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Virginia FReepers! - Time to give John RINO Warner the Heave HO!
3/21/2002 | P8riot

Posted on 03/21/2002 4:39:53 PM PST by P8riot

Virginia Freepers - John RINO Warner has oversytayed his welcome! He has turned his back on the people of Virginia, and the United States. His betrayal of his oath to uphold the Constitution, by virtue of his vote in favor of the McCain-Feingold bill, has confirmed what alot of us already knew concerning his liberal leanings.

Fellow Virginians, now is the time to deal a blow for freedom in this Commonwealth, and the country as a whole. The United States, and the people of Virginia deserve someone who will look after their welfare, and their Constitutional Rights. Today let us begin the search for the man or woman of the highest character, who will hold to the highest ideals, and who will stand in the gap for all Virginians. Let us elect someone who will treat the Constitution with the highest respect, and will not compromise their beliefs based on political expedience, someone who will fight for the freedoms that we all hold so dear.

This great nation began in our Commonwealth. The lamp of freedom was kindled almost exactly two hundred sevenety seven years ago by no less a Virginian than Patrick Henry, the first governor of our free commonwealth, when he said:

"If we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight!"

Our nation's struggle began here, and it ended here at Yorktown in 1781.Today we are engaged in another struggle, the struggle to preserve the freedoms for which so many of our countrymen gave their lives. This struggle may not be with the use of arms, but it is a war nevertheless. The struggle is against a philosophy that threatens the very fabric of our wills. Our heritage compels us to action, and our freedoms and livelyhoods demand it.

Let us go forward now, and deliver a message to John Warner that we hold him responsible for the errosion of freedoms in our land. Indeed, we are the only ones this side of judgement that can do this. Those in other states who are likewise disposessed must also do the same in regard to their representatives. Let us select such a person as will be the true representative of the people of our great Commonwealth. Let the search begin now. Contact the representatives, or other individuals, that you trust will uphold the highest ideals of our great Republic. Leave no stone unturned. We must not hold our peace now, or we will forced to do so forever.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cfr; constitution; senate; virginia; warner
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To: cva66snipe
Get back to your greasy machinery spaces, snipe! Warner isn't responsible for the security of a naval base, the commander of the base is! (at least ever since the 1834 edition of U.S. Naval Regulations were written).
141 posted on 03/22/2002 11:52:54 AM PST by meandog
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To: meandog
Get back to your greasy machinery spaces, snipe! Warner isn't responsible for the security of a naval base, the commander of the base is!

Warner is responsible for funding of such. Defense cuts under his tenure have lessened that ability as they are being like every other branch over deployed. I understand what you are saying. But Warner was in a position to say no to those cuts. The GOP is by no means innocent in it's co-support of defunding the military to a dangerous level. We had rent-a-cops at NOB 76-80 but the entrance gates and piers had U.S. Marines. Even Tidewater transit buses were checked for military ID's before entry. You did not approach D&S or the other piers in small craft. The base commander can not deploy or use people he does not have. As well the CVN's sitting their no longer have MARDET's either.

142 posted on 03/22/2002 12:05:13 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: P8riot
We need to get out there and find a better candidate than Warner.

What do you think of Morgan Griffith? I saw him in a committee meeting last year & I was impressed - an armorer was testifying that some Hampton Roads DSS was rejecting gun owners as foster parents, and Griffith diverged from his original questioning, asked "Are you telling me, that the DSS is refusing to allow people who are exercising their Constitutional rights to be foster parents?" And he took out his pen, & he started to write.

From the look on his face, I wouldn't want to be one of the people at the DSS.

143 posted on 03/22/2002 12:18:13 PM PST by nina0113
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To: TBP; flicker; goodell70
He's an accidental Senator anyway.

I alluded to the plane accident in my post 125. Goodell70, a member of this forum, has done some extensive research in this accident and has drawn some interesting conclusions. Pinging Goodell70.

144 posted on 03/22/2002 12:26:46 PM PST by sultan88
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To: cva66snipe
Warner is responsible for funding of such. Defense cuts under his tenure have lessened that ability as they are being like every other branch over deployed. I understand what you are saying. But Warner was in a position to say no to those cuts. The GOP is by no means innocent in it's co-support of defunding the military to a dangerous level. We had rent-a-cops at NOB 76-80 but the entrance gates and piers had U.S. Marines. Even Tidewater transit buses were checked for military ID's before entry. You did not approach D&S or the other piers in small craft. The base commander can not deploy or use people he does not have. As well the CVN's sitting their no longer have MARDET's either.

...come about to course one-eight-zero, there shipmate! I can understand your frustration over funding but Warner has about as much control over military funding as a midshipman does over an air launch. You're correct that Congress (all 100 senators and 234 representatives) in Article 1, Section 8-13 is charged "to provide and maintain a navy" and while it is true that powerful legislators have a lot of input clout the legislative branch doesn't submit the budget; the executive branch does; IOW the president is the budget maker, Congress the spenders!

145 posted on 03/22/2002 12:46:29 PM PST by meandog
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To: Alissa
I agree - conservatives are self-destructive

Nope--Republicans are killing the conservatives. Conservatives are generally principled, republicans are not.
We have to stop mixing up a philosophy with a political party

We need to go after the African-Americans, who I believe are basically conservative in their guts

True, but good luck overcoming the gubmint handouts, ergo it will never happen.

146 posted on 03/22/2002 12:54:15 PM PST by VMI70
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To: meandog
You're correct that Congress (all 100 senators and 234 representatives) in Article 1, Section 8-13 is charged "to provide and maintain a navy" and while it is true that powerful legislators have a lot of input clout the legislative branch doesn't submit the budget; the executive branch does; IOW the president is the budget maker, Congress the spenders!

Which points to our continuing military shortages and problems starting in or around 1989. Since that time all branches have been over extended and underfunded more so than even in Carters years.

The most recent example is the KENNEDY and that was by no means a first either. A carrier one digit her junior suffered the same fate. The very first thing Rumsfield should have called for was a readiness and fitness status report. The Clinton term was sufficent cause to warrant that. It seems the KENNEDY innicident caught Rummy off guard. Some flag should have been taken to task over this as well. Instead a Captain was relieved. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been but they fail to make the point Kennedy was a reserve ship up till close to the end of Clintons term. It would have likely taken a substancial yard period to bring her up to par.

These are issues that both Bush Sr/ Cheney & Clinton either ignored or further neglected as well to address. It seems G.W. Bush was gonna do the same till 9/11 caught up with us and we got in a bind. But as well look at the dates involved here. This article was about residue from the Bush 1 & S.O.D. Cheney tenure. A ship in mid 1993 not sea worthy by the word of a senior enlisted? Long standing problems were uncorrected leading to a near collaspe of the ship. Notice as well who this seems to be addressing. The first name mentioned is? Why let the conditions described in this article happen yet again? Have a read here see for yourself. Go to the paragraph titled "below decks".

Click here to get to the link

I believe the contents of the article to be accurate. If the ship had but two generators then it had no electronics such as radar. Electronics are chiller dependent. Two generators would not be sufficent power to put any of it's 10 chill water air-conditioning plants on line. We can't keep making the same mistakes over and over. Especially when it's the same ones allowing it to take place.

147 posted on 03/22/2002 1:42:57 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: toenail
I've met him. If you're OK with open borders, I guess you can throw your vote away on him. I'd much sooner vote for Warner.
148 posted on 03/22/2002 1:47:52 PM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: meandog
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Benedict Arnold.
149 posted on 03/22/2002 2:01:26 PM PST by putupon
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To: BlackElk
Whoa...

(clap, clap, clap)

Well done!

150 posted on 03/22/2002 3:24:11 PM PST by Doohickey
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To: P8riot
Thanks for the post, P8riot. I've sent a scathing letter to Warner through his website. I don't honestly expect a response, but I hope that it's perfectly clear to him why he will be seeking unemployment very soon....

:) ttt

151 posted on 03/28/2002 5:57:41 AM PST by detsaoT
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