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Slavery reparations revisited
mail article | 6.28.02 | Fred Reed

Posted on 06/28/2002 12:45:48 PM PDT by meandog

Hello Everyone...........I only sent this to those who would be open minded enough to read this and judge for yourself the merits of the article without accusing me of being insensitive. I thought the article interesting.............that's all.

Slavery Reparations
by Fred Reed

On the Web I find that Henry Louis Gates Jr., the chairman of Afro-American Studies at Harvard, is demanding that whites, pay reparations to blacks. It's because of slavery, see. He is joined in this endeavor by a gaggle of other professional blacks.

I guess he'll send me a bill. Huh? I feel like saying, Let me get this straight, Hank. I'm slow. Be patient. You want free money because of slavery, right?

I don't blame you. I'd like free money too. Tell you what. I believe in justice. I'll give you a million dollars for every slave I own, and another million for every year you were a slave. Fair enough? But tell me, how many slaves do you suppose I have? In round numbers, I mean. Say to the nearest dozen. And how long were you a slave?


In other words, I owe you reparations for something that I didn't do and didn't happen to you. That makes sense. Like lug nuts on a birthday cake.

Personally, I think you owe me reparations for things you didn't do and never happened to me. I've never been coated in Dutch chocolate and thrown from the Eiffel Tower. I'll bet you've never done it to anyone.

I want reparations. Kinda silly, isn't it?

But if we're going to talk about reparations, that's a street that runs in two directions. You want money from me for what some other whites did to some other blacks in another century. How about you guys paying whites reparations for current expenses caused by blacks? Not long ago blacks burned down half of Los Angeles, a city in my country. Cities are expensive, Hank. Build one sometime and you'll see what I mean. Whites had to pay taxes to repair Los Angeles for you.

You can send me a check.

Now, yes, I know you burned LA because you didn't like the verdict in the trial of those police officers. Well, I didn't like the verdict in the Simpson trial. But I didn't burn my house and loot Korean grocers. Over the years blacks have burned a lot of American cities: Newark, Detroit, Watts, on and on. Now add in the fantastic cost over the years of welfare in all its forms, of large police forces and jails and security systems in department stores.

I can't live in the capital city of my own country because of crime committed by blacks. Toss in the cultural cost of lowering standards in everything for the benefit of blacks.

See what I mean?

Now, I'd view things differently if you said, "Fred, blacks can't get anywhere in a modern country without education. We know that. We need better schools, smarter teachers, harder courses, books with smaller pictures and bigger words.

Can you help us"?

I'd say, "Hallelujah! Hoo-ahh! Not just yes, but hell yes. Let's sell an aircraft carrier and get these folks some real schools and get them into the economic mainstream.

"I'd say it partly because it would be the right thing to do, and partly, because I'd like to add you guys to the tax base. The current custodial state is expensive. I'd just love for blacks to study and learn to compete and stop burning places.

But is it going to happen?

You may not believe it, but I, and most whites, don't like seeing blacks as miserable and screwed up as they are. I spend a fair amount of time in the projects. Those places are ugly. It's no fun watching perfectly good kids turn into semi-literate dope dealers who barely speak English. It just plain ain't right.

But, Hank, what am I supposed to do about it? I can't do your children's homework. At some point, people have to do things for themselves, or they don't get done.

Maybe it's time.

I'll tell you what I see out in the world, Hank. I think blacks are too accustomed to getting anything they want by just demanding it. True, it has worked for over half a century. Get a few hundred people in the street, implicitly threaten to loot and burn, holler about slavery, and the Great White Cash Spigot turns on.

Thing is, whites don't much buy it any longer. Most recognize that what once was a civil-rights movement has become a shake- down game. Few people still feel responsible for the failings and inadequacies of blacks. Political correctness keeps the lid on-- but everyone knows the score.

Which scares me, Hank. On one hand, blacks hate whites and incline toward looting and burning. (The whites you hate a! re the ones who marched in the civil-rights movement. Ever think about that?)

On the other hand, whites quietly grow wearier and wearier of it.

Not good.

On the third hand (allow me three hands, for rhetorical convenience), blacks keep demanding things. As I write, you demand reparations for slavery. Blacks in Oklahoma (I think it was) want money for some ancient race riot. Other blacks reject the Declaration of Independence, blacks in New York hint broadly at burning and looting over a trial, yet more demand the elimination of the Confederate flag, and the federal equal-opportunity apparatus, which means blacks, wants to sue Silicon Valley for not hiring nonexistent black engineers.

That's a lot of demanding for one month, Hank. What happens if whites ever say, "No"?

Now, how about you? You've got a cushy job up there at Harvard, and you can hoot and holler about what swine and bandits whites are. I guess it's lots of fun, and you get a salary for it. But don't you think you might do blacks more good if you told them to complain less and study more? For example, if you want blacks to work in Silicon Gulch, the best approach might be to find some really smart black guys, and get them to study digital design, not Black Studies.

That's how everybody else does it. It works. Then blacks wouldn't feel left out, and racial tension would decline.

Sound like a plan?

Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do professors of Afro-American Studies spend in the projects, encouraging poor black kids to study real subjects, Hank?


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An editorial I wish I'd wrote...
1 posted on 06/28/2002 12:45:48 PM PDT by meandog
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To: mhking
Thought you'd like this...
2 posted on 06/28/2002 12:48:57 PM PDT by meandog
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To: meandog
Has anyone seen detailed arguments in favour of reparations? Usually for any cause you can find someone articulate enough to put together an essay that at least sounds like a well-reasoned stance for a position (until you look into facts that are conveniently omitted from the presentation), but I cannot even think of a rational-sounding argument that could be made for reparations.
3 posted on 06/28/2002 12:51:06 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; South40; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; ...
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4 posted on 06/28/2002 12:51:24 PM PDT by mhking
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To: meandog
You know, at one point, I had a lot of respect for Henry Louis Gates.

Then again, at one point, I was a snot-nosed college kid who was just as liberal as the rest of the sheep being led around by the race warlords, too.

Too bad education is wasted on so-called "black intelligensia" like Gates.

5 posted on 06/28/2002 12:53:13 PM PDT by mhking
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To: meandog
Reed's website is here: Fred on Everything.

Columns here: Fred's Columns.

And this column here: Reparations for blacks: why?. (he also calls it "Blacks And The Politics Of Racial Extortion: Will It Work Forever?") It is one of several columns he has written on this theme.

I think this old article has already been posted under the above title(s).


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6 posted on 06/28/2002 12:59:42 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: meandog
good post. But there are two parts to their illogic. The first are the problems you pointed out. They were never slaves, No one alive today has owned slaves, therefore we owe them nothing. The second problem here is that they are only targeting the U.S. The Brits had slaves long long before we did, and Africa is still doing it! But not one person has bugged these countries for reparations. Just another anti-America group trying to villify our country.
7 posted on 06/28/2002 1:01:03 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: meandog
Perhaps they should consider themselves indebted to their "masters" for helping them escape a life of corrupt governments and mass starvation. Otherwise, former slaves may have not been able to reproduce, allowing them to grow up free from untimely death and disease.
8 posted on 06/28/2002 1:07:42 PM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: goodieD
Why is it never mentioned that the ones who captured blacks in 18th and 19th century Africa and sold them into slavery were arab muslims? They still practice slavery in some muslim countries, Sudan being one example. But black muslims seem to be the ones who holler the most about how they have been so oppressed by whites.
9 posted on 06/28/2002 1:14:56 PM PDT by gracie1
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To: meandog
I consider Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams possessed of three of the finest minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, all are black.

So far as I can tell, Keyes, Sowell and Williams oppose this idiotic call for reparations.

The modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions who are now calling for reparations need to remember a few things:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE !

Had they NOT been sold to the slave traders, the blood of their ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago and these modern day would-be "plaintiffs" would not even exist.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of the approximately 3,000 SLAVE OWNING BLACK plantation owners in this country also be subject to PAYING these reparations?

If so, how do we find THEM?

Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice:
“Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

What about the millions STILL living in slavery, held there by members of THEIR OWN RACE in Africa and elsewhere today?

And how about the MILLIONS of WHITES and ASIANS who have slavery in their backgrounds?

Next problem!

10 posted on 06/28/2002 1:17:40 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: gracie1
No one can every accuse these people of caring about the facts.
11 posted on 06/28/2002 1:20:31 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: Dick Bachert
Wow..I wasn't aware that Mr. Haley felt that way. Good to know. Thanks for your input.
12 posted on 06/28/2002 1:22:36 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: goodieD
I think Hank owes me a check for my not being present in the country when his people were oppressed.
13 posted on 06/28/2002 1:24:49 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Dick Bachert
Robert Hitt Neill? The author or "The Flaming Turkey" and "Going Home"?

I'd ride with him in a Jeep. Excellent writer.

14 posted on 06/28/2002 1:33:47 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: goldstategop
hey we could start a whole business with this. "Reparations R Us". Wait, sorry.. Jesse J already started that one.
I want a check from Germany for my not being a Jew during WWII.
15 posted on 06/28/2002 2:06:14 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: mhking
Thanks for the ping.

I've challenged some of my friends in the reparations crowd to tackle some of the very real educational problems that Black children face right here, right now. They usually just blame the problem on the "Eurocentric" school system and leave it for us more pragmztic-minded folks to deal with.

16 posted on 06/28/2002 2:14:31 PM PDT by mafree
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To: Dick Bachert
You just gave me a great idea for a bumper sticker:


17 posted on 06/28/2002 2:36:53 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: Dimensio
Look for stuff by Randall Robinson or Cornel West. Both are big reparations baiters. And both present superficially "convincing" arguments. There is no substance once the surface is peeled away, to be sure, but their idiocy is entertaining, and usually well written.
18 posted on 06/28/2002 3:12:47 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: meandog
For lack of anything else, I watched Entertainment Tonight last night. They showed scenes from the Black Entertainment Awards (or whatever it's called.) My thought - when I saw all the designer dresses and genuine jewelry - was that these sure were some "oppressed" black people! Geez. The poorest of them makes more than I ever will in my life.

I understand that some black entertainers return some time and money to the black community, but I haven't heard any of them speak for or against reparations. IMO the silence is deafening.
19 posted on 06/28/2002 3:26:39 PM PDT by serinde
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To: meandog
Republican party was founded to oppose expansion of slavery into the territories in the 1850s.

The following excerpts are from Vernon Wharton, The Negro in Mississippi (1865-1890). They describe the end of Reconstruction in Mississippi:

"Once the general policy had been adopted [by self styled Redeemers] that Negro and Republican control of state government was to be broken at any cost, a number of methods were followed for its accomplishment. One of these involved the intimidation of those whites who still worked with the Republican party . . . As early as December 1874 the Hinds County Gazette declared that death should be meted out to those who continued their opposition. 'All other means having been exhausted to abate the horrible condition of things [Republican rule effected by a white Republican coalition with newly freed African Americans] the thieves and robbers and scoundrels, white and black, deserve death and ought to be killed . . . The thieves kept in office by [Republican] Governor Ames . . . ought to be compelled to leave the State or abide the consequences.' p. 185


"Against the Negroes themselves one of the most poweerful forces used was economic pressure, All over the state, Democratic clubs announced that no Negro who voted Republican could hope for any form of employment the following year . . .

"[T]he democratic leaders of the state, while they often denied the existence of violence, or tried to shift the blame for it to Negroes, never actually repudiated its use . . . [T]he Democratic press adopted the slogan, 'Carry the election peaceably if we can, forcibly if we must." . . . Democratic clubs provided themselves with the latest style of repeating rifles." p. 187

A few nights later, the Republicans endeavored to hold a meeting in Yazoo city. Their hall was invaded by a number of Democrats, led by their 'rope bearer,' H. M. Dixon. In the confusion which followed a native white Republican was killed, and several Negroes were wounded. The white sheriff escaped with his life by fleeing to Jackson. White militia then took charge of the county, and systematically lynched the Negro leaders in each superior's district. p. 191.
The Republican Party fought to free the slaves, indeed, Republicans created a Party to protest slavery. White Christians were in the forefront of the fight against slavery. Conde Rice's grandfather became a Republican when the Democrats wouldn't let him register to vote in the Jim Crow south. The historical revisionism is keeping black Americans in bondage. The jealousy, hate and victimization incited by the black "leaders" in the inner cities is anti-Biblical and will always produce nothing but death and poverty. The same "preaching" didn't work for Stalin and it will never work in third world and Arab nations.

The gggrandparents of todays' ungrateful young people, both black and white, would be shocked at our complaining in the face of such freedom and opportunity, forgetting those who suffered and died for us, and blind to our blessings. We whine. Mr. Gates's gggrandmother would have slapped him upside the head for his ingratitude...and rightly so (mine would, too).

20 posted on 06/28/2002 4:16:06 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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