002 8:23:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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"It's a joke. He's a crackpot," added Palmieri, now the chief spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee.

Lie through your teeth for the party cause - get promoted.

That's some friggin' classy show they're running.

4 posted on 07/02/2002 8:37:08 PM PDT by dead
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Clinton's regacy continues to grow daily. Hopefully history will have a more accurate reflection than what we've been treated to by our wonderful media. Also, either Gore knew about this and was part of the incompetance (my opinion) or he's an incompetant dolt of a liberal that "only wants to help you" but didn't know anything.(truth to that too). I guess it's also reasonable to assume a little of both.

Let's see the pass Gore gets from the media on this in the coming days. I bet we won't hear much from anyone other than Fox.
7 posted on 07/02/2002 8:42:36 PM PDT by mfreddy
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"He's lying," former Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said in May. "The guy has absolutely no credibility."

I wonder what it's like to be one of Bill Clinton's whores, yet never actually even get the benefit of some sexual action from him. That makes Palmieri even lower than Lewinsky.

8 posted on 07/02/2002 8:45:05 PM PDT by Timesink
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12 posted on 07/02/2002 8:55:24 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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bump
13 posted on 07/02/2002 8:55:54 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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But of course, we won't hear this story on "60 Minutes."
14 posted on 07/02/2002 8:57:47 PM PDT by mhking
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Jennifer "Squealer" Palmieri

Down (and I do mean down) on the farm.
16 posted on 07/02/2002 9:03:54 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom
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Ah, that's okay Bill, you can do no wrong.
Afterall, it was only about TERRORISM, and you had other work to do for the American people right?
17 posted on 07/02/2002 9:05:21 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Former ambassador to the Sudan Tim Carney confirmed Tuesday night that the Clinton administration refused an offer from the Sudanese government to hand over terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden in the late 1990's...


Perhaps, but considering the fact that George W. Bush was governor of the great state of Texas during this time frame, the real question is:

 

What did Governor Bush know and when did he know it?

18 posted on 07/02/2002 9:08:16 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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Ijaz has said that former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger and former Assistant Secretary of State for African affairs Susan Rice, as well as former Attorney General Janet Reno and ex-President Clinton himself, all deserve blame for mishandling the Sudanese offer to turn over bin Laden.

Now that I know so much more about this Susan Rice character (potential murderer), I'm praying that this story and all the other dots connected to these scumbuckets gets more play.

20 posted on 07/02/2002 9:16:59 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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   "He's lying," former Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said in May. "The guy has absolutely no credibility."
22 posted on 07/02/2002 9:24:54 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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"He's lying," former Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said in May. "The guy has absolutely no credibility."

And we're supposed to believe that Bubba DOES have credibility?

BTW Jen, you have a hair in your teeth.

23 posted on 07/02/2002 9:27:23 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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While the press has largely ignored Ijaz's claims, former Clinton officials have launched a fierce campaign to undermine his credibility and keep him from testifying to Congress.

Clinton's minions. Sigh. Will we EVER be free of the spin meistering? I wish they would all just dry up and blow away. They will never be held accountable. It's Washington DC, where the Mayor was elected after having been convicted of smoking crack, for crying out loud.

"He's lying," former Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said in May. "The guy has absolutely no credibility."

Clinton + no credibility. On this point I can agree.

He has dared the Senate Intelligence Committee to take his sworn testimony about the episode as part of their probe into pre-9-11 intelligence failures. But so far Democrats who control the investigation have declined to do so.

Well. Well. Well. From the party that wants to get to the bottom of everything these days. Enron. What did he know and when did he know it. Gag.

24 posted on 07/02/2002 9:29:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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Said Tim Carney:
"In fact, what was offered (by the Sudanese) was to expel bin Laden to Saudi Arabia ... and the Saudis, because he was such a hot potato, simply refused to handle him,"

In Saudi Arabia, the leadership, in general, are revolting from the decadence which they believe to have resulted from the peoples' too close a proximity to the American media [generation]. As such, the leaders feel threatened by "Americanization." The Saudis, however by their methods, seem to be intent upon committing suicide in the name of trying to "save" their Royal butts from "Western Culture."

Furthermore, the Saudis are afraid that the communist-supported fascist-Islamic revolution which over-threw the Shah of Iran, has grown enough in Arabia to over-throw the House of Saud.

Also, the Saudis figured to appease Saddam Hussein, whenafter the last throw of cruise missiles by Bill Clinton's attempt to diffuse the concentration of the American public upon his Impeachment Trial in the U.S. Senate ... Saddam appeared, at the minimum, to win ... and so the Saudis upped the price of oil as tribute to Saddam.

In a similar vein, the Saudis are attempting to appease the fascists among their neighbors, among their subjects, and among themselves --- by attacking western culture and the United States of America.

When the Saudis ought to be busting their butts, to gather up all the Taliban and Al-Qaeda before they do further harm.

Here's why.

In the event that a "human wave" attack, here, by these folks who "hate us," running fuel-laden fire trucks or tankers into local schools, or hospitals, or shopping malls, or apartment complexes ... how are Americans going to react?

The Bush [still running 75% of the Clinton] Administration will attempt to control the people.

The people, much to the surprise of the Bush [still running 75% of the Clinton] Administration, are going to feel differently. They're going to be lookin' around for who caused such a thing, and President Bush's pleadings on behalf of the House of Saud will not hold, nor control much of, the wrath.

Yet, the Saudis support[ed] Osama bin Laden.

The Saudis believe in using terrorism as an economic means; they will support terrorism, which is actually a sub-class of piracy, wherever it will effectively obstruct the "oil bidness" competition.

The Saudis are undeniably members of the Axis of Terrorism against which the United States is at war.

Save the people of Saudi Arabia who would rather fight for their peace and liberty, and a judicial system which is not a direct, as well as absolute, branch of Islam ...

Saudi Arabia is a relatively benign dictatorship, for now, having arrived their by not facing down the fascism within that has been coiling up to strike the whole of it.

At the same time, the fascists, there are, are loose upon the planet and wish not to be challenged on their missions of forcing subjigation.

Frustrated at losing control over their kingdom, the Saudis are taking it out on everybody else.

Too many among them wish to posture before the world well enough to cover their designs to gain the very weapons of mass destruction which we are all supposed to abhor in the hands of Saddam.

In the hands of the Saudis, we are going to be suffering the lot of think tanks in the Beltway who have suddenly been the beneficiaries of Saudi largesse --- and they will say that we can trust the Saudis.

The problem is not really that Saddam Hussein might develop nuclear weapons; the problem is that the Saudis have come close enough to buying them outright.

Israel is fast becoming the young child lashed to the front of a North Korean battle tank.

Failure of the United States to directly affect military power upon the enemies among the mid-Easteners who have attacked us, has left such peoples feeling quite heady about their purposes.

Nuclear weapons are no safer in the hands of the Saudis, than they are in the hands of the Saddamis.

The Beltway theorists who fancy that open trade with "the people" will elevate them to sufficient economic well-being that they will in turn affect truth, justice, and the way of democratic-republics that is that truth and justice will be enforced by these same people instead of their former dictators ... is a nice theory; but it has yet to be proven to work when the dictators are still in charge, in Red China, and in Saudi Arabia, who are the two most prominent foreign powers mucking about in support of terrorism in order that their energy axis "wins."

The dependency of the people upon their rulers, in those two countries, can be relied upon to be queued at the necessary time, to affect the level of revolution against real justice and liberty and the self-determination of such people.

We had thought that the Saudis wished us no ill-will, but having seen the destruction, here, to the contrary, what might be the most outstanding differences between the dictatorship their and in Red China?

After a review of the totalinarism of both, there is but the Red Chinese veneer that they "come in peace" and the Saudi appearance to believe in God but certainly not a loving God.

If the Saudis were our friends, they could have themselves captured Osama bin Laden and most of his cohorts, very early on; nope, instead, the Saudis have found terrorism useful and are continuing to aid it; much as the Red Chinese are aiding the "Islamic" revolutionaries of the Southwest Pacific Rim.

Both the Saudis and the Red Chinese know that the weak gut of business, will trade as a first priority over all such considerations which would otherwise give pause.

See: Islam - Study Warns of Stagnation in Arab Societies, New York Times, July 2, 2002, by Barbara Crossette (posted by swarthyguy).

See: [Arab] Businessmen hit out at US move to target Saudis, Arab News, July 1, 2002, by Dhafir Al-Julfan (posted by SJackson).

See: Are too many Muslims in denial about September 11?, The Telegraph (U.K.), by Barbara Amiel, Mar. 4, 2002 (posted by Pokey78).

26 posted on 07/02/2002 9:39:50 PM PDT by First_Salute
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Um to whom did Carney say those things. Carney has been talking for years about Sudan , which, though is had never before shown itself friendly or helpful to the US, said it wanted to share some 'information' on bin Laden ,but not that they would hand him over.

Why is Carney just now changing his story on Sudan-bin Laden and to whom? NewsMax does not say. Are they claiming he stood in the shadows Deep Throat like and talked only to them?


I have found many 'mistakes' in NewsMax's reporting and don't trust it. It seems to be written by amateurs who caught some rich people's interest because the 'journalists' there don't worry too much about what is the truth.
29 posted on 07/02/2002 9:50:03 PM PDT by Small business person from CA
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This is the clincher tying Clinton's neglect of terrorist activities to 9/11. The DNC is going to defame this guy and protest his statements on this until hell freezes over. Hope we get other independent corroboration.
35 posted on 07/02/2002 10:32:21 PM PDT by Rockitz
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"He's lying," former Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said in May. "The guy has absolutely no credibility...It's a joke. He's a crackpot."

Sums up the whole Clinton presidency, doesn't it?


36 posted on 07/02/2002 10:38:24 PM PDT by ppaul
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Cross-linked:

Bush and Clinton and 911- some facts...

40 posted on 07/03/2002 1:31:52 AM PDT by backhoe
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"He's lying," former Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said in May. "The guy has absolutely no credibility."

"It's a joke. He's a crackpot," added Palmieri, now the chief spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee.

Asked to respond to Ijaz's account in January, Clinton National Security Counsel adviser Nancy Soderberg told Fox News Channel's Laurie Dhue, "He's living in a fantasy land. There was no such Sudanese offer."

Paging Ms. Coulter, Ms. Coulter!

If Lott can't get Ijaz and Carney in front of one or more of the Senate Panels that are going on right now, then I think that will verify a suspicion of mine that Daschle or Hillary has pictures of Trent in drag.

41 posted on 07/03/2002 2:01:41 AM PDT by crusher999
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