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Explorers Unearth Lost Inca Stronghold in Peru
Reuters ^ | Mon Mar 18, 6:12 PM ET | Missy Ryan

Posted on 03/18/2002 9:15:42 PM PST by d4now

LIMA, Peru (Reuters) - In the first major Inca find in four decades, Peruvian and British explorers say they have discovered a hidden city, perched on an Andean hilltop, that may have sheltered stalwarts of South America's legendary empire as they made a last stand against Spanish conquerors.

Located on a narrow ridge around 11,000 feet up in Peru's windswept, southern Andes, the Inca citadel of Corihuayrachina is a mysterious gathering of religious platforms, funeral towers, and food storehouses.

British scholar and guide Peter Frost told a news conference on Monday he first spotted the ruins in the rugged, isolated Vilcabamba region some 300 miles south-east of Lima three years ago.

Frost said the site was the biggest of its kind found since 1964 and could have been occupied by the Inca when they took to the hills after the Spanish conquest. It is about 22 miles southwest of the famous Inca citadel of Machu Picchu.

The Incas once ruled a vast swath of South America stretching from Colombia to Chile, but Spain's Francisco Pizarro and his band of 160 treasure-hunters, using cannons and horses, brought that empire to a bloody end in 1533.

Some Inca, moving with an army of 50,000 to the more remote Vilcabamba area, held out against the invaders for nearly 40 years.

"It's a jigsaw puzzle. What we're finding are more pieces ... to get a better sense of what was happening in that area," said Frost, who has lived for 30 years in the Inca's imperial capital Cusco in southern Peru, gateway to Machu Picchu.

European diseases like measles ravaged the empire, cutting its population from an estimated 32 million people in 1520 to 5 million in 1548.

Frost said he found Corihuayrachina -- eyeing it from afar but not able to actually reach it -- when he was leading a group of tourists through the remote region in 1999.

Funded by the Washington-based National Geographic (news - web sites) Society, Frost was finally able to set foot on the cloud-shrouded site two years later in June, 2001, trekking four days along winding mountain paths with a team of scientists and excavators.

UNTOUCHED BY SCIENCE

"This was an area totally untouched by science," said Peruvian archeologist and expedition co-leader Alfredo Valencia, who along with local workers hacked away at the thick leaves and vines covering squat buildings and murky tombs.

But Frost said the scientists were still in the early stages of puzzling out who inhabited Corihuayrachina, how they lived, and why they chose to live in such an inhospitable place.

"If (the site) was occupied after the Spanish conquest, what will we find? If we find human remains, will they show European diseases?" Frost said.

Like most of the scores of native shrines, tombs and temples across this Andean nation, the explorers said the site had been looted over the years by local grave-robbers and now the graves were only filled with pottery fragments and bones.

But unlike Machu Picchu, discovered in 1911 by American explorer Hiram Bingham, Frost said the recent find was not home to the Inca elite.

Machu Picchu has been named a United Nations (news - web sites) World Heritage site and draws throngs of tourists from across the globe.

Unlike Machu Picchu, only stone foundations some 2-3 feet high remain of the new find's structures, which were originally constructed with adobe or wood.

National Geographic is due to release a television special chronicling the Corihuayrachina discovery (news - web sites) in May.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: archaeology; chachapoyas; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; incas; machupicchu; peru
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To: ikka
I don't know but post #19 may help.
21 posted on 03/18/2002 10:33:34 PM PST by d4now
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To: d4now
Last year a documentary special aired concerning Inca Astronomical observance.
I was staggered by what was revealed..
On the mountain sides, tracking for dozens of miles...the terraces and rock outcroppings were manipulated to reveal a 3 dimensional map.."Of the Milky way"...they did in 3D..what the Egyptians could not do.
In certain places..sunlight touches certain rock outcroppings...litterly marking each months passage..each solstice...revealing the procession of the "Zodiac" on the mountain sides.
These manipulations are huge...hundreds of feet apart..evident from the ground..and from high elevations... they would climb..and watch the seasons unfold..knowing exactly when to plant..and when to obseve ritual festivals...but in this..and confirmed by the narrator..like the Spanish Friars account..they foresaw..and saw..the end of "Their time"...this is why the Spanish mastered them so quickly..they really believed their time on earth had come to an end...they saw it in the stars.
22 posted on 03/18/2002 10:43:35 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
Last year a documentary special aired concerning Inca Astronomical observance.

I must see it. Any help would be appreciated.

23 posted on 03/18/2002 10:52:54 PM PST by d4now
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Should this go on the 3g list?"

Yes. Do it to it! (thanks)

24 posted on 03/18/2002 11:11:43 PM PST by blam
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To: d4now
I did record it..hopefully I did not overwrite it..have nearly 50 Plain VHS...will try to find it ..and if found..will forward the name of the video production and the main individual...hopeing I have not overwritten it..am really bad for.."Oh my God..its a nascar race from Darlington"..and then the inevitable happens.
25 posted on 03/18/2002 11:18:03 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: d4now
Ancient Peruvian City In Dire Peril
26 posted on 03/18/2002 11:34:24 PM PST by blam
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To: Light Speed
Happy searching then - I hope you find it.

Thanks!

27 posted on 03/19/2002 5:38:44 AM PST by d4now
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To: blam
Good article - many thanks for the bump.
28 posted on 03/19/2002 5:39:32 AM PST by d4now
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To: #3fan
bump
29 posted on 03/19/2002 5:49:12 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Light Speed
It's amazing to me that so many ancient cultures which were completely detached from one another all had an intimate understanding of space and time.
30 posted on 03/19/2002 5:58:19 AM PST by DancesWithTrout
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To: DancesWithTrout
"It's amazing to me that so many ancient cultures which were completely detached from one another all had an intimate understanding of space and time."

I don't think they were as 'detached' as we believe they were.

31 posted on 03/19/2002 6:16:04 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
exactly my conclusion. Explaining how, without alarming the tin-foil brigades, is the hard part.
32 posted on 03/19/2002 6:19:18 AM PST by DancesWithTrout
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To: d4now
bump
33 posted on 03/19/2002 6:33:00 AM PST by VOA
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To: gnarledmaw
Thanks for the ping. Most of the great buildings, walls, astronomical structures, and towers that are attributed to the Incas were probably built by a people like the Chachapoya, (a blond-haired, tall race) thousands of years ago.
34 posted on 03/19/2002 11:21:19 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: DancesWithTrout
The North American Indians mapped the constellations....solar house risings..moon phases...kept it simple..they used rock circles..and etched markers on rock outcroppings.

They did this..thousands of years ahead of the Egyptians ...choosing a more "Freindlier version" of passing the knowledge...one may comment..they were more succesfull than the Egyptians..as their languages and stories are still sung and danced to ..to this day...and we are aware that the Egyptian language went nearly extinct..that the message in their labour..has only been discovered..recently.

Critical study reveals man has learned this in seperate hemispheres..independently...some like to credit an advanced culture for spreading the news so to speak..but real archeology..reveals they got it on their own.

35 posted on 03/19/2002 3:45:39 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
Critical study reveals man has learned this in seperate hemispheres..independently...some like to credit an advanced culture for spreading the news so to speak..but real archeology..reveals they got it on their own.

The basic needs of humans never change. What is it worth to you to know exactly when to plow, sow and reap your crop so you may have a successful harvest? 10%, maybe? And from there all the rest flows naturally.

a. cricket

36 posted on 03/19/2002 3:55:23 PM PST by another cricket
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To: Light Speed;d4now;DancesWithTrout;#3fan
"Critical study reveals man has learned this in seperate hemispheres..independently...some like to credit an advanced culture for spreading the news so to speak..but real archeology..reveals they got it on their own."

I read that some time after the destruction of Carthage that it was reported that Plutarch spoke that he had read (from 'writings' in the ruins) that the Carthagenians(sp) had traded with nations across the Atlantic. Then we have the 'cocaine mummies' and of course, Solon's tales of Atlantis, as related to him by the Egyptian high priests, etc. I believe there was ancient contact between Asia, Europe, the Americas and Africa. ...and that this contact was broken numerous times (and memory of this contact was forgotten) due to worldwide catastrophies, famine and/or plagues. This is/could be why we have 'exiled' populations of humans of different races all over the globe.

37 posted on 03/19/2002 4:03:40 PM PST by blam
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To: #3Fan
"were probably built by a people like the Chachapoya."

I went looking for information on these folks the last time you mentioned them and found a little. Can you lead me to some detailed information about them? Thanks ahead of time.

38 posted on 03/19/2002 5:10:47 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Try this website

Warriors of the Clouds: A Lost Civilization in the Upper Amazon of Peru

And I thing you might find some more stuff or either the History channel or Discovery Channel web site. One of them had a special on the Mummies of the Chachapoyas but I can't remember who.

a. cricket

39 posted on 03/19/2002 5:53:14 PM PST by another cricket
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To: another cricket
Thanks for the link to other links.
40 posted on 03/19/2002 7:29:01 PM PST by blam
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