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Denver Judge Axes the Constitution - Update of Rick Stanley's 2A/Civil Disobedience Trial
The Stanley for U.S. Senate 2002 Colorado Campaign - News Release ^ | May 15, 2002 | Stanley for U.S. Senate 2002 - Colorado

Posted on 05/16/2002 3:05:12 AM PDT by LibertyRocks

Denver Judge Axes the Constitution
Update on Trial: Day 1
News Release - May 15, 2002

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

May 15, 2002

NEWS RELEASE

Stanley for U.S. Senate 2002
Website:
http://www.stanley2002.org
Contact: Rick Stanley, 303.329.0481
Email:
Rick@stanley2002.org

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DENVER JUDGE AXES THE CONSTITUTION...

[Denver - 11:30 pm] Sparks flew today in a Denver Courtroom where Libertarian U.S. Senate hopeful Rick Stanley is on trial for openly carrying a firearm in violation of Denver Municipal Ordinance 38-117.5(b). The arrest was the result of an intentional act of civil disobedience during a rally celebrating the 210th Anniversary of the Bill of Rights on December 15, 2001.

After wading through the usual preliminary proceedings, Defense Attorney Paul Grant moved for a twelve-man jury. This request was denied by Judge Patterson who stated Stanley would get only 6 jurors, citing a Colorado Statute.

Judge Patterson's next move was to order everyone except the defendant and the officers of the court out of the room.

Grant immediately objected stating the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guaranteed Rick's right to a speedy and public trial. "A trial can't be public," Grant stated, "if the public is excluded."

The judge countered that there wasn't enough room for the jury pool of 18 people and the public. After a few more minutes a compromise was reached and everyone except Mr. Stanley, his lawyer, and the court officials left the courtroom.

As observers left the court room they were met by a posse of armed guards from the Sheriff's department who ordered them to move away from the doorway.

After the jury pool came in and were seated, the observers were allowed back into the courtroom.

During the jury selection process supporters of Stanley were shocked to discover that out of a pool of 12 prospective jurors - 5 just happened to be employed by the Plaintiff, The City and County of Denver. One prospective female jury member confirmed that she indeed was a police officer employed by the Denver Police Department.

Grant objected that these jurors should be disqualified for conflict of interest issues, the Judge did not find cause to dismiss these jurors at that time.

During the selection process Defense Attorney Paul Grant posed several questions to this Police Officer.

When asked by Grant if she could really apply the laws as explained by the judge, she replied, "yes".

Then Mr. Grant asked her to confirm if she really was a police officer with the city and county of Denver. She replied, "yes".

Mr. Grant then asked her if, "...when becoming a police officer, she had taken an oath to support the Constitution of Colorado and the Constitution of the United States of America?"

"Yes, I did." the officer replied.

Grant then asked her a hypothetical question; "If the judge were to instruct you that the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution and Article 2, Section 13 of the Constitution of Colorado are applicable to this case, would you be able to follow that instruction?

Pandemonium erupted halfway through Grant's question with the City Prosecutor objecting at the top of his lungs to the form of the question, as the Judge pounded his gavel for attention.

At this time Judge Patterson dismissed the jurors for lunch. After they left the courtroom Judge Patterson began to lecture Mr. Grant.

"I already sent you an order in this case. The order has been mailed to your offices. You are not to mention the Constitution during this proceeding. Do you understand?"

Grant replied that he did not.

Patterson said, "Then I'll explain it again. You are not to reference the Constitution in these proceedings. You will not address it in voir dire, you will not address it in your opening remarks, you will not ask any questions about the Constitution when you summon your witnesses, and you will not talk about the Constitution when you give your closing arguments. Do you understand my instructions?", questioned Judge Patterson.

Grant again replied he did not understand, and the judge proceeded to repeat his previous orders. He also stated that Mr. Grant had already violated these orders during the voir dire process when questioning the police officer.

Grant objected to the judge's statement and replied, "Your honor I did not ask a question about the Constitution I asked a question about jury instructions."

The Judge then asserted, "You did no such thing."

Grant countered, "Yes, I did." He peered at his notes and said, "Here's the question I asked her. If the judge were to instruct you that the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and Article 2, Section 13 of the Constitution of Colorado are applicable to this case, would you be able to follow that instruction?"

In the presence of numerous observers, and despite an audio recording and at least one court reporter the Judge then asserted, "That's not the question you asked."

At that point it was clear Judge Patterson was visibly upset. He began advising counsel that he was on dangerous grounds and threatened him with court sanctions. Patterson then recessed the proceedings for a lunch break.

As Judge Patterson left the courtroom one Stanley supporter, Mr. Joe Johnson stood and addressed those left in the courtroom, "Hear Ye, Hear Ye, The Constitution of the United States of America has just been repealed by a Denver County Court Judge." Two reporters from the Denver daily papers scribbled furiously and then bolted for the doors.

The court reconvened in the afternoon and the jury selection was completed. The jury consists of 6 people, 5 women and 1 man.

The court heard testimony from both sides including testimony from the arresting officers who stated they did not fear any violence from Mr. Stanley, and that he was co-operative.

When Mr. Stanley was called by defense to testify, Judge Patterson questioned whether he really wanted to testify or not. The judge mentioned the Constitutional provision that guaranteed his ability not to testify, but when Mr. Stanley asked the judge to cite the provision the judge refused.

Throughout the afternoon's proceedings lawyers, judges, and others who apparently worked within the judicial system were seen coming in and out of the courtroom for short periods of time.

Testimony was concluded in the afternoon. Judge Patterson then recessed the proceedings to reconvene in the morning for closing arguments.

More information concerning Rick's arrest and the trial can be found online at: http://www.stanley2002.org/denvsconstitution.htm .

Previous news releases about this trial can be found online at: http://www.stanley2002.org/releases.htm

Rick Stanley is the CEO and owner of Stanley Fasteners and Shop Supply in Denver, and is currently seeking the Libertarian Party of Colorado's nomination as Candidate for U.S. Senate 2002. The convention will be held this weekend in Leadville, Colorado.

For more information on Rick's campaign please visit his official web site at: http://www.stanley2002.org . Information about the Libertarian Party of Colorado can be found at: http://www.lpcolorado.org

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Rick is available for media interviews about his grassroots campaign for U.S. Senate. For more information please call Rick at 303.329.0481.



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; colorado; constitution; corruption; courts; guns; judge; jurytampering; libertarians; secondamendment; trial; ussenatecandidate
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To: sinkspur; LibertyRocks
To: LibertyRocks
"You obviously have never been on a jury or in a jury pool.
I was in a pool of 24 for a DUI case last June.
THREE police officers in that pool..."

# 45 by sinkspur

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I don't need to be on a jury or in a jury pool
to know that police officers are a part of our government.

They are not my "peers," and they are not "impartial."

Officers of the government are not qualified to be members of a jury.

464 posted on 05/16/2002 11:00:40 PM PDT by exodus
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To: sinkspur; Squantos
To: Squantos
"...if the judges instructions regarding the mention of the constitution are true..."

"...Asking jurors to interpret the Constitution is not what one is asked to do in a courtroom.
Jurors are asked to decide whether someone is guilty or not guilty of breaking THE LAW.
# 61 by sinkspur

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Jurors have the responsibility of interpreting the Constitution.
That's what jury nullification is all about.

Jurors are not required to blindly follow bad laws.

465 posted on 05/16/2002 11:09:36 PM PDT by exodus
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To: sinkspur; Zon
To: Zon
"...I don't want some hayseed from Penelope, Texas who can barely read
to decide on the Constitutionality of Laws.
That's the jurisdiction of courts.
# 68 by sinkspur

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The jury is an intrinsic part of our court system.

468 posted on 05/16/2002 11:20:45 PM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Agree , I know this first hand, I have done so as a member of a Jury.........really pissed off the Goobermint little-gators and the Judge ! Point is it was something we as jurors had to discover ourselves as it was alledgedly illegal for any of the pre-trial instructions to suggest such nullification.....

BTW great colors but real confusing :o)

Stay Safe !

470 posted on 05/16/2002 11:29:48 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Poohbah; LibertyRocks
To: LibertyRocks
"...most people cannot afford to go on jury duty. Government employees continue to receive their salary while on the jury. So those working in the private sector plead "financial hardship," while the government employees don't get that excuse..."
# 81 by Poohbah

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Poohbah, can you see the conflict of interest here?

Police made the arrest, as they do in most cases.
Their lives would be affected by their rulings while on a jury.

Any government employee, not just a policeman, has an inherent conflict because he knows what his employer wants, and he has sound reasons to give more weight to the prosecution's case. He lives and works with the people who represent the government, and has both financial and social reasons to find the defendent guilty.

472 posted on 05/16/2002 11:38:41 PM PDT by exodus
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To: Squantos
I'm willing to bet that you were not called to serve on a jury for second time. Fulfilling your duty as a juror is considered bad form by the folks who "choose" potential jurors.
473 posted on 05/16/2002 11:53:17 PM PDT by exodus
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To: ctdonath2
The 5th Amendment was incorporated to the states by SCOTUS.

The 5th Amendment guarantee of a grand jury in criminal prosecutions doesn't apply to the states.

The 7th Amendment was incorporated to the states by SCOTUS.

The right to a jury for a civil trial under the Seventh Amendment doesn't apply to the states.

475 posted on 05/17/2002 12:04:13 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: BillofRights
He sent to the press and to Jesse Ventura, a challenge to box him in public.

Stanley's quite the baffoon.

476 posted on 05/17/2002 12:06:48 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: chuknospam; William Terrell
To: William Terrell
"...this is a sickening but unfortunate part of the judicial process, yes the Constitution can be excluded.

You as a defendent & your attorney cannot read the law/statute as it is printed on the books to the jury, you cannot read or refer to the Constitution as it is written, you as a juror cannot go out and research the case and any associated laws or discover anything on your own.

The judge can tailor and restrict the testimony and instuctions to the jury in any manner they see fit, to how ever it serves their agenda or their supporter's agenda the best.

This is true in all courts.
It is digusting and revolting more so than any crime,
the justice system is a criminal entity within itself,
serving itself, to perpetuate itself.
# 62 by chuknospam

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Good post, chuknospam.
It's worth repeating.

The defendent isn't allowed to use established law to protect himself, but the government can decide which laws apply, and tell the jury to ignore all conflicting law.

477 posted on 05/17/2002 12:08:04 AM PDT by exodus
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To: BillofRights
We can read the words of the Second Amendment ("...shall not infringe...").

Ignorance of our history and the basics of federalism impedes understanding.

"To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws." -- John Adams

478 posted on 05/17/2002 12:09:39 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Zon
A juror becomes more impartial when he or she is informed that their job also entails judging the law in that case.

Begging the question.

479 posted on 05/17/2002 12:10:47 AM PDT by Roscoe
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