I'd only disagree that RINOs need to be confronted and opposed in all venues.
Posted on 03/17/2002 6:14:26 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
I've heard talk everywhere about RINOS, amnesty, CFR, and the like. Here's the question. What are we going to do about it.
I finally as of Jeffords defection, learned it was a two party system. Period. I also learned that there is still enough difference AT THE LEADERSHIP level between the democraps and GOP to make a difference. It's the COMMITTEES and JUDGES that count.
I votes third party in one major race in 2000. I voted against Spence Abraham since I have no use for liars. I regret that now. Spence sucked, but he is better than Debbie Stabusall, and because of Stab, Cantwell, Jeffords, Carnahan, Corzine, and Hitlery, we have Tom Dasshole, Ted Kennedy, Chuck Scumer, and the trial lawyer ultra leftist arrogant jackass John Edwards. I am also glad I voted for W. He's not God. He's not even a great president with the Patriot Act. However, he has done SOME good that can't be discounted. He turned his back on Kyoto. He let generals run the war. He told the UN gun grabbers to pound sand. Alwhore would not have done that. He was the best we got in 2000 since Keyes didn't win the primary. Ashcroft isn't my favorite right now either, but at least he's solid on the 2nd amendment. I'd hate to see Eric Holder in there.
If we don't want the dems to win, what the hell do we do about the RINOs? The Fred Uptons. The John McStains(The exception where I'd vote dem). The John Warners. Mike DeWines. What do we do about them? It's a long term committment to clear the GOP of these RINOs.
1. If you are not a member of the county GOP, then you aren't stopping these RINOS from getting started. Please join your local GOP. That's where it starts. Don't take out your anger on Mike DeWine on your local level. They aren't DeWine. Most of them are more likely more conservative than the John Warners out there.
2. Support local conservative reps for office. Open seats are the best bet. I'm backing a solid conservative in a state rep seat. State Reps become the next congressmen.
3. Primary RINOs out of office. Dale Shugars is primarying Fred Upton. MCRGO is backing Shugars. He can win too.
It starts local. If the RINOs don't win the county commish, City council, mayors, prosecutor, or sheriff seats, they can't win higher election. If I know that the drain commissioner is Anti-Self Defense, I don't vote for that person. Today's drain commish, city council, mayor, etc is tomorrows state rep in Lansing. The state reps become congressmen, senators, state attorney generals, and governors. Today's governor is tomorrows president.
I want to get rid of the RINOs. Is turning on the party going to do it. Nope. It gives the RINOs more power. Is primarying them out going to do it. It gives us a shot. Is making sure that RINO's lose local office going to do it...absolutely.
Let's build a solid conservative farm club out there, so we are strong in the big leagues. We need to develop talent, and all of us are capable of brining our ideas to the party. If they don't listen....keep yapping and primarying them until they do listen.
Good luck to Dale Shugars. It's time to send Upton back to St Joe's. There could be another primary soon against another GOP RINO gun grabber. Stay tuned. I'll announce it when it's official.
The country club boys have a lock on it, and it would be easier to build a new party from the ground up than to tear down the Republican establishment that would fight you tooth and nail. You would have to rebuild the GOP on a pile of ashes after you got them out.
I campaigned for W, but are you aware that a Bush or a Dole has been on EVERY republican Presidential ticket since 1976? I find that astounding evidence that it is a big insiders club. True conservatives are independent thinks and will never make the inside of this club.
Sure, keep working for conservative Republicans every chance you get. Work hard for W in 2004. They will hold the line somewhat until we can build up the Constitution party.
We have six years to get a viable Constitition party going in every state. The next GOP presidential candidate will be much more liberal than W and we will truly have no choice otherwise.
http://www.constitutionparty.com
The country club boys have a lock on it, and it would be easier to build a new party from the ground up than to tear down the Republican establishment that would fight you tooth and nail. You would have to rebuild the GOP on a pile of ashes after you got them out.
I disagree. The country clubbers are NOTHING without our votes. On the same note we need enough of the country club support to win as well. It's an uneasy coalition for the most part, but without one or the other, the DEMS win. That's why Brett Schundler lost in Jersey, and rino Susan Munsell lost by 19 points in Mid-Michigan in 98(while conservative Mike Rogers won the seat in 2000).
I campaigned for W, but are you aware that a Bush or a Dole has been on EVERY republican Presidential ticket since 1976? I find that astounding evidence that it is a big insiders club. True conservatives are independent thinks and will never make the inside of this club.
Time to bust those doors open then. Reagan got in.
I am irate at Teeny Tom Dasshole, Leaky Leahy, and others of this ilk for their lynching of good judicial nominations. A protest vote for a miniscule third party at this juncture seems to me to be throwing away any chance for causing the ship of state to move to the right.
I'd only disagree that RINOs need to be confronted and opposed in all venues.
I never would have voted for Stab. I was stuck with her as a congresscritter for 4 years.
A: Convince the Chinese RINOs are aphrodisiacs; They'll be hunted to extinction.
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Today our immigrants quickly learn about all the goodies available to them. I see it every day at the grocery store. Smartly dressed young women towing three little ones and handing over food stamps to the clerks. My husband and I decided to stop at two kids as we knew we could only afford to feed, clothe, educate, etc that many! I always said when the Pope bought the groceries, I would think about having more kids.
No thanks.
You can save your response to me about this. I'm only reporting his experience. There is one thing that you can help me with though. The Libertarian Party is reputed to be in favor of opening up our borders completely. No Border Patrol. Would you care to see if that's true or not? Thanks.
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