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Tom Roeser's credentials as an undoubted conservative Republican simbly cannot be challanged without the challanger running the risk of sounding like a crackpot.

He is a politically-savvy commentator who is often Seen and heard on local radio and TV in the Chicago area and so is a known quantity.

1 posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:06 AM PDT by quidnunc
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2 posted on 06/22/2002 9:47:47 AM PDT by quidnunc
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Thanks for the post, quidnunc, it sums up my feelings very well and much better than I could have. The remainder of the article is also worth a read, especially by those Republicans who are threatening to vote Democrat because "it doesn't make any difference".
3 posted on 06/22/2002 9:55:22 AM PDT by Randjuke
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To: quidnunc
Unfortunately, far too many "conservatives" have seen the movie "Braveheart" which is why you see true conservatives joking, schmoozing and generally getting along with the loyal opposition while those in the former category adopt the slash and burn philosophy of politics. (It's also the reason why the former are forever bitterly disappointed and have very little, if any, influence).
4 posted on 06/22/2002 9:57:00 AM PDT by SBeck
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Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions

Give me a break!

I think the count is eleven (11) and rising daily or weekly depending on the depth of your conservatism.

5 posted on 06/22/2002 10:02:55 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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He has done so on three notable occasions

Well that is one convenient memory....the farm bill and the education bills are anything but conservative and as egregious as the steel quotas.

Except for 9/11 and related matters, Bush has at best been a mediocre President thus far....but mediocre is not all that bad, as there has been one outstanding President, two horrible, and the remaining mediocre since 1968.

6 posted on 06/22/2002 10:06:29 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: quidnunc
I love the articles you find.
8 posted on 06/22/2002 10:09:00 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: rintense; Howlin; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom; Texasforever; Grampa Dave; Mo1; kayak; kitkat; swheats; ..
PING
9 posted on 06/22/2002 10:09:17 AM PDT by MJY1288
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The whole article sounds like a "My Party, right or wrong" speech. It is true that sometimes compromise with an opposing party must be done. However, no matter how much this President "dips in" to the Democratic Liberal agengda...The Dem's will not be satisfied and only want MORE consessions. Strong Conservative support elected Bush, and I too fear he is loosing his "grassroots" due to the onslaught of Liberal policies.


For the writer to say many Conservatives that voted for Bush just do not understand and "stay in their ivory towers", without critisizing policies, is laughable. Conservative voters are not stupid....many speak out because "turning the other cheek" is not, and has not worked for a long time.
12 posted on 06/22/2002 10:10:59 AM PDT by JustSayNoNWO
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I may not like or agree with every policy decision Bush has made, but he has my undying support as President. I will never forget what Clinton did to this country and how he laid waste to our defense and squandered the credibility of the high office he held. To those conservative who would whine about Dubya, think of what the alternative almost was.
23 posted on 06/22/2002 10:19:54 AM PDT by ShandaLear
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3 times? Our count is up to 11 or 12 and some of them have been such doozies, such as the education bill, the farm subsidies and campaign finance reform (there's 3 already) that I doubt I will even consider voting for the man again in the general election. He's blown it and I said if W blows it, then never again. I'll take the communists and then we can get on with the final purge of leftism in this country for long while.
25 posted on 06/22/2002 10:20:06 AM PDT by DeathtoAraratHamasHizbollah
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Bu$h love$ to $pend doe$n't he?
How much for AID$ in Africa?
Would it be too much to a$k for another mea$ly $300 tax break?
30 posted on 06/22/2002 10:21:54 AM PDT by rockfish59
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I still don't understand why some conservatives choose to be loopy idealists like those peacenik fruitcakes during the 60s. I have always thought of conservatives as being the grown-up party-- with the pragmatism and wisdom that comes with being grown-up. The thought that some would throw temper tantrums like toddlers do is really beyond my comprehension, and defies all logic. Politicians are vote whores. Holding your vote hostage against them will just make them go to someone who will give them his or her vote.

It may be a pathology of being happiest when being the most discontented.

35 posted on 06/22/2002 10:23:23 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether.

If a president cannot do something so FUNDAMENTAL and BASIC to the primary responsibilities of the office of presidency--meaning the protection of America’s sovereignty as a nation, then he will never get my vote again. I can overlook a hell of a lot of his social spending and his trampling of the constitution but failing to protect America’s borders and, worse, openly encouraging more illegal immigration with amnesties, immigrant welfare and a steadfast refusal to enforce our immigration laws is just TOO MUCH.

46 posted on 06/22/2002 10:35:02 AM PDT by WRhine
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I'd make a sharp distinction between those who say, "Mr. President, {insert name of policy} is a step in the wrong direction" -- call them the loyal opposition, or sincere but disappointed friends -- and the lunatic fringe, perpetually seething because their special 1% gets no respect.

Laz, IMHO you're in the first category. Put on your pants, get over here and say something.

50 posted on 06/22/2002 10:38:14 AM PDT by dighton
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Thanks and bttt
52 posted on 06/22/2002 10:39:45 AM PDT by lodwick
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Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether.

Does that include voting???

58 posted on 06/22/2002 10:43:48 AM PDT by al_possum39
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I have seen the light. No amount of leftism is wrong, so long as it comes from Bush.
63 posted on 06/22/2002 10:46:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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The President has not shown firmness nor resolve. One example, would be the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who have been streaming into the U.S.A. each quarter of the year of the Bush [still running 75% of the Clinton] Administration. (That figure of 75% was recently uttered by a top Bush official.)

Furthermore, a reason that things are "in the balance," is because instead of George Bush showing firmness and resolve by pointing out before the public eye, that conservatives --- his contemporaries --- are not "mean" ... he bugged out (cite: beginning of his 2000 campaign in CA), stepping out of the line of fire directed at us all, the fellow conservatives and Republicans about whom Bush apologists are always reminding us that we ought not be so publicly critical with one another.

He could have properly demonstrated with illustration and example, such as Reagan did.

During the 1980 Presidential Debates, Reagan would tell Carter, "Well ... there you go again ... " followed by the details on how Reagan understood the problem, and that Reagan's solution being different than Carter's did not mean that Reagan neither acknowledged nor understood the problem.

(It is a habit of "the Left," that it will tell the public eye, when a conservative or Republican disapproves of a feature of a bill, than that conservative or Republican is against the title of the bill, that is, against the idea of kids having lunch at school, or school rooms having roofs, etc. When in fact, the conservative or Republican recognizes that the matter of lunch for kids at school and fixing leaky roofs is within the authority of the sovereign states and not the federal government --- the message being from Reagan, that one must be firm with the resolve to defend our liberty from federal intrusion, such as in this example.)

A lesson which President Bush would do well to gather up.

Returning to the matter of the borders.

The borders of the United States are a militarized zone, which is the case for all nations who are about the business of protecting lives and personal property.

We do not live nor do we own property because we have a right to these, granted us by the federal government. Our rights such as these, are examples of the multitude which are not enumerated anywhere in the U.S. Constitution; other than being the natural rights of man, these rights, as most, save the Bill of Rights (the first Ten Amendments), are undeniably ours and beyond the reach of the federal government --- see the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. The Principle of Enumeration is whereby the Constitution limits the federal government to only what is on a list.

We, the people, are not so limited in our rights. In addition, the Bill of Rights --- which is indeed a modest listing --- was included for one overall purpose in form: To protect individuals and the states from the federal government; affirming the most sensitive, or threatened rights which were traditionally challenged by the government class which historically does not like us having such rights as well as feels threatened by our having such rights.

Etc.; the stuff which George Bush has not had the resolve to defend --- our Liberty's foundations.

What has changed since Reagan was President, is the body of the people who have not benefitted from conservatives and Republicans' standing up the errors prolific in the liberal media, which produces histrionics that are lost in extra-Constitutional space, misleading people into thinking in virtual, instead of freedom's, realities.

Witness the Al-Qaeda-Jugen, born and raised in front of TV's "boob tube;" becoming boobs for nationalizing socialistic fascism that operates shamelessly and fraudulently in the name of Islam.

Where the liberal media and the whole flotsam of leftist propaganda mislead our people, is something up with which we should not put, but especially our President Bush.

He may have some personal integrity on some issues, but he compromises your's and my freedoms, giving away, negotiating away ... what is not his, nor has the authority to do so.

And for the record, though I am cautioned to not spell things out, here, I can cite chapter and verse on how much the President has the capacity to know, but has failed to act, as well as how much authority he has to act, but has failed to do so.

He has not yet discovered the resolve, nor will he yet be firm about enforcing the laws which would severely diminish the flow of illegal aliens.

Some of whom, are our enemies, about which we are reminded by the news, every week; but there seems to be a death wish, a fascination with seeing it all again.

Sometimes, resolve just plain has to be pounded into you.

Reagan's generation understood/understands the energy which is required to be brutally frank with enemies.

Bush's has not yet got a handle on it; mostly because he has not yet resolved to lead the Executive Branch, though he be the person in charge, the head of the branch, the chief executive.

A serious man would not entertain the wastefullness of our federal government's obsession with social engineering(s) and other purposes of government thought up by federally-funded thought-niks in think tanks, at our [formerly] states' universities, and among the multitude of political movements, coalitions, and other organizations on the goverment dole, thanks to the endless "riders" / amendments to bills about feeding kids lunch.

While we "save the children," we "slave away" to pay for the funding to this or that said ["forward"] "movement" which "earns" income by publishing about and dissemination information on the whatever which, in turn, the Congress included in the bill.

That kind of spending amounts to billions in the pockets of People for the American Way, The Southern Poverty Law Center, the National Education Association, and others of the lesser performing arts.

So that we can be sure that Jack and John went up the hill together; and then further up the old dirt road; and other such social "pleasantries" or "realities."

While serious defenders of our Liberty lay down in the mud of a foreign land, never to return.

Bush may be better than the Democrat Presidential candidate, but that is only a portion of the requirements for defending our Liberty.

Without our Liberty, we do not have America.

Bush and others may be satisfied with less.

I remain resolved.

And that is an understatement.

64 posted on 06/22/2002 10:47:04 AM PDT by First_Salute
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Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy.

The writer's analysis is hopelessly flawed, when he writes a sentence like that. The vast majority of Americans do not have a clear political philosophy. True they have some generalized points on which they more or less agree. True at any given moment, the minority who pay much attention to political matters, will describe themselves one way or another--based upon the way the issues have been presented to them, most recently--but that is about it. The essence of leadership is to determine how those issues are presented to them; hence to determine how they line up.

Leadership does not accept the existing line up, and then react to it by offering to compromise with those on the other side of that lineup. That is mind-boggling simplistic, and an obvious error. I believe that President Bush has some leadership abilities. But he has not been demonstrating them on the Domestic front. Rather he is embracing idea after idea that undermines what he will be able to do in the future. He needs a wakeup call for his own sake, not an effort to instill a false confidence, that could set us all back, while it destroys him.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

72 posted on 06/22/2002 10:54:38 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Thank you for posting this piece. Not everyone wants the President to break into a goose step.
79 posted on 06/22/2002 11:00:34 AM PDT by ned
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