Why Didn't the FBI Fully Investigate Moussaoui? Agents joked that HQ infiltrated by agents of Osama

TIME.com ^ | Thursday, May. 23, 2002 | MICHAEL WEISSKOPF

[Spar]

I searched the database and did not see this posted here. My apologies if this story was already posted.

[xm177e2]

Already posted here.

(i love doing this)

[jrewingjr]

Something sure needs to change. Is this related? Muslim FBI Agent Refuses to Wear a Wire, "Muslims don't tape Muslims", he says.

[ValerieUSA]

hee hee - you are so good at that.

On a serious note --- my first thought is that Hanssen is a just one traitor in a crowd of traitors working as FBI agents.

[GrandMoM]

....TIME TO REMOVE THESE POLITICAL CORRECT WIMPS OUT OF THE FBI, CIA AND INS, ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS WHOSE BUTT TO KISS NEXT TO KEEP THEIR POSITION & THEIR PENSION!

[WFTR]

The letter portrays the FBI as a place where agents are thwarted from doing their job by a "climate of fear." She writes: "Numerous high-ranking FBI officials who have made decisions or have taken actions which, in hindsight, turned out to be mistaken or just turned out badly (i.e. Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.) have seen their careers plummet and end.

This statement is one of the most sickening things that I've seen printed in a long time. Waco and Ruby Ridge were mistakes because both involved an attempt by the federal government to harass people who were minding their own business and who happened to be gun owners. Real Americans have never failed to support the FBI when it seeks to investigate evidence of foreign terrorists planning violent actions in this country. However, neither of the examples mentioned fell into this category. In case this idiot doesn't realize it, there's a big difference between searching a foreigner's computer and shooting a 14-year-old boy in the back or shooting a woman holding a baby. For FBI agents who haven't figured it out, here's a clue. When you use force against our enemies because they are trying to attack Americans, we will support you. When you become the tools and dupes of people like Bill Clinton and Sarah Brady, both of whom want to destroy our nation, we will not support you.

WFTR
Bill

[ladyinred]

Wow, a complete overhaul of the FBI is in order!

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Agents joked that HQ infiltrated by agents of Osama

Yeah, the Clintonistas.

[nathanbedford]

I expect we will find that agent Rowley is a liberal. The first indications will be how she is profiled by the likes of Dan Rather. If she is not treated like Linda Tripp we have a pretty clear preliminary indication that she has a political agenda.

The great turf war for the cure of systemic failure in the intelligence establishment has started. The left wants an independent commission for a reason. At first, I thought they wanted it because it would provide a vehicle to bash Bush but now I think they see it as a vehicle for the overhaul of the FBI and the Department of Justice by extension.

There is no question that the war against terrorism will result in more intrusive Federal law enforcement and intelligence apparatus. It is imperative that the left does shape the new order to its liking.

[TheOtherOne]

If she is not treated like Linda Tripp we have a pretty clear preliminary indication that she has a political agenda.

So her 'agenda' is determined by how others treat her?

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

They were too busy compiling profiles of hypoglycemic hillbillies who own unregistered shotguns in the hills of Idaho?

[nathanbedford]

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Not at all. My point is that her agenda, if any, will be REVEALED by the way the media treats her.

[self_evident]

I expect we will find that agent Rowley is a liberal.

Who cares? She (and they) were one of the few (apparently) agents in the FBI who were realistic in suspecting Arab muslims of being up to no good in the U.S. They didn't give in to PC (religion of peace) and investigated with common sense. I don't care if she's a marxist/liberal/homosexual/atheist/hedonist. She was doing her job, and unless you think Ashcroft's prosecution is a farce, she was right.

[TheOtherOne]

Not at all. My point is that her agenda, if any, will be REVEALED by the way the media treats her.

I disagree. I think her 'agenda' may be revealed. I do not think the way she may or may not be treated in the coming weeks is determinative of what that agenda may be.

[swarthyguy]

What interests caused us to ignore Sunni fundamentalism for all these years?

[nathanbedford]

Look, I never used the word "Determine", you did. I spoke of "early indication" What in the hell is your point, any way?

Lets get to the issue: Her letter is filled with more than just facts about this intelligence failure. Reports indicate that it was chocked full of characterizations of upper level bungling and CYA. I am suspicious that she might have an agenda that is more than meets the eye. She may be a willing tool for a return to a Rino-like Department of Justice. Note her take on Ruby Ridge.

Now, can we move on?

[Spar]

something oily about all this....

[nathanbedford]

I expect we will find that agent Rowley is a liberal. Who cares? She (and they) were one of the few (apparently) agents in the FBI who were realistic in suspecting Arab muslims of being up to no good in the U.S. They didn't give in to PC (religion of peace) and investigated with common sense. I don't care if she's a marxist/liberal/homosexual/atheist/hedonist. She was doing her job, and unless you think Ashcroft's prosecution is a farce, she was right.

I concede that she probably did her job, and brilliantly. But before we deify her and give her credibility which leaks into the policy area of reshaping the FBI the JOD and CIA, lets take a breath and see where she is coming from. Does the name Scott Ritter ring a bell?

[nathanbedford]

Please take a look at this article alleging that Clinton appointees in the DOJ are undermining Bush policies. Just yesterday the Washington Post reported that the "Joint Chiefs" were opposed to a war in Iraq. Note this article provides a possible explanation: These Clontonite think tanks purport to speak for the joint chiefs and are evidently accepted as a "source" to give the imprimator of the Joint Chiefs. But the purpose and effect is to undermine Bush. I am worried tht we will see parallels in the coming wars over the FBI.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/689293/posts

[RJCogburn]

Yeah, the Clintonistas.

The failures and corruption in the FBI are too widespread to just be blamed on the Clintons.

If we just use that "standard" explanation, (sorta like the FBI files excuse) we will never come close to cleaning up the mess.

Regardless of my unbounded enmity for the Clintons, they are not the source of all the Washington corruption and its just too easy to blame it all on them.