Posted on 06/23/2002 12:52:24 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
Last night during a conversation/debate between myself and the leader/owner of the Free Republic, Jim Robinson, a rather stunning revelation was brought forth. I asked Mr. Robinson, which Republicans were vocally backing, and supporting Tancredo in his fight for our sovereignty? After some delay, Jim answered, I have no idea. Immigration is not a big concern of mine.
This is from the man that runs the most well known, and respected, political conservative internet forum in the United States? And Mr. Robinson resides in California?
Below is the exchange
Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack The Chicago Sun-Times | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser
To: Jim Robinson
#939: Oh, so the Republicans are fighting for our sovereignty? Besides Tancredo, which Republicans are these Jim? If you could be specific.
#1034: Which ones are not ?
#1056: You never answered my question Jim.
Since you failed to answer my question, I will go first.
Given thirty years of this open border, immigration "free for all" that has resulted in many millions entering our nation illegally, I believe there are very few Republicans, or anyone else in DC, besides Tancredo, that are visibly and vocally fighting for our national sovereignty.
Now would you care to tell me which Republicans are standing with Tancredo and voicing outrage against this titanic, never ending invasion of illegal aliens?
1056 posted on 6/22/02 11:09 PM Pacific by Joe Hadenuf [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1034 | View Replies | Report Abuse
To: Joe Hadenuf
I have no idea. Immigration is not a big concern of mine.
1109 posted on 6/22/02 11:43 PM Pacific by Jim Robinson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1056 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
At first I as was stunned, angry, and felt let down. Then after some thought I wasnt too surprised.
Looking back at all the hundreds of immigration threads where many were deleted, disappeared and sent to the cornfield, I guess I am not too surprised. However, given the gravity and danger this country faces regarding this out of control, titanic immigration issue, I am still outraged, disheartened and saddened by Mr. Robinsons response. Thread after thread Freepers have displayed genuine outrage and honest concern regarding this issue. And the outrage and insanity regarding this issue goes far beyond the Free Republic.
Its escalated to the point now where many of our major cities in this country, such as Chicago, have now approved the use of identification cards, issued by Mexican consulates that will give illegal aliens access to financial and public services and more, as our so-called leaders stand treasonously silent, as our sovereignty is slowly dismantled.
This massive invasion of millions of illegal aliens has changed the face of many of our once great cities, from California to Illinois, to Georgia, to Tennessee, to Texas etc etc.
They are crowding our already over crowded classrooms, voting in our elections, choking off our social services, driving down the wages, while driving up our taxes, filling our jails, standing room only in many big city emergency rooms, etc, etc, etc. I personally know of six American citizens that have become victims of illegal alien crime, from having family members slaughtered on our highways by drunk driving illegal aliens, to stabbings, robberies and common burglaries.
And just recently, another young Deputy Sheriff was shot through the face and killed in California by an illegal alien, that has again fled back to the safety of Mexico. It has now been learned that this individual has already been deported three times, each time he has returned and committed more crimes in our country, leaving American victims in his wake, and each time he fled back to the safety of Mexico.
There are many forms of terrorism, and this continued invasion of millions upon millions is one form. And it's my opinion that its one of the most dangerous, most threatening issues facing America today. Even today as we speak, our federal government continues to allow in almost 8000 Middle Eastern men a month on visas. It is my opinion that this legal and illegal immigration free for all must be, stopped, extremely limited, and reformed immediately!
Again, I am extremely saddened and distressed by Mr. Robinson's response and lack of concern regarding this issue.
I hear ya. Certain populations are voluntarily receding.
It all boils down to abortion.
God will not be mocked, you know?
I am sure Jim thanks you for that, as I too have donated several times to the FR cause. Maybe Jim will go a little easier on me now.. :)
And do you think for one minute that they wil concern themselves with who is and who isn't a conservative when they launch the next attack? Just like they didn't care what color people were who got blown up in the WTC on 9/11 or even whether or not they WERE Americans, neither will they care about the political and moral ideology of any of us. We all represent the same thing to them, and while we can heap a lot of the responsibility on the liberals, we are in a way just as guilty because we have allowed it to go on for as long and to the extreme that it has. It isn't that there are so many more of them than there are of us, its just that they have louder mouths and lower morals so they are not constrained by matters of ethics.
Hepatitis is an infection of the liver which is transmitted almost exclusively by blood or semen. If you don't have sex or share needles with an infected person, you are probably not going to get hepatitis. TB is a very curable disease and the last immigrants who brought in small pox were the white settlers and the disease almost wiped out the indians.
Been their done that. And I am confident that you are not talking about illegal aliens, right?
If you don't mind me asking, are you a California native?
And just so me and you see eye to eye, I want to tell you I was raised in one of the hardest neighborhoods in the Los Angeles area. Not to far from what was known at one time as the senseless murder district. Most all of my friends back in my old neighborhood were Americans of Mexican descent. I was one of the few white guys in the neighborhood. A lock your doors and keep moving neighborhood. I not only partied with them, I fought and rolled in the mud with them, got into trouble with them, and attended one of their very untimely funerals, and I did a few other things with them, that I wont mention here....Someday I would like to tell you in person.
Those were good days for me and I actually still have a few scares as reminders. Most were good friends, and one of them, I still see from time to time.
I have since moved away from the neighborhood where I was raised, and have been fortunate enough to live in a very nice area of Calfiornia now. I now have new friends and two of my best buddies are Americans of Mexican descent.
You may have possibly seen me go sideways from time to time when some lumberhead starts beating his gums crying racism and all this other nazi BS because they dislike my position on illegal immigration. Believe me if you want Jim, but most of the Mexican Americans that I have bumped around with feel the same way I do about this continued, massive invasion of millions.
LOLOL! We know better. :)
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