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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Yeah, the Clintonistas.

The failures and corruption in the FBI are too widespread to just be blamed on the Clintons.

If we just use that "standard" explanation, (sorta like the FBI files excuse) we will never come close to cleaning up the mess.

Regardless of my unbounded enmity for the Clintons, they are not the source of all the Washington corruption and its just too easy to blame it all on them.

20 posted on 05/25/2002 5:38:11 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
If I can sum up the discussion so far, without quibbling over "discovered" versus "shown to be...":

The FBI is, and has for a long time been, inefficient and only marginally effective. Not JUST Clinton's doing.

Much the same can be said for CIA and every other intelligence agency of the US government.
(We are limited in part by out own better traits - like not wanting to be the bully despite hugely outweighing the opposition.)
(The US has been busily declawing it's intelligence operations for upwards of thirty yeras.)

Clinton era policies and anti-american political correctness were an additional and pivotal hinderance to any successful intelligence gathering. However, those policies only peaked under WJC, they grew out of the sixties' societal madness and they developed under government managers and administrators schooled in that madness.

As of September tenth 2001 "our" police and intelligence focus was shifted away from national security and social stability to be directed inward toward just about any "non-progressive" personality or organization that might be found. Evidence of that were the much reported, perhaps effective/perhaps counter productive, displays of what the government can do to those who dissent; such as Waco and Ruby Ridge.

Question now is, what sort of changes ("reforms") are likely to come out of the events following September tenth 2001 and what kind of a congressional and institutional dog fight will it take to do it?

You may now carry on with the debate.

21 posted on 05/25/2002 7:43:32 AM PDT by norton
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