Radical Islamists Honored at University of Wisconsin Christians Dismissed from Staff

Holy Bible, Koran | 6/8/02 | M. Curtiss MD

[Love of Country]

On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Fry MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture at the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam" after two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers calls for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan state no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask an innocuous question.

[Michael2001]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It is amazing what goes on in our institutes for "higher learning". Good luck with the job hunt.

[Eva]

Send a copy of your story to Best of the Web, Opinion Journal of the Wall Street Journal. Maybe even write an op-ed piece for them, or contact one of the writers for the editorial section.

[Humidston]

Today, he is gathering souls for his unholy army.

AMEN bump!

[FITZ]

The American people are played like puppets.

You're right ---we are. We've become so politically correct, we're happy to all take off our shoes at the airports and believe we're safe now by doing it. I think there will be more attacks and many more Americans killed before we really realize what is happening and that our government isn't protecting us. I think (hope) at some point our original American spirit takes over again and we will fight for our freedoms and get back the Constitution but sometimes I wonder.

[FITZ]

Yet the muslim student sees them as normative.

You can see why the Muslims would look down on Christians and Americans since they tend to only know a certain type they meet in our liberal universities ----if they had bothered to get out into the American heartland or attend NRA meetings or real Christian churches, they may not have been as inclined to declare war on us or believe we were ready to be placed under their Koran. They saw us as a bunch of very weak minded, mostly homosexual, materialistic etc because they attended our universities ---- and we're stupid enough to believe foreigners studying here will learn about the Constitution and our freedoms and learn to appreciate our way of life. We should end foreigners coming to our universities because they've become as un-American and as anti-American as you can get.

[floriduh voter]

Wrongful termination suits are FEDERAL CASES if they involve discrimination. In the current climate before a Federal Jury, there's a chance to win a case like that. But, does the wronged party have enough money to pay up front fees to a trial attorney? That's the only drawback.

I worked on Federal Cases but was on the defense side. We had a thousand exhibits.

The first step is to contact the EEOC. Maybe there's no need for an attorney for the beginning of the WT claim. Please tell whomever may need the information that is how you get started. I am late getting to this thread.

[oprahstheantichrist]

Don't forget Hugh Hewitt!

http://hughhewitt.com

[Bobby777]

Radical Islam is an insane death cult, and "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/

"The Women" [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.

The Dinner Table - [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

The Cattle - [6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.

The Immunity - Denial of Deity of Christ and His Messiahship - [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (MAY ALLAH DESTROY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS)

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

The Congregation [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful. (PLEASE COMMIT SUICIDE)

The Cow - [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

The Women - [4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD)

The Dinner Table - The Dinner Table [5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).

"Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility." - Koran 9: 29

".... I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS], and smite all their finger tips of them [CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS]." - Koran 8: 12

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." - Koran 9: 73

"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom...." - Koran 5: 33-34

" Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." - Koran 9: 29

"....the Christians call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth." - Koran 9: 30

"....the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." - Koran 98: 1-8

"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" - Koran 22: 19-22, 23

"And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. " - Koran 31-37

[oprahstheantichrist]

" My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture at the previous week."

Did UW state that specifically in the letter???

[oprahstheantichrist]

That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?

Bless you for posting this. I heard the "Islam is a religion of peace" line from a conservative but naive Jewish friend a few months ago, and I've been looking for just those verses ever since.

[Bobby777]

I post it a lot so people can copy it and spread it around ... it needs to be read ... it needs to be seen ... this is what drives them to do what they do ... in Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Morocco, Libya, Palestine, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Ethiopia, Burkina Faso, Togo, Egypt, etc. etc. etc. ...

[stands2reason]

Wow! Very impressive Slam Bush gymnastics!

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Islam should not be considered a valid religion in AMERICA!

[norton]

"I know I make an awful lot of careless mistakes while posting but this guy really sucks. "

Pretty much covers it.
Sadly, neither doctors nor engineers, and certainly not mere grunts such as myself (BA, MSA, doing another) are expected to show much of a grip on the language we all prefer over any other....

I'd be more interested in the subject and the allegation made in his posting than in the precision of his grammar or structure.

[Steve Eisenberg]

Wrongful termination suits are FEDERAL CASES if they involve discrimination.

The university will probably say that Dr. Curtiss was a regular employee on a contract which could be renewed, or not, at will. However, the essence of what Dr. Curtiss is saying, as far as I am concerned, is that he was acting, in significant part, as a faculty member, and that academic administrators object to political views he expressed in an academic setting. In other words, it was a violation of academic freedom. There is no law that the University of Wisconsin has to grant academic freedom. However, I'm thinking that academic freedom is a value they profess, and that if they are humiliated by having it shown that they violated academic freedom principles, they will back down. There was a very similar case at John Hopkins shortly after September 11, when a professor made politically incorrect statements at a open university discussion of the attack on America. The Hopkins professor was demoted, but then, after negative publicity, the university backed down. One can hope for it to happen here also.

[swarthyguy]

the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell.

Puts to bed that big lie they always keep saying about peoples of the book being similar to islam and that whole canard they maintain about 'revealed religions' as opposed to pagan to entice naive, gullible types to drop their guard.

Have you sent this to Grover Norquist? I believe he needs a primer.

[FR_addict]

I think O'Reilly would be a very good idea. If he doesn't pick it up, try one of the other Fox shows.

[dheretic]

I'm no big fan of organized religion. Get that $hit out of the classroom. Islam has no business being taught in a medical school. The state government should be able to arrest and prosecute the people in the state university who set up the lecture. The state should not allow any lectures promoting any religion or anti-religion. Yes, I believe it should be a crime, just a misdemeanor, but a crime nonetheless for state employees to cross that line.

[dheretic]

We should end foreigners coming to our universities because they've become as un-American and as anti-American as you can get.

Why should a foreigner be like us? They're coming here for an education, not citizenship. Do you think our students that study abroad should have to learn to act like a native of that country? Most of the foreigners I know on campus like America. Most of their comments after 9-11 were more sympathetic to our country than Jerry Falwell and company's. What is with you? Someone tells you that someone is anti-American and you automatically accept it? You think everyone that goes to college is anti-American and that all foreigners in our colleges hate America because a few a$$holes burn flags and call for a Jihad?

[arthurus]

Doesn't seem likely. The old timers who attended when those places were actually schools keep giving the money and more and more the graduates go into government and give the institutions of fraudulent learning your money and mine.