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So far, the mainstream media are telling basketball fans, "Are you gonna believe us or your lyin' eyes?"
1 posted on 06/04/2002 7:37:54 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
How man close games can these teams play ? I don't detect either side slowing the game down. Must be VERY evenly matched.
2 posted on 06/04/2002 7:39:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Everyone knows the NBA/Commish Stern only "fixes" the draft lottery! ;o)
3 posted on 06/04/2002 7:41:43 AM PDT by wheezer
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I'm not much for player names, but in the last minutes of the Kings/Lakers game, some guy for the Kings threw up a 3-point complete and total air-ball that had me thinking fix right then and there.
4 posted on 06/04/2002 7:41:56 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: mrustow
The NBA has been fixed for a long time, about as long as wrestling has been.

It's junk and I haven't followed it in years.

6 posted on 06/04/2002 7:43:28 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: mrustow
Here's the article :

NBA Voodoo: David Stern Fixes the Playoffs

By Nicholas Stix

A Different Drummer [June 5, 2002]

Well, the Lakers got their threepeat. Let's hear it for Shaq and Kobe and the gang. Coach Phil Jackson was again proven a genius. What's that you say — The finals have yet to begin? A mere formality.

NBA Commissioner David Stern wanted the Lakers to defend their two consecutive NBA championships in the finals. And whatever David wants, David gets.

Friday night, in game six of the Western Conference finals against the Sacramento Kings, in the most corruptly officiated pro basketball game I have ever seen, the referees charged the Kings with a foul, every time one of their players blinked at a Laker, but "let the Lakers play [their] game" — a euphemism for not calling fouls on the Lakers — as an obsequious Jim Gray of NBC volunteered to Shaquille O'Neal after the game. Gray helpfully left unsaid that the Lakers had gotten to shoot an unheard-of 27 free throws — making 21 — in the fourth quarter alone, which would have made clear that the referees weren't letting everyone "play their game."

The Lakers were down three games to two; a loss would have eliminated them, and sent the Kings on to their first championship finals since 1951, when as the Rochester Royals, they beat the New York Knickerbockers for their sole NBA championship. But the fix was in; the refs were not going to permit the Lakers to lose. They won, 106-102.

When O'Neal told interviewers that teams that won two or three championships had to do it different ways, I didn't know that this was what he meant.

Any doubt that the outcome was rigged was erased when, with one minute left in the game, Kobe Bryant tried to get free of tenacious Kings guard Mike Bibby, in order to catch an inbounds pass. Kobe got free, alright. He smashed Bibby in the nose with a forearm.

What did the refs do? Naturally, they called a foul ... on Bibby! Bryant drained two free throws, to bury the Kings. Adding insult to injury, the Kings had to burn their last timeout, in order to give the indispensable Bibby a chance to reflect on what day it was, and where he was playing.

A would-be mugger named Andre Bernard once broke my nose with less violence than Kobe Bryant applied to Mike Bibby. But I prevailed against Andre, thanks to my friend, Mr. Mace. Unfortunately, Bibby was playing unarmed.

Crooked pool is nothing new to the NBA. In 1996, David Stern ignored blatant tampering on the part of the Lakers, when they stole Shaquille O'Neal away from the Orlando Magic, so I guess something like Friday's fiasco was bound to happen.

At the highest levels, organized sports can be the closest thing to a vision of perfection in this world. (I'm obviously not talking about circus sideshows like the WWF, and some of professional boxing and the Olympics.) Unlike in the "real" world, where incompetents and crooks routinely prevail, and keep good men sidelined, the best sports can show us objective excellence and justice. When "Joe Cool" Montana was leading the San Francisco 49ers or John Elway was leading the Denver Broncos on come-from-behind drives in the last two minutes of playoff games or Super Bowls, I don't recall anything looking fixed. Likewise, when Michael Jordan drained his many "buzzer beaters" to win playoff games, in leading the Chicago Bulls to six championships, I don't recall him getting Laker-style help from the referees, or the basket being expanded for him.

Prior to last Friday, I had taken for granted that if the Lakers met my beloved Nets in the finals, Shaq, Kobe, & Co. would bury the Nets, like so many mob hit victims, in the Jersey swampland. But now, I'm angry, and I'm not taking anything for granted. Although I'm not a prayerful man, I'm going to take a page out of the book of a Guyanese woman I used to know, who said of an enemy, "I gonna say a prayer, and bind her spirit." That is good "for I," too. I gonna say a prayer, and bind the Lakers' spirits! You hear that, Shaq, Kobe, Phil? You sure you're invincible against my voodoo?

8 posted on 06/04/2002 7:45:41 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: mrustow
Bullbleep!
10 posted on 06/04/2002 7:47:18 AM PDT by freebilly
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Perception more harmful to NBA than reality

By David Aldridge
Special to ESPN.com

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The NBA has a problem.

The problem is not that there is a conspiracy to put the Lakers (or, in their day, the Bulls) in the Finals, or that playoff games are fixed.

The problem is that so many otherwise rational people think there is a conspiracy to put the Lakers (or, in their day, the Bulls) in the Finals, and that playoff games are fixed. The problem is that the very teams who compete now state openly that they expect to get screwed in important games.

For 15 years, I've listened to crackpots tell me how the league is no different than pro wrestling, that I should be ashamed to cover a sport where the results have been determined in advance by a cabal of power-mad men (the list is never the same but frequently includes David Stern, NBC Sports President Dick Ebersol, the heads of various Fortune 500 companies, and once -- only once -- Suzanne Somers). I laugh to myself, for there is nothing I can do to help these people.

And then comes a game like Friday's Game 6 of the Western Conference finals. There is nothing I can say that will explain 27 free throws for the Lakers in the fourth quarter -- an amount staggering in its volume and impact on the game. It gave me pause. How can you explain it? How can you explain a game where Scot Pollard fouls out when he's two feet from Shaquille O'Neal, or that Doug Christie is called for a ridiculous touch foul just as Chris Webber spikes Kobe Bryant's drive to the hoop, or that Mike Bibby is called for a foul deep in the fourth quarter after Bryant pops him in the nose with an elbow? Regardless of whether the fouls were called correctly or not, they put a black mark on what has been as compelling, dramatic and well-played of a series as I can recall in recent years.

What gives one pause, though, is not that these fouls were called against the Kings in this one game. The pause comes because these fouls were called against the Kings in Los Angeles two days after O'Neal fouled out of Game 5 in Sacramento -- the same game in which Bryant was saddled with five fouls. How can consecutive games be called so diametrically opposite -- with such dramatic differences in the impact on the respective teams?

This is my problem: the 180-degree turns from day to day in the playoffs. One day, Shaq is allowed to drop his shoulder and knock any defender senseless. The very next day, if Shaq looks at Bibby, he gets the foul. How can it be the exact opposite of what it was the game before? And I think people pick up on that, and think something is not right.

I am not speaking here of your garden variety fan who roots for his or her team passionately, sometimes nonsensically, and who will thus create boogeymen to explain his team's losses where none exist. Nor of the poor souls who have to assign the state of their own wretched lives to some unseen, omniscient force. Nor of the professional cranks and nutjobs who earn a living by finding gunmen in grassy knolls -- no, they fired from the bridge above! No, wait -- it was from the sewer below! But of ordinary folks who pay their taxes and hold themselves responsible for their lot in life.

After Game 6, I went out to dinner in L.A. with a couple of sportswriters and three or four other folks who aren't in the business. Each one of us at the table had a college degree. None of us had a dog in this Lakers-Kings fight. But us Sports Guys wanted to see if we were overreacting. So we asked the woman with the business degree who has season tickets to an NBA team (not the Lakers, not the Kings) what her immediate reaction was after watching Friday.

"They stole the game from the Kings," she said, matter of factly.

The next morning, I call for a bellman for help with the bags. The door is open five seconds when he says, and I'm paraphrasing here because I don't generally quote bellmen, "What was up with that game last night? I mean, I'm a Laker fan, so I appreciate the calls. But I don't want to win that way. It was like Chris Webber was saying, 'I can't win, so why should I play hard?' "

Which, if the bellman had been in the Kings' locker room on Friday, was exactly the demeanor he would have seen from Webber. His lip was literally quivering, he was so angry. He spoke in guarded tones about how "we're still the Sacramento Kings" and how he had been told it would be impossible to beat the Lakers Friday. "I was warned," he muttered. Twenty feet away, Vlade Divac was asked if he played O'Neal any differently than he had the first five games. "Of course," Divac smirked. "I thought 'Tonight, I will play him very aggressive and foul him every time.' "

You can dismiss this as sour grapes from the losing team. But this has gone on for so long in so many losing locker rooms over the years, it is now part of the postgame procedure: Winning coach compliments spirit of losing team, losing coach laments horrible officiating. It is so matter-of-fact as to be a cliche: We got the calls tonight; they'll get the calls tomorrow. Only in the NBA does a coach who's won eight championships whine more than a stuck engine valve about refs. You may hear Lou Pinella rant about the strike zone on Monday, but he's not still at it on Thursday. Officials blow calls every Sunday in the NFL, but that league makes sure you know about it on Tuesday, while the NBA still muzzles all discussion about its officials' performance.

So why do NBA coaches do it?

Because it appears to work.

When Phil Jackson gripes about the Knicks and Pistons not allowing flow and freedom in a game -- when he says that Dennis Rodman is being persecuted; when he says that Shaq isn't being allowed the same freedoms a man six inches shorter receives -- he's not talking to the guy or gal that asked him the question in the news conference, and he's not talking to you, dear reader. He's talking to the three people in the striped shirts who will call the next game.

Please understand: I think NBA refs have the hardest job officiating of all the major sports, and that includes the guys who do it on skates. Basketball -- and pro basketball in particular -- has more subjective calls in a half than you'll see in a season of football. Block or charge? Did he jump straight up, or come over the back? Is he hooking, or using leverage? And I think because the game is so subjective to call, no one knows what to expect night in and out.

The NBA also suffers because of the nature of the game. One dominant player out of five will necessarily have more impact than one out of nine in baseball (including the pitcher, who only plays once every four or five days) or one of 11 in football. So someone like Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson or Larry Bird or Isiah Thomas -- or Shaq -- tends to win more often than in baseball or football. This tends to lead to the same teams winning championships -- which creates the impression that this is desired by the Commish, the networks and advertisers looking for common themes, one-name superstars and storylines to sell to the public.

(Of course, the public is as hypocritical on this as it is on so many things. The very people who say they're sick of seeing the same faces win year after year in the NBA are the same folks who stayed away in droves, and didn't watch, during the league's most democratic era -- the 1970s, when talented if nondescript teams like Golden State, Washington, Portland and Seattle won championships.)

I acknowledge I am at a loss about what to do. The Commish acknowledged last week that the game has gotten, in some ways, too quick for the refs, which is why he's now behind some form of instant replay. The Competition Committee will receive a proposal from the league for replay at its meeting this week. And here, the NBA can learn from the NFL, which is always perceived as tinkering with its game to improve officiating and make the game more pleasant for fans.

Of course, the NFL often does no such thing. But people think it does.

Perception is reality.

David Aldridge is an NBA reporter for ESPN.

11 posted on 06/04/2002 7:47:25 AM PDT by RightFighter
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Ok, but did Stern tell the Kings to go 1 for 20 on 3 points or miss 16 of 27 free throws in game 7?
14 posted on 06/04/2002 7:49:37 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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Good lord whart a bunch of freaks. The NBA has had two rule books since the mid-80s. There's an undocumented but very important penalty in the game: inhibiting the hilight reel of a player with a bigger salary. Been there forever. It's one of the reasons the NBA is a joke. No need for a conspiracy, the Lakers have more stars than the Kings and will get the more favorable calls. All the Vegas-line people know that you add 5 points for every star based just on bogus fouls.

The fact that this series went down to 7, and actually went into overtime in game 7, shows that the empire of the Lakers is ending. Let them have their victory lap. Within the structure of the NBA's rules they've won fair and square.

16 posted on 06/04/2002 7:51:01 AM PDT by discostu
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As a Sacramento Kings fan I concur completely.

We had the better team, there was no doubt to any objective viewer that this was the case.

But being in a "small market" I knew we were doomed from the start. We will never be able to give up the huge TV ratings that an LA series would generate.

More than anything else, I feel like we were robbed of a real chance to show what we have.

I guess the hardest part was trying to explain to my kids the difference in enforcing the rules. That there are fouls called for the Kings and a different set of standards for the Lakers.

A bad position for a Father to be in I think...

Cheers,

knews hound

21 posted on 06/04/2002 7:59:08 AM PDT by knews_hound
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I don't think the NBA is fixed--I think it is broken and needs fixing.

Or if it isn't broken, it needs to be.

The quality of the officiating is pathetic. It was only the inconsistancy of calling in game 6 that led to the Lakers even making it to game 7.

Those refs may not be "on the take", but they are not professional calibre and regardless of the talent of the Lakers, had the refs not called as they called, the Lakers would be the ones crying in their suds.

27 posted on 06/04/2002 8:04:01 AM PDT by twntaipan
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How "bad" was the officiating that "cost" the Kings the series?

The Lakers had 177 fouls called on them during the series while the Kings had 174 called on them. Oh, wait a minute, that CAN'T be true, can it?

Yep, blame the series loss on terrible foul SHOOTING by the Kings, as well as their choke-down-the-stretch field-goal shooting.

40 posted on 06/04/2002 8:23:02 AM PDT by Henchster
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If the NBA were to "fix" the playoffs, why not make it a Celts vs. Lakers final?
42 posted on 06/04/2002 8:27:04 AM PDT by TankerKC
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Likewise, when Michael Jordan drained his many "buzzer beaters" to win playoff games, in leading the Chicago Bulls to six championships, I don't recall him getting Laker-style help from the referees, or the basket being expanded for him.

You must've missed the push on Russell that sent him flying.

61 posted on 06/04/2002 8:42:06 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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All the Kings had to do was make free throws to win the games, Look at he box score. If the kings had made the same percentage of free throws as the Lakers, the Kings would of won game 6 and game 7.
82 posted on 06/04/2002 8:58:33 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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NBA Commissioner David Stern, Commissioner of Major League Baseball Bud Selig, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue , and Major League Soccer Commissioner Don Garber are all VOODOOISTS?!
The things you learn!
83 posted on 06/04/2002 8:58:37 AM PDT by luvzhottea
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Of course, the public is as hypocritical on this as it is on so many things. The very people who say they're sick of seeing the same faces win year after year in the NBA are the same folks who stayed away in droves, and didn't watch, during the league's most democratic era -- the 1970s, when talented if nondescript teams like Golden State, Washington, Portland and Seattle won championships.

An imbecilic statement. There is nothing hypocritical about a Suns fan wanting the Suns to be in the finals, but not watching it if they are not. The author is nearly saying, "hey, they tried it your way and didn't make money, so this is what you get". The conspiracy theorists (of which I am a tangential supporter) argue that, somehow, things always seem to work out for the clubs that can generate the biggest dollars (through large fan bases). The Ewing draft, the Jordan non-calls (there were tons), Magic v. Larry (an altogether remarkable cross-marketing bonanza with the racial undertones): these all stoke the fires of the conspiracy crowd.

The main problem with the NBA is the same one figure skating has: subjective rules. Refs make mistakes, and if you provide them lots of opportunities, they'll make lots of mistakes.

96 posted on 06/04/2002 9:05:12 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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How exactly did the NBA 'fix' the ending of game 4? Remember, if Horry doesn't catch that last second slapped ball from a SACRAMENTO player AND then reflexively drain a clutch buzzerbeater, the Lakers would have been down 3-1, (with 2 games remaining in Sacramento) and thus effectively eliminated.

NBC simply lucked out on that shot, there is NO WAY to script that.

121 posted on 06/04/2002 9:25:10 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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I stopped watching the NBA because there's not a referee in the league with anything between his legs or between his ears.
126 posted on 06/04/2002 9:28:33 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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Bump for all the childish name-calling to be found in this thread. Great entertainment, to be sure.

Mrs Kus

146 posted on 06/04/2002 9:47:21 AM PDT by cgk
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