[Dan from Michigan]

ONWARD!!!!

[The Shootist]

My advise to you is to join the Libertarian Party.

Libertarian Party homepage

[Ahban]

It is too late Dan. YOU are the RINO. The Republicna party no longer supports conservative social ideas with anything but lip service. It is you (and I) who would not be counted as real Republicans.

The country club boys have a lock on it, and it would be easier to build a new party from the ground up than to tear down the Republican establishment that would fight you tooth and nail. You would have to rebuild the GOP on a pile of ashes after you got them out.

I campaigned for W, but are you aware that a Bush or a Dole has been on EVERY republican Presidential ticket since 1976? I find that astounding evidence that it is a big insiders club. True conservatives are independent thinks and will never make the inside of this club.

Sure, keep working for conservative Republicans every chance you get. Work hard for W in 2004. They will hold the line somewhat until we can build up the Constitution party.

We have six years to get a viable Constitition party going in every state. The next GOP presidential candidate will be much more liberal than W and we will truly have no choice otherwise.

http://www.constitutionparty.com

[Jethro Tull]

God help us....

[Ole Okie]

Dan, let me commend you for a realistic attitude about politics.

I am irate at Teeny Tom Dasshole, Leaky Leahy, and others of this ilk for their lynching of good judicial nominations. A protest vote for a miniscule third party at this juncture seems to me to be throwing away any chance for causing the ship of state to move to the right.

[Registered]

I voted against Spence Abraham since I have no use for liars.

Regret? That simply boggles the mind. Deb Stabenow?

[Consort]

Again, in the political circus, the Big Tent includes RINOs and other political animals. The other party has their Blue Dogs in addition to jackasses, mules, and Donkeys.

[Sabertooth]

A very pingworthy post.

I'd only disagree that RINOs need to be confronted and opposed in all venues.

[Uncle Miltie]

Q: "Too many RINOs....what are we going to do?????"

A: Convince the Chinese RINOs are aphrodisiacs; They'll be hunted to extinction.
<\lame humor>

[tubebender]

There is a thread elsewere about one issue voters. If 500 Bush voters in Fla had not voted for him on some single issue we would be in one hell of spot right now. OTH Calif will be an interesting study in 10 months..

[Torie]

MIght work some places. In others, if true blue conservatives are nominated, particularly if they are perceived as social conservatives, it is a forumla for electoral disaster, at least for federal offices. And if you get the two wings, or three wings, or the party at each other's throats, and with hard feelings about each other, that is a formula for failure as well in many places. Each wing needs to get their share. That is how I see it.

[rrr51]

Your heart is in the right place. Unfortunately, it is over, probably has been for years. Keep trying, but be realistic. Try to enjoy life and don't let this consume you.

[BellStar]

"Let's build a solid conservative farm club out there, so we are strong in the big leagues."

When George Bush was my Governor before he became
our President he had that example on his website to explain that
the Party was like a Baseball team in the children's section.

Great Minds think alike Dan from Michigan

[ishmac]

It's the COMMITTEES and JUDGES that count.

Here here!!! People forget that last Nov. we weren't only electing a Chief Exec; we were electing a judiciary and a Fed Gov beauracracy. BTW, the libs and socialists never forget this. As I recall they were the only ones to mention judicial appointments during the campaign (and they stick to their guns, as the Pickering "veto" proves). They may scream bloody murder over passage of welfare reform, but they would never vote against Bubba because of it.

Of course philosophy is always involved in politics, but when it comes to pulling the lever, the art of practical reason (and if need be, "nose-holding") is paramount.

Of course, there would be less nose-holding if we could get our guys in at the local level--I totally agree with you there. We could also use a conservative "counter march" through the institutions.

[Long Cut]

Your post is the best I've read on this topic, and it's also refreshing to read actual SOLUTIONS put forth, rather than a simple rant. Those solutions, by the way, are also noteworthy in that they'd probably work.

You have it right about the little races, too. Look at Florida in '00. We found out graphically why the Dims fight like tigers over "unimportant" local elections-those "Assistant County Whatevers" may be the ones counting votes someday, and appointing their buds to other jobs as well. This is where the party apparatus comes in, especially in a crisis situation. Remember old Carol Roberts of Palm Beach fame? Remember how much of a nuisance she made herself for the Dims? Prior to that election, no one ever heard of her or cared what party she belonged too. Oh, and she may run for Congress, either state or Federal. The Dims reward good commissars.

Voting Libertarian or Constitution won't help anything, sorry guys, but that's the truth. The list of what third party voting actually leads to is both long and ugly. Cantwell, Stabenow, Bubba(x2!), this is NOT progress to Constitutional ideals, fellas.

Dan makes many good points. Today's town councilor might be next week's Senator or President. The traffic court judge might someday be one of the Brethren. This is where to start, and where to make a difference, instead of crying AFTER the fact.

[Sci Fi Guy]

Great article. I'm encouraged to see that you are running to battle, instead of running away.

You are right to encourage conservatives to get involved with the party organization. I don't think that Rinos in Congress are the problem. The problem is that party establishment. Washington, inside the beltway, we know better than you, attitude that's the problem. We need people who realize that the conservative message can be very attractive.

The reason why minoritys vote democratic in such large numbers is because the Repubs in power think that you have to act like a liberal demo to get their vote. I remember last election the "republican outreach" to minorities included a radio ad which apologized for republican past actions. What @#$%#@@$! Instead of accepting and pandering to rat lies. Republicans should champion their history as defenders of human rights. And explain how the conservative agenda will help the poor. It's the Democrats who should apologize.

[ambrose]

I also learned that there is still enough difference AT THE LEADERSHIP level between the democraps and GOP to make a difference.

Yeah... don't you just miss that inspiring leadership of Trent Lott when he was Majority Leader?

[ppaul]

Please join your local GOP. That's where it starts.

Yep.
And in a lotta places, where you have eternal DeomcRAT candidates holding offfice, a conservative Republican doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Period.
That is why the GOP fields these RINOs. They think, "Well, at least this guy (or gal) might have a chance against thes demos.
Well, they don't, but that's why it happens, I think.
And, once in a while, they win, and that's how we end up with them.

[goldstategop]

Time to go RINO hunting. We bagged one in CA. Keep up the good work Freepers!!! :)

[Ubonic]

I've heard talk everywhere about RINOS, amnesty, CFR, and the like. Here's the question. What are we going to do about it.

Two words: Elect Nader.

[Steve0113]

It starts local. If the RINOs don't win the county commish, City council, mayors, prosecutor, or sheriff seats, they can't win higher election.

Tell that to the Hildebeast.