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Bill to give feds control of zoning kept private
Washington Times ^ | Friday, April 26, 2002 | By Audrey Hudson

Posted on 04/25/2002 11:26:34 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:53:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Senate Democrats yesterday barred the public from a committee meeting and vote on a land-use bill that opponents believe will impose federal standards on local zoning boards.

"This was no accident; this was a purposeful sham," said Mike Hardiman, spokesman for the American Land Rights Association, who lined up shortly after 8 a.m. to attend the 9:30 a.m. hearing in the Dirksen Senate Office Building. He said the senators were trying to pass an indefensible bill in secret.


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To: JohnHuang2
Interesting. Especially as I see nothing in the Constitution which grants either the federal government the right to govern land use or the Congress to legislate on such matters beyond accepting such land as was accepted to be the seat of the federal government. Even the eminent domain clause of the Sixth Amendment (the due process clause pretty much nails down for Congress its don't even think about it marching order) speaks singularly of taking private property for public use with compensation, which is something completely different from any sort of federal zoning power.

On the chance that this Congress is as stupid enough to pass and send this bill to the White House the way they did the campaign finance reform abomination, get the veto pen ready, Mr. President - if you've got the guts, not to mention the presence of mind to remind yourself that goddammit the oath of office we took does so enjoin us against writing or signing unconstitutional legislation...
81 posted on 04/26/2002 8:01:45 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: MissAmericanPie
too true, MissAmericanPie. This bill would be extremely dangerous to property rights
82 posted on 04/26/2002 8:33:47 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: joeyman
Don't worry, I'm sure Bush will veto it.

On the contrary. It's clearly unconstitutional, a sure sign that he will sign it.

83 posted on 04/27/2002 3:45:13 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: JohnHuang2
Can someone post the actual language of the bill?
84 posted on 04/27/2002 8:23:45 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Betty Jo
Is this "SON OF CARA"?

Community Character Act of 2001 (Introduced in the Senate)
S 975 IS
107th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 975

To improve environmental policy by providing assistance for State and tribal land use planning, to promote improved quality of life, regionalism, and sustainable economic development, and for other purposes.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

May 25, 2001

Mr. CHAFEE (for himself, Mr. BENNETT, Mr. JEFFORDS, Mr. LEVIN, Mr. SPECTER, Mr. BINGAMAN, Mr. CLELAND, and Mr. LIEBERMAN) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Environment and Public Works


A BILL

To improve environmental policy by providing assistance for State and tribal land use planning, to promote improved quality of life, regionalism, and sustainable economic development, and for other purposes.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

SEC. 4. GRANTS TO STATES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS TO UPDATE LAND USE PLANNING LEGISLATION.

SEC. 5. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.


85 posted on 04/27/2002 9:49:48 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Thank you very much for posting the actual bill!

I gave it a quick read, and now I am going to google it.

Perhaps there is already in existence such a law.

If so, how does this one refine it?

It does not show though that it is repealing any law.

I notice a lot of MAY not shall or must.

I see the amounts of $$$$$ that may be granted.

I'll be back!

86 posted on 04/27/2002 12:01:11 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for posting this, JohnHuang2!
87 posted on 04/27/2002 12:02:34 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: JohnHuang2;madfly;auntb
Well, right off I found that it was first introduced in 2200 !

A press release from Sen .Carl Levin says it is to prevent "Urban Sprawl".

88 posted on 04/27/2002 12:15:08 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: LORDLOBO;madfly;JohnHuang2;AuntB
Its not a mandate.

States may choose to apply for a grant of $$$$$$.

The 2000 version never came up for a vote because it was introduced too late in the session.

89 posted on 04/27/2002 12:22:01 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: joeyman
$1,000 says he won't. Instead he'll use non-offensive language, so as not to upset the Democratic voters who won't vote for him anyway while lightly condmening this bill before he signs it.
90 posted on 04/27/2002 12:35:36 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: MissAmericanPie
Implementation of this crap comes under the name "Smart Growth" or similar. It is also a perpetual-income bill for civil engineering firms, by the way.

It is heavily favored by most big-city mayors (and RINO little-city mayors) because it will give them the old "Federal Money" excuse for zoning OUT anything that does not produce big tax dollars.

Another 'use' for this garbage has been 'model communities'--suburban developments featuring 'town square' models,with small grocery/hardware/pharmacies within walking distance of condo, apartment, and single-family homes.

Good thing they are within walking distance, as the roads built are too small for two lanes of traffic and parking on each side of the road.

Given that larger stores have better prices, the store operators generally go out of business quickly. Then you have abandoned stores and a NEED to drive. Then they rip up the roads and re-do them to make them wider, out of necessity.

City of Milwaukee tried this on a particular commercial street. Ten years later, they ripped it all out to widen the street again, after most merchants had gone banko.

Wonderful way to screw EVERYBODY...

91 posted on 04/27/2002 12:43:35 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: TN Republican
Tenth Amendment? We don't NEED your stinking 10th Amendment!!

If you REALLY want to pull out your hair, read the latest Heritage Foundation report on 'Pork Spending' (reprinted recently in Human Events.) Sorry, I can't provide a link.

Features $250K for tattoo-removal program in california, $250K for programs to eradicate 'Goth' culture from St. Louis suburb, $2MM statue of 'Vulcan' for Alabama, etc.

The REPUBLICAN chairman of House Pig-Spender Committee (California rep.) told White House Budget guy (Daniels) to stick his objections where the sun never shines...

So much for you, turkey taxpayer.

92 posted on 04/27/2002 12:49:54 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: ninenot
Yup. Phoenix, as of March 12th this year, is now going to be divided into 14 one-stop-shopping-services villages.

Makes me wonder if they will catch you on camera leaving your area without a pass or a note from the village commander.

1984

93 posted on 04/27/2002 12:51:44 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Time to adopt the old Up North Wisconsin watchword: "Shoot, shovel, and shut up."

What!!! ME eliminate some poor defenseless 'endangered species?' Where? When?

I didn't do it; nobody saw me do it; you can't prove anything. (Bart Simpson)

94 posted on 04/27/2002 12:53:29 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: Chuckster
You may have a point there. A well fed slave is a happy servant, I guess. But one can always hope.
95 posted on 04/27/2002 3:43:41 PM PDT by dixierat22
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To: twigs
I sat in a college class with a guest speaker several ago, the local state Senator. He said that PA had among the strictest property rights of all the states and he believed the state needed to call a constitutional convention to change that, that property needed to be subject to more environmental concerns. Couldn't believe my ears. And he was a Republican. A sad day!

Please name him.

Thanks, from a fellow PA resident.

96 posted on 04/27/2002 7:38:24 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining
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To: JohnHuang2;Lazarus Long
Please note: The Feds have no power to legislate within the borders of the 50 states. That should make some of you start examining the tax laws since they cannot possibly compell citizens within the 50 states to pay a tax on an equal exchange. (Wages are not income).

Be that as it may, this is always the way the Congress gets around it's constitutional restrictions. So, we will all have to be vigilant in approaching our local governments and ousting those that go along if this can't be stopped at the Congressional level.

97 posted on 04/28/2002 12:07:14 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: dixierat22
We no longer have a Republic

True. And a significant portion of the people have no clue why that matters...which is even more problematic.

98 posted on 04/28/2002 12:14:52 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: neutrino
You got to be kidding! About half of the country appears to me to be scared sh**less.

Well, no, I'm not. They may well say they're scared; but their buying patterns and behavior patterns have not been greatly modified. True, air travel is down - but is that due to fear, or not caring for the degradation of getting through security?

Where I live, it is an unusual weekend that someone isn't shot in a bar. It's broadcast on the evening news. But do people stop going to bars? Hardly!

And then there are the street racers. Generally, several people are hurt or killed weekly. And does it stop? No.

So if a bomb goes off and kills a score of people, we may see reduced mall shopping - instead, catalog shopping will increase. If a restaurant is the target, home entertaining may increase. It's all a matter of getting conditioned to it; and I note that the CIA is already doing that with their assurances that no matter what we do, it is a matter of "when, not if, another attack occurs."

All IMHO, of course...

99 posted on 04/28/2002 12:21:06 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: neutrino
. True, air travel is down - but is that due to fear, or not caring for the degradation of getting through security?

The recession has a lot to do with it. Second cause is probably 'air security' crap. Given a reasonable travel schedule, I would rather drive than fly. Going through airports is becoming a joke--although with 4 long-distance flights on my record since 9/11, I have yet to be subjected to a 'thorough' search.

100 posted on 04/28/2002 12:28:35 PM PDT by ninenot
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