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Breaking: John Ashcroft says U.S. disrupted plans to attack U.S. with "dirty" radiation bomb.

Posted on 06/10/2002 7:30:38 AM PDT by Dales

Breaking now. Details shortly


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ashcroft; dirtybombplot; padilla
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To: krodriguesdc
I guess time will tell. Sounds like they've got the goods on him.
461 posted on 06/10/2002 10:20:53 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Grampa Dave
Kinda lets you know what the far left wants to have happen here, doesn't it?
462 posted on 06/10/2002 10:21:46 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Grampa Dave; homeschool mama
Reading the two posts from you two on advanced math, has made me even more positive about the discussions we had re possible home schooling for our grandkids if and when the time comes.

Get 'em started early on the math-phys, Gramps... That's all I got to say... That's where the jobs are. Too many kids these days study worthless crap and can't get meaningful jobs and are a waste of good skin IMO. I guess I have a superiority complex when it comes to academic pursuits but that's the way I see it-- I'll take an engineer, even a bio student, over a soc or psych punk anyday... And the way I hear it, ed studies are mostly dogwaste... The hard sciences remain relatively unscathed by the massive influx of intellectual sewage that's deluged the academic industry in the past 40 years, in particular... Though you do have the harpies p!ssing and moaning now and then about underrepresentation of women/minorities/transvestites/whathaveyou...

Good luck to ya. I admire folks who can take it on, like my ma... Can't see myself ever doing it but I'll stick up for the homeschoolers any day...

463 posted on 06/10/2002 10:21:50 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: hellinahandcart
Tancredo" sounds kinda Hispanic too, yes?

Good point. Maybe we should return him.

464 posted on 06/10/2002 10:22:45 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: section9
And they differ from some of those posting on here that they don't buy this exactly how?
465 posted on 06/10/2002 10:23:06 AM PDT by Dales
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To: davidosborne
Sen Leahy to do the right thing

ROTFLMAO! Like he'd know the "right thing" if it bit him on the nose.

466 posted on 06/10/2002 10:24:01 AM PDT by Valin
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To: wardaddy
I have a feeling that we haven't seen nothing yet.

Can you imagine everyone in the neighborhood hating your guts and wanting to kill you, yet all the doors and windows are left wide open?

467 posted on 06/10/2002 10:25:17 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: wardaddy;Squantos
"Mark my words....we are soft as melted ice cream on a 4th of July picnic bench. We will get hit again. I look forward to the Squantos brigade taking action. We cannot afford all this willy nilly sweet stuff. The Trojan Horse emptied it's belly here long ago."

Count me as a 'non-dues paying' member of the Squantos Brigade.

468 posted on 06/10/2002 10:27:10 AM PDT by blam
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To: Sabertooth
More like we dodged the patsy set up for cover of the real operation.

I fully expect the ACLU to have him taken from military custody and tried in the criminal courts. Thus reducing his punishment to no more than deportation probably.

When you prosecute a phony war the citizenry doesn't act like there's a war. A military combatant, known to have conspired to kill Americans is a military matter.

But that's to much common sense for America. We would rather subject ourselves to mass murder than do what is necessary. Witness your figures on the number of Islamist scum entering this nation every day.

There is a chance we will wake up after more 9/11 type attacks but never in history has a nation had it's head so firmly and deeply planted in the sand.

Our present behaviour is worse than suicidal. We're making ancient Rome look good.

469 posted on 06/10/2002 10:28:20 AM PDT by mercy
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To: lasereye
Probably true. I don't know that they're likely to be strong Bush supporters though. More likely Buchananites.

Oh, that's probably true.

470 posted on 06/10/2002 10:29:43 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Sabertooth
Bin Laden Has ‘Tentacles’ In Bangladesh

Publication: Town Hall

'Bangladeshi Taliban'

It's generally accepted that the return to power of Prime Minister Zia has boosted Islamists in Bangladesh. Two of her junior coalition partners, Jamaat-i-Islami and the Islam Unity Council, are viewed as having pro-Taliban sympathies. Two Jamaat lawmakers are in the new cabinet.

Under Zia's former tenure - which ended in 1996 - Bangladesh "encouraged and allowed a large number of volunteers" to fight in Islamic struggles in Afghanistan and Kashmir, according to India's Institute for Conflict Management (ICM), which researches terrorism.

"A large number of these extremists are now present in Bangladesh and are spreading the Islamic fundamentalist movement in Bangladesh, which has extensive connections with ... al-Qaeda."

The ICM names Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islam as one group in Bangladesh allied to bin Laden, and says its members style themselves as the "Bangladeshi Taliban."

It says the organization, which boasts an estimated 15,000 activists, was established with the help of bin Laden in 1992. It runs at least six camps in the hilly Chattagong area, where cadres are trained in weapons use.

"Several hundred recruits have also been trained in various training camps of Afghanistan."

Members in 1999 were accused of attempting to kill a renowned poet, Shamsur Rahman, as part of a plot to kill at least 28 prominent Bangladeshi intellectuals.

Perhaps surprisingly, Bangladesh has not featured in the State Department's last six annual reports on global terrorism for 2000.

During the brief visit, Clinton canceled a planned trip to a village named Joypura, 60 miles from Dhaka, for "security reasons." A White House statement issued in New Delhi cited the risks of flying over dense, unguarded forests and rice paddies, but reports quoting U.S. officials said a specific threat had come from bin Laden or terrorists linked to him.

471 posted on 06/10/2002 10:30:02 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: section9
Right now, Rush is on a roll DEFENDING a lot of what Bush wants to do today. Say what you will about the guy, but he's doing good today. That is going to cancel out some of my irritation for a while, IMHO.

Right now, he's saying a LOT of what I'm thinking on this issue. It's all right on the shoulders of the Church Committee and the attacks that the Dems have mad on our intelligence community for YEARS. That is the major cause of 9/11.

472 posted on 06/10/2002 10:30:28 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: mercy
We're making ancient Rome look good.
Bump for the Romans.
473 posted on 06/10/2002 10:32:07 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: maxwell
Ah. Well I've taught it more recently, and it comes back to you like bad cheese.
474 posted on 06/10/2002 10:32:17 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Dales
maybe this is the bomb arafat was talking about that would impact the stabiliy of the whole world.
475 posted on 06/10/2002 10:33:35 AM PDT by CaptainAwesome
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To: Miss Marple
?Therefore, I think it quite logical to assume that they are actively working, and have for some time, in recruiting non-ethnic types to do their work. It would be foolish of the government not to take this into account.

Who suggested anything so foolish?

The fact that some of the Islamic 5th Column doesn't fit a profile doesn't negate the fact that many do. Profiling is but one tool, one weapon against terrorists.

When the President shut down certain terrorist related bank accounts, did that take away all of their money? Was it a perfect solution? No, but it was a victory for us and a loss for them.

You didn't object to that measure, did you?

My objection is to why people are complaining about random searches; they are necessary if we are looking at all possibilities.

People don't like random searches in the absence of profiling because such searches are politically correct "Islam means peace" window dressing which ignore the obvious.

Sabertooth, you cannot seriously think we should open religious descrimination as an alternative. Not only is that unconstitutional, but it goes against the very foundations of our nation. In addition, that won't work either, because those who are terrorists will simply LIE.

Do you really believe that the Establishment Clause of the 1st negates the obligation of the Federal Government to provide for the common defense? Islam harbors vast reservoirs of hate-filled adherents who want us destroyed, with many sympathizers in this country. Does the 1st Ammendment mean we ignore that?

So what if some of the terrorists will lie? The tendency of roaches to scatter when the lights are on doesn't mean you can't set traps where they tend to frequent.

The fact that criminals will react to the strategies of law enforcement shouldn't preclude actions that will result in the apprehension of a number of them.




476 posted on 06/10/2002 10:33:39 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Bahbah
In a related story: An Eager United States Waits Breathlessly for Cynthia McKinney's Take on The Developing Story.
477 posted on 06/10/2002 10:34:09 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: kcvl
Good catch. The Jamaat groups have global reach, and all are evil.



478 posted on 06/10/2002 10:36:49 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Redbob
"Elderly white females are especially dangerous". Some time ago,El Al thwarted a bombing plot,involving a 30ish white female. An Arab terrorist had befriended an Irish(sigh) gal and gave her a special package to carry on the plane with her.The El Al screeners discovered the bomb during the pre flight screening and prevented a mid air explosion. The girlfriend was also pregnant with this bum's baby.The Shoebomber was half black, the Abu Sayef are Filipino,Jonny Lindh was white,today's scum may be Hispanic-it may be just a matter of time, before an old lady is one of them!
479 posted on 06/10/2002 10:36:50 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Miss Marple
"In addition, that won't work either, because those who are terrorists will simply LIE."

Exactly the argument I've been making for months. The answer I most often recieve is that no Muslim would ever pretend to be a Christian or even an agnostic, because it's against their religion....to which I answer : "You wanna bet your life on that?"

480 posted on 06/10/2002 10:37:38 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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