"THAT which you believe"---"An open letter to Republicans"

6/23/02 | redrock

[redrock]

"This is free ground. All the way from here to the Pacific Ocean. No man has to bow. No man born to royalty. Here we judge you by what you do, not by who your father was. Here you can be something. Here's a place to build a home. It isn't the land--there's always more land. It's the idea that we all have value, you and me, we're worth something more than the dirt. I never saw dirt I'd die for, but I'm not asking you to come join us and fight for dirt. What we're all fighting for, in the end, is each other."

What is it that you believe???

A real question....since so many times on this forum, and others, the Republican 'mantra' has become a simple one.

Defeat the Democrats..whatever the cost..the Democrats are the enemy...(sort of Orwellian in it's simplicity)..repeated time after time...and anyone who dares to ask questions of George Bush's policies and actions is loudly shouted down.

But here's a 'news flash' for ya.......It may be that the Democratic Senators...Representitives.....leaders ARE the enemy of maintaining a Constitutional Republic.

But...the average member of the Democratic Party...is not.

The average member of the Democratic Party is just brainwashed..(for want of a better word)...

Just like the average member of the Republican Party is in danger of becoming.

"This is a party, this Republican Party, a Party for free men, not for blind followers, and not for conformists. "

So..I'll ask my very simple questions once again......

And Republicans who wish to rant and rave about 'third party' this or that...go right ahead.

But George W. Bush barely won the last election.....

You NEED staunch conservatives ( nowadays I guess we would be considered 'radical'.....) to help re-elect him....and others of the party..

CONVINCE us.........that at a certain point you will be willing to fight for 'old time values'.....

CONVINCE us ...that you have not become slavish followers of GWB...in much the same way as some did with Clinton....that you will ask the 'hard questions' (and demand the answers).

CONVINCE us.......and you will not do so by the constant dismissal of our very real concerns.

CONVINCE us.......

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So where do we 'draw the line'????

Should we elect rapists or murderers...if they are members of the Republican Party..and could 'help retake the Senate'???

At what point do you say 'this far and no further'???

Must every single American 'prostitute' themselves in order for one political party (one which on CLOSE examination is no different than the other one) to 'control' government???

I have certain values and beliefs...based upon my Belief in God.

Should I just throw those Beliefs and Values away...and close my eyes....just so the Republicans can win???

The basis of this Nation is a hardcore belief that the values and ideals (sorry to use that word..ideals...seems that word anymore has the same effect on Republicans as a Cross does to evil) that founded this Nation are important....

[redrock]

"Your asking for a line in the sand from a politician is wasted time."

NOT asking for answers from politician's.......they change their mind as often as some people change underwear.

But I AM asking the 'regular' guy...

redrock

[redrock]

Thank You.

redrock

[tricky_k_1972]

Thank you,

I've heard these rants all to often and they don' accomplish anything. people need to get off their buts and DO Something to help the party get back to its foundations, Not win the other parties elections for them.

[broomhilda]

First it is not a Democratic party. It is the Democrat party. Second this country is a Republic not a Democracy. In a democracy the majority rule. Majority rule is mob rule. Mob rule is CHAOS. "The cornerstone of the Republican philosophy is the belief that each person is responsible for their own place in our society. Individuals are encouraged by the Republican Party to work to secure the benefits of society for themselves, their families and for those who are unable to care for themselves. Democrats are more willing to subordinate individual rights to the assumed needs of the group. They assume that society collectively is responsible for each of its members. They place less emphasis on individual enterprise and initiative."
"Republicans believe that government should be limnited to doing for people those things which they cannot do for themselvwes. The right to determine individual destiny should lie in the hands of the individual. Similarly, Republicans believe governmental power and resources should be kept close to the people through their state and community leaders, rather than cetralized in distant big government." I am not that smart. This is from material put out by the California Republican Party, titled "Is there a difference?"
You can get the whole thing from The California Republican Party, 1903 West Magnolia Blvd., Burbank, CA 91506 or at www.cagop.org. You can also pick it up at any Republican registration table in So. California, at the mall where the Republican Women are registering Republicans for the 2002 election. If you don't know why you should be a Republican after you read it I only have one comment. Ignorance can be cured, stupidity is forever.

[redrock]

So sorry..it's not a 'rant'......

It's asking some questions...questions that some Republican's don't want to answer.

But by all means.....ignore all of us that have problems with GWB....and when he is not re-elected....I am sure we will hear from all of you as to why we didn't vote for him.

..and I'll bring some cheese to go with you whine.

redrock

[DoughtyOne]

When the Republicans take back the Senate, Lott has got to go. I've never agreed with anything more that you have intimated Nick. His allowing the other side to run the show was absolute pansiism at it's worst. The term spineless is actually a compliment to this shell of a man. Go Don Nickles.

[Japedo]

When the Republicans take back the Senate, Lott has got to go.

I think the RINO's have to go Period. They are crippling this party. IMHO

[tricky_k_1972]

I did answer your question in post 16, you just didn't like it. Again what do you propose and how will it work? I'm not GWB koolaid drinker. I know he has problems, but I also know the alternative has NOTHING in common with my beliefs. I will continue to work within my party to immprove it. What will you do?

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, it's time to send the Lotts and Jeffords packing. Give me men who'll stand up to clintonian ways.

[Japedo]

what people fail to realize is a RINO is a Masked "D", a socialist to the core.

Because the Republican party is a majority of RINOS we have the mess we are into day. I Have drawn the line. NO more Rinos.. they are not for the better.. they are enablers to the leftist landslide of leftist policy's as I see it, A Danger to the Party, and a Danger to a Truly Free Republic.

[blackie]

Hi Redrock, I like your questions.
First off, I'm not a Republican, I'm an Independent so the questions aren't directed to me.
I'll answer them anyway...

I've supported GWB from the get-go and I will until the end of his term in office: six plus years from now...
I like the guy, he ain't perfect, who is...the last perfect person was hung on a cross, jabbed in the side with a spear and given vinegar to drink.

GWB wants the same things we all want, there will be no overnight transformation of the Ship Of State.
It has taken many years to get in the position we're in and short of a revolution, it will take quite a few more for a metamorphosis to take place.

We have to have a goal, enroll others in that goal and do something today that will forward the action to accomplish that goal.
Take risks, step outside of the (box of options) "box" and create.

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

[seenenuf]

..do something..?

Easiest thing to 'do', is to drive my 'freerepublic.com'
bumper sticker around town. The second easiest thing is to not be afraid to disagree with a Socialist idea, that is presented within a conversation. Lost a couple of 'friends' that way. They wanted to stay ignorant, so be it.

[savedbygrace]

What if millions of registered Republicans changed their affiliation to Democrat and voted the incumbent Dim out of office in the primary?

If pubbies in four or five states did this, it could xhange the balance of power.

Nah, sounds like something Dims would do.

[tricky_k_1972]

Socialist Idea?

Sorry, I missed something in the translation. Please explain.

[DoughtyOne]

Trent Lott is a man with no core principles. Then are are others who do lean left like Jeffords. They are both worthless. Give me ten good men with fire in the belly. They'll spark the rest. We are currently lacking those men. As far as I am concerned Hastert is as bad as Lott. If he can't lead he should get out of the way. The Speaker of the House should be leading the nation. During the Clinton years he was the titular head of the Republicans, the closest we had to the throne. Utter silence was all he could muster. Today he's quite because we have a Republican President. But he could be more publicly supportive. THE BOOT!

[tricky_k_1972]

Let me be first say"BRING BACK NEWT"

Thank you.

[Randjuke]

Doughty, you must have got a good night's sleep, your post 17 makes a lot of sense (also the ones about getting rid of Lott). As one of the many you were tweaking on that marathon thread of last night, I like the idea of finding common ground but it seems many on both sides are not ready for that, and I confess I don't know how to change that. Your post is a good start, though.

[Nick Danger]

people need to get off their buts and DO Something to help the party get back to its foundations

I think that in turn comes back to the voters. In the end, "the party" is just a bunch of people trying to get elected. The reason there are so many RINOs is that there are so many people who vote for RINOs.

I believe that we are winning this struggle, but it is a long, slow process. It is essentially a struggle against a media establishment that has chosen to become the propaganda arm of our political opponents. From Global Warming to Tailwind to feminist claptrap, all that most people have heard for many decades is the liberal spin on events. That is now starting to change... partly because of the Internet, and partly because of Rush Limbaugh -- whose success demonstrated to Rupert Murdoch that there was a huge unserved market out there that could be as easily tapped via television as by radio. That gave us Fox News, whose roaring ratings success is finally causing the ground to crack around the leftist media monolith that for too long controlled almost everything people read or heard in this country.

I think half the battle is just having media outlets of size with which to get our side of the story out. Conservatives have not had that. The Internet has turned out to be a big surprise in this area... it's a much more influential medium than people saw coming, and we here at Free Republic have been a big part of that. People rant about "keyboard cowboys" not doing anything, but I think that except for our serious kookburgers, we provide a reasonable place where people on the fence can hear a side to stories that they're not going to get from their AP-supplied newspaper, and certainly not from Dan Rather and his ilk. I think this has value.

To me, a big part of "getting the party back to its foundations" is continuing to pound away at the voters... giving them a side to the news that they haven't heard -- and won't hear -- from the Press Democrat. My belief is that half of the population is fundamentally, natively hard-wired to accept conservative politics if they hear it well-articulated. For many years they had not. But now we, right here on FR, can participate in the media revolution that is finally giving conservative politics a voice that can be heard. Let the CNN's and the ABC's continue to stack their news shows with Clinton cronies and DNC hacks; they are no longer the only game in town, and they can no longer do these things without suffering for it. Let's help them suffer.

Where the voters go, the party will go. My suspicion is that most of the people who vote for RINOs are native, hard-wired conservatives who vote the way they do because they live in a sea of liberal media; they are as far to the right as a liberal media ever articulates. Bring them less liberal media, and they will move right. Let them hear conservative policies described as something other than the heartless throwing of widows and orphans into the street, and they will vote for these policies.

Move the RINOs and we move the party. I really think it's that simple.

[tricky_k_1972]

Amen, couldn't have said it better.

[christine]

great post! thanks for the alert!

:) i haven't had time to read the thread yet, but i'm sure the battle is in progress.